Rock band games e.g guitar hero and all that jazz tend not to use original material except for in special circumstances - bonus levels and the like.
You can put your own stuff in and it'll separate the tracks but even then it's only 4/5 basics - vocals/bass/guitar and so on.
More to the point - a fair few people think the release of multitracks'd be a god thing - we're not all nerds, ya know!
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It's not nerdy to be curious about what makes a track what it is. BoRhap is a curiosity and that leaked multi on the web let people delve into what made it such a wonderful piece of work. The enthusiast, like myself, is curious about those tracks in other ways, too.
Adam.
Adam.
ESPECIALLY considering the sort of commercial decisions being made currently regarding the singles boxset, there is ZERO market in comparison for commercially available multi-tracks, and if they wont be making money, they wont be releasing them.
Sad truth.
The multi-tracks which leaked were wonderful and interesting, but they shouldnt have been available, and if were honest its only a handful of people who really care for them in the grand scheme of things.
So yeah, no market for them, and the sampling thing is also a real issue.
If the young people of the world need to know what good music sounds like then Queen's hits are available in about a million formats, with the million and 1st format due later this year!
Sad truth.
The multi-tracks which leaked were wonderful and interesting, but they shouldnt have been available, and if were honest its only a handful of people who really care for them in the grand scheme of things.
So yeah, no market for them, and the sampling thing is also a real issue.
If the young people of the world need to know what good music sounds like then Queen's hits are available in about a million formats, with the million and 1st format due later this year!
it's just so. frustrating! short of breaking in somewhere and stealing them there's not much we can do. and i don't even know where they're kept.
Imagine the vocal tracks for somebody to love though!!!
Imagine the vocal tracks for somebody to love though!!!
Here's an idea..!
What if...the copies that are made of the album tracks (in completed form) at the studio could be used in a special presentation. A tour of a particular place where people could be invited 2-3 times a week to hear a selection of tracks on a paid tour. Yes...paid tour.
In other words, fans could get the chance to hear these tracks in their most basic form. Safe and profitable while letting fans hear their most favoured bands' work. I would pay for that privilege.
It's a thought...
Adam.
What if...the copies that are made of the album tracks (in completed form) at the studio could be used in a special presentation. A tour of a particular place where people could be invited 2-3 times a week to hear a selection of tracks on a paid tour. Yes...paid tour.
In other words, fans could get the chance to hear these tracks in their most basic form. Safe and profitable while letting fans hear their most favoured bands' work. I would pay for that privilege.
It's a thought...
Adam.
wouldn't work. the bo rhap tapes alone are over 2 hours long...Good idea though! I''d pay too
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haha
It's quite unbelieveable..
The only reason this thread exists is because we have some multitracks that have leaked, and it's not enough for some people :P
How many other bands release multitracks of their work?
Pretty much none of them.. bet you that most of them have been leaked without artist approval.
I don't like that, of course... I wouldn't mind throwing multitracks around if I were ever in the position that people actually wanted to hear me (!).
And a few years back, some band released a few of their songs as Garageband files. Could've just been a shallow Apple advertisement but the point is that they were nice enough to do it.
The only reason this thread exists is because we have some multitracks that have leaked, and it's not enough for some people :P
How many other bands release multitracks of their work?
Pretty much none of them.. bet you that most of them have been leaked without artist approval.
I don't like that, of course... I wouldn't mind throwing multitracks around if I were ever in the position that people actually wanted to hear me (!).
And a few years back, some band released a few of their songs as Garageband files. Could've just been a shallow Apple advertisement but the point is that they were nice enough to do it.
Course it's a bit hopeful.
If anyone wants to hear my bands multi tracks then they can feel free - 2 rhythm guitar tracks, one lead gtr, one bass, 2 vocal takes, some overdubbed harmonies and each of my separate drums for every song! haha.
What do you mean you're not interested?!?
It really does only work if you're heavily into the band in question...think i've just proved that...
I do think, however that there are enough people that are interested to make it a worthwhile venture for the band...
If anyone wants to hear my bands multi tracks then they can feel free - 2 rhythm guitar tracks, one lead gtr, one bass, 2 vocal takes, some overdubbed harmonies and each of my separate drums for every song! haha.
What do you mean you're not interested?!?
It really does only work if you're heavily into the band in question...think i've just proved that...
I do think, however that there are enough people that are interested to make it a worthwhile venture for the band...
A huge band, I mean awesomely huge... could possibly expect to make a bit of money by offering multitrack versions of their songs. But probably not much money.
I don't know what insane number of copies that Greatest Hits 1 has sold since it came out... let's say something like 100 million for arguments sake.
100 million people who liked Queen's music forked out for that album.
You can almost be certain that not all 100 million of them were audio engineers, people who like to remix music, or people that would know what to do with a multitrack if they got it.
This sort of thing is really only fun for enthusiasts. I had great fun with the Bohemian Rhapsody tapes; it finally allowed me to do the solo on Youtube without having to play to a shitty MIDI backing, to play to dead air, or play along with the original (which is cheating!).
I love it when these things leak, but you can pretty much forget ever being able to buy them.
I'm just hanging out for the day that Pink Floyd stuff starts to leak out.....
I don't know what insane number of copies that Greatest Hits 1 has sold since it came out... let's say something like 100 million for arguments sake.
100 million people who liked Queen's music forked out for that album.
You can almost be certain that not all 100 million of them were audio engineers, people who like to remix music, or people that would know what to do with a multitrack if they got it.
This sort of thing is really only fun for enthusiasts. I had great fun with the Bohemian Rhapsody tapes; it finally allowed me to do the solo on Youtube without having to play to a shitty MIDI backing, to play to dead air, or play along with the original (which is cheating!).
I love it when these things leak, but you can pretty much forget ever being able to buy them.
I'm just hanging out for the day that Pink Floyd stuff starts to leak out.....
Leak them all! If there is a god it WILL happen. Let's just hope we find the ones for the dark side of the moon too! haha
i say that there should be a poll for the one song we want to hear the multitracks of and they should put them up for download
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]lettherebegene wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Also...if people sample the masters doesn't that mean that queen'd make even MORE money through their release?[/QUOTE]
Yes. But that's QPL for ya. They want to count the money NOW, not later.
Yes. But that's QPL for ya. They want to count the money NOW, not later.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]lettherebegene wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i say that there should be a poll for the one song we want to hear the multitracks of and they should put them up for download
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Er, had they done so, the song that would have won would be one of the four that are already out, so we'd all be three songs down on the current position.
Not entirely sure you've thought that through.
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Er, had they done so, the song that would have won would be one of the four that are already out, so we'd all be three songs down on the current position.
Not entirely sure you've thought that through.
Honestly; I really do not think that releasing multitracks would turn a profit.
The only way would be to sell in it in a format that will also play the song in very high quality 'as you remember it'. Otherwise the average listener would have no use for it. It'd be bought by completists and remixers.... and that's it.
Besides which, I don't think my idea would work. If multitracks were released in a format whereby you could either tinker or listen to it 'as intended', most people would just see it as an expensive re-issue.
Maybe if I write David Gilmour a letter he'll send me "Meddle".
Thoughts? :)
The only way would be to sell in it in a format that will also play the song in very high quality 'as you remember it'. Otherwise the average listener would have no use for it. It'd be bought by completists and remixers.... and that's it.
Besides which, I don't think my idea would work. If multitracks were released in a format whereby you could either tinker or listen to it 'as intended', most people would just see it as an expensive re-issue.
Maybe if I write David Gilmour a letter he'll send me "Meddle".
Thoughts? :)
Masters aren't exactly useful for the traditional fan, except for those that are interested in remixing or audio engineering, or the completists that buy anything under a certain brand (no this isn't a pun). It would be expensive to make, distribute and sell, and won't be profitable. It would be a great idea for some of us to have access to some of that stuff, but for the band's bank accounts it won't work.
There are also the obvious risks of having the material "stolen" and reused to death, and depending on the band's (or their lawyers) policies about it, it would be a mess to hunt down all these "thieves".
Something I was thinking when playing a bit with some of these multitracks of other artists is that I noticed that sometimes certain songs sound much better if they had just done something different in the mix - less guitars, a simpler drum, etc. etc. And this can annoy a lot of famous producers...
There are also the obvious risks of having the material "stolen" and reused to death, and depending on the band's (or their lawyers) policies about it, it would be a mess to hunt down all these "thieves".
Something I was thinking when playing a bit with some of these multitracks of other artists is that I noticed that sometimes certain songs sound much better if they had just done something different in the mix - less guitars, a simpler drum, etc. etc. And this can annoy a lot of famous producers...