[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]bgordon88 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]
There jusy seem to be alot of people who are almost turning on Brian, Roger and Paul in a kind of personal way because they album does not meet their expectations. There is almost a "string em up" type attitude which I find strange in a fan forum. I guess the heresy here is using the Queen name but Freddie Mercury/Queen should not be used like a religion to breed hatred amongst people - how can that be right ?[/QUOTE]
"turning on" is a strong word to use...people are entitled to their opinion. just because YOU might loev ti....or love the sound of Brian farting in a jar...doesn;t mean aeveryone ahs to like it too
and "not meeting their expectations" is a fair assessment - ie - if it doens;t then of course it's disappointing/average/shit/tedious....whatever
TCR is no different ot any other album out there...if people dont like it they are entitled to say so...as mildly or strongly as they feel about it, after all if it was any other rock band you wouldn;t be complaining about these opinions would you?
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Why is the Queen +PR stuff even being talked about on a QUEEN website? This isn't Queen, its an "I am trying to extract a few more pennies from the record buying public before I end up in an Alzheimer's home" attempt at cashing in former glories.
It's very boring.
And a little bit embarrassing.
IMHO.
It's very boring.
And a little bit embarrassing.
IMHO.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]clear wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Ha ha, it does sound dramatic doesn't it. Here's why - a review I wrote when I first heard it...
1 Cosmos Rockin – The guitar just after the opening “What planet is this?” is a direct steal from the opening of “I Would Do Anything For Love” by Meat Loaf.The structure sounds like a Jeff Lynne (ELO) song . The backing vocals remind me of The Beasties Boys “Fight For Your Right To PAAAARTY” thing from the 80’s – “the policeman says Stop This Noise”.And don’t forget , this is the opener – supposedly designed to grab us.
2 Time To Shine – Oh shit, is he going to try a Mustapha… no wait…it’s turned into Pinball Wizard. The wailing chorus sounds like John Farnham.
3 Still Burnin – A dirge. I was trying to identify the middle 8 guitar sound and was listening to clips from NOTW and Jazz and it made me sad. The quality and originality of the those albums just pisses over this. And then, OH MY GOD, the WWRY drum/clap. Bloody hell, are you doing a new album or is it a tribue. Why Paul Rogers would allow that is a mystery.
4 Small – Is this an attempt at an “Imagine” (music, not lyrics). I quite like the melody. That fazy bit towards the end is also a bit ELO (I suppose it’s the cosmos connection – Jeff should claim royalties).
5 Warboys – The opening reminded me of “Freedom Train” from “Happiness” but when I listened to “FT” it just reminded me of “Liar” (the syncopated rhythm). After that initial interest it goes nowhere. Another sludgy mess. I know that PR is a respected singer etc but to me he sounds constipated and having a good strain on the bog.
6 We Believe – The start of this sounds like a cross between the song that opened the last tour (Reaching Out?) and a Clliff Richard Christmas number. Then Brian rips off the riff from “Leaving Home Ain’t Easy” (keep up you youngun’s). When it gets going those typical Queen block harmonies are so obviously missing Fred’s voice. And the lyrics…. Brian Ithink..have an animal rights element at the end. Good on you Brian. How did you get Roger “Countryside Alliance” to agree to that one?
7 Call Me – A playful Brian number (sort of “Let Your Heart Rule Your Head”). Paul is much too butch for this though and has to finish the track with a dismissive laugh (as if to say “what a crock”… indeed).
8 Voodoo – Just un-necessary indulgent wank. At least “See What A Fool I’ve Been” had Fred’s voice on it.
9 Some Things That Glitter – Another song that tries to create interest by bringing in the drums after the first chorus (“Small”). This is SO weak.
10 C-lebrity – Yes, the people you refer to in the lyric have nothing to offer – but, obviously, neither have you anymore. And this was the single!!!!!!!! Old, bitter men realising their time in the sun has gone.
11 Through The Night – By this time even the most ardent QPR apologist must be reaching for the asprin bottle. I can’t think of any occasion in life when I’d like to listen to this depressing rot.
12 Say It’s No True – My partner (who only knows Queens music through me) said “Isn’t this Roger’s solo thing. Of course he’s right. It’s a rip off of “Foreign Sand”.
13 Surf’s Up, Schools Out – Jim Steinman (who wrote Meat Loaf’s most successful stuff) had a solo album called “Bad For Good”. The title track was used by Meat Loaf on his last album with Mr Brian May as guest guitarist. What a surprise that the original Jim Steinman album has a track called “Surf’s Up”. For good measure they’ve added the Alice Cooper title “School’s Out” and included some “Flash” style dialogue about weather warnings at the beginning.
[/QUOTE] I'v now listened to this Cd long enough to give my opinion about this brilliant piece of work by the boys, or not so brilliant. I'm surprised how many people like the first song 'cosmos rockin' the song is one of the worst opening songs I'v heard, almost embarrassing. Other songs I don't like are 'celebrity' through the night, 'surf's up...schools out' We believe is probably my least favorite song on the album. Warboys is the most queenie sounding song, and wasn't even written by brian or roger, sadly it's not a very good. The album does have some good songs, Voodoo is great, and small is a nice little ballad. Some things that glitter is probably my favorite song on the album, and is brians best written song for over a decade. I like about 5 songs out of 13.
1 Cosmos Rockin – The guitar just after the opening “What planet is this?” is a direct steal from the opening of “I Would Do Anything For Love” by Meat Loaf.The structure sounds like a Jeff Lynne (ELO) song . The backing vocals remind me of The Beasties Boys “Fight For Your Right To PAAAARTY” thing from the 80’s – “the policeman says Stop This Noise”.And don’t forget , this is the opener – supposedly designed to grab us.
2 Time To Shine – Oh shit, is he going to try a Mustapha… no wait…it’s turned into Pinball Wizard. The wailing chorus sounds like John Farnham.
3 Still Burnin – A dirge. I was trying to identify the middle 8 guitar sound and was listening to clips from NOTW and Jazz and it made me sad. The quality and originality of the those albums just pisses over this. And then, OH MY GOD, the WWRY drum/clap. Bloody hell, are you doing a new album or is it a tribue. Why Paul Rogers would allow that is a mystery.
4 Small – Is this an attempt at an “Imagine” (music, not lyrics). I quite like the melody. That fazy bit towards the end is also a bit ELO (I suppose it’s the cosmos connection – Jeff should claim royalties).
5 Warboys – The opening reminded me of “Freedom Train” from “Happiness” but when I listened to “FT” it just reminded me of “Liar” (the syncopated rhythm). After that initial interest it goes nowhere. Another sludgy mess. I know that PR is a respected singer etc but to me he sounds constipated and having a good strain on the bog.
6 We Believe – The start of this sounds like a cross between the song that opened the last tour (Reaching Out?) and a Clliff Richard Christmas number. Then Brian rips off the riff from “Leaving Home Ain’t Easy” (keep up you youngun’s). When it gets going those typical Queen block harmonies are so obviously missing Fred’s voice. And the lyrics…. Brian Ithink..have an animal rights element at the end. Good on you Brian. How did you get Roger “Countryside Alliance” to agree to that one?
7 Call Me – A playful Brian number (sort of “Let Your Heart Rule Your Head”). Paul is much too butch for this though and has to finish the track with a dismissive laugh (as if to say “what a crock”… indeed).
8 Voodoo – Just un-necessary indulgent wank. At least “See What A Fool I’ve Been” had Fred’s voice on it.
9 Some Things That Glitter – Another song that tries to create interest by bringing in the drums after the first chorus (“Small”). This is SO weak.
10 C-lebrity – Yes, the people you refer to in the lyric have nothing to offer – but, obviously, neither have you anymore. And this was the single!!!!!!!! Old, bitter men realising their time in the sun has gone.
11 Through The Night – By this time even the most ardent QPR apologist must be reaching for the asprin bottle. I can’t think of any occasion in life when I’d like to listen to this depressing rot.
12 Say It’s No True – My partner (who only knows Queens music through me) said “Isn’t this Roger’s solo thing. Of course he’s right. It’s a rip off of “Foreign Sand”.
13 Surf’s Up, Schools Out – Jim Steinman (who wrote Meat Loaf’s most successful stuff) had a solo album called “Bad For Good”. The title track was used by Meat Loaf on his last album with Mr Brian May as guest guitarist. What a surprise that the original Jim Steinman album has a track called “Surf’s Up”. For good measure they’ve added the Alice Cooper title “School’s Out” and included some “Flash” style dialogue about weather warnings at the beginning.
[/QUOTE] I'v now listened to this Cd long enough to give my opinion about this brilliant piece of work by the boys, or not so brilliant. I'm surprised how many people like the first song 'cosmos rockin' the song is one of the worst opening songs I'v heard, almost embarrassing. Other songs I don't like are 'celebrity' through the night, 'surf's up...schools out' We believe is probably my least favorite song on the album. Warboys is the most queenie sounding song, and wasn't even written by brian or roger, sadly it's not a very good. The album does have some good songs, Voodoo is great, and small is a nice little ballad. Some things that glitter is probably my favorite song on the album, and is brians best written song for over a decade. I like about 5 songs out of 13.
Waaaaaaay back in the year "0001"... I bought David Bowie's "Heroes" LP and then sold it. I bought the Talking Heads' "Remain In Light" LP and sold it. I bought Jethro Tull's "Heavy Horses" LP and sold it. I later realized each awful error, one by one, and re-purchased all three classics. I now appreciate and even love all of them. Just because they weren't precisely what I EXPECTED didn't mean they each weren't great albums. Just because the artist's vision may have been lost on me initially doesn't mean they suck... or are, what did you say, "total toilet"? Amazing that you feel you can hurl insults like that at HUMAN members of a band who we all admire sufficiently to belong to a devoted messageboard. If you don't like it that's one thing, but to call it that name is out of line.
It's too bad you didn't give the CD time to grow on you, honey, cuz it will. Oh, it will. Yeah, it will.
It's too bad you didn't give the CD time to grow on you, honey, cuz it will. Oh, it will. Yeah, it will.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Negative Creep wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Marcos Napier wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]beautifulsoup wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The allowed you to return a CD that was opened?
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My thoughts as well.
What is getting boring is the hate of both parts. We can do whatever we want and there is no law that forbids us to hate it neither there is one that says that if you are a "proper fan" you must buy it and build an althar just to worship it. Those who loved it should respect those who hated it and vice-versa.
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Well, seeing as the new album doesn't come sealed.....
Anyway, you can return CDs that have been opened as long none of the packaging is damaged normally.[/QUOTE]
Heh, definitely not the case here in Canada (and I assume the US as well). Here, if you opened a product, you can only exchange it for the same product IF say there's a defect (as was the case with my Freddie Mercury Tribute DVD actually!), and within the time they give you from date of purchase on the receipt (eg. 2 weeks....really depends on stores).
I did notice my CD copy of TCR didn't have a shrinkwrap seal around it, when I got it from Amazon UK (wouldn't be the first time I've gotten a new import CD come without shrinkwrap, but it always seems weird to me!)
Heh, definitely not the case here in Canada (and I assume the US as well). Here, if you opened a product, you can only exchange it for the same product IF say there's a defect (as was the case with my Freddie Mercury Tribute DVD actually!), and within the time they give you from date of purchase on the receipt (eg. 2 weeks....really depends on stores).
I did notice my CD copy of TCR didn't have a shrinkwrap seal around it, when I got it from Amazon UK (wouldn't be the first time I've gotten a new import CD come without shrinkwrap, but it always seems weird to me!)
Well, then count me in as an IMPROPER QUEEN FAN. Proper Queen fans are childish, snobby, immature, and smell like Gouda.
And yes, I smell BS. What record shop lets you return an album simply because you didn't like it? Please give me a name, because I want to start doing all my shopping there.
And yes, I smell BS. What record shop lets you return an album simply because you didn't like it? Please give me a name, because I want to start doing all my shopping there.
The shop that exchanged my CD was ZAVVI on Tottenham Court, London. And if they do it, so will the other ZAVVIs. I also specifically told the guy at the checkout that I was exchanging it because it was not worth the money. I exchanged it for an couple of other albums. I'm not sure if they would give you a refund. Anyway, don't take my word for it, give them a call.
Yes, I am also surprised at the policy of that shop! Maybe the shop is an imaginary one. You buy a cd, listen to it and then return it and get your money back. It`s not even a rent-a-cd shop, where you would be charged a fee for using it. No, this is a shop which aims at giving away cds free. Maybe it`s a charity shop?
Cosmos Rocks is a very good album, it`s not very much rocky only because it has some slow, nice, beautiful melodies, that make it diverse. Which is a great advantage. Only rock would make it lop-sided and tasteless.
Jeez, what else can I do - here's the phone number of the f...ing shop - 020 7631 1234.
April, before making any more stupid posts call them and check for yourself.
It's no wonder you like the crappy album if these posts are a fair example of your intelligence.
April, before making any more stupid posts call them and check for yourself.
It's no wonder you like the crappy album if these posts are a fair example of your intelligence.
I just called that shop and spoke to a lovely lady name Marie. No, they don't accept open product returns without defect. I also asked if anyone had returned the new Queen CD because they didn't like it. She can't speak for everyone in the store, but there are no copies in their returns box, which they keep in the back room. Clear is clearly full of it.
UPDATED SCORE: Microwave 1 Clear 0
and from their website:
We will not issue any refunds where the item has been removed from its sealed packaging.
Source: http://www.zavvi.co.uk/help_returns/i.jsf
and from their website:
We will not issue any refunds where the item has been removed from its sealed packaging.
Source: http://www.zavvi.co.uk/help_returns/i.jsf
I think he's gone.
Let's delete his account while we're at it. All opposed: explain the thoery of relativity.
Let's delete his account while we're at it. All opposed: explain the thoery of relativity.
Micrówave wrote: I think he's gone. Let's delete his account while we're at it. All opposed: explain the thoery of relativity. your account should be deleted, why the hell do you care if he likes the cosmos rocks?....why do queen fans get so upset when fans hate on this album, but it's ok when these same idiots pile on hot space and the works. Get a life Microwave, not everyone likes this new album, Get over it!
Wow, people are still going on and on about this album. What irks me is not that people bad-mouth the album but they insinuate that Brian and Roger somehow committed a sin by making the album and shouldn't make music anymore. I don't like the album myself, but not because it doesn't 'sound like' Queen but because I think it's genuinely bad. I'm still glad that they made this album. It's nice to see Brian playing guitar for us once more, in the 'Queen name'. I don't understand why people waste time posting negative reviews here on QZ. If you really don't want people to buy the album, why not submit your "enlightening" review to Amazon.com or Allmusic.com?