Let's all respect one another.
I bought the album, nobody forced me into it. I was disappointed, but that's the risk with any album.
Been an active fan now for thirty years and I think taking this album back to the shop is both brave and brilliant!
And funny, ofcourse!
I just consider it to be a thing to keep the official collection complete... And if QPR can make a living out of that -if they would need it anyway- I can live with that all the way. They've tried, they've failed, I've got a new album. That's all!
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I don`t think it`s fair to compare the album with old Queen releases. It can`t be anything of the kind, first of all cause the 2 members are missing, and a new one is introduced. Some shifts are inevitable. And as for me i think they didn`t fail with the album, they managed to maintain the high quality of the production and live up to the expectations of the fans, most fans.
I love Freddie very much, i think he is the best ever singer, musician, artist on Earth. When i see his early (I especially love early) pics or videos i get overwhelmed with emotions and every time it happens i realize how much i love him and always will. So when i learned about the guys` colaboration with Paul, their writing music, forming a band, touring, I couldn`t believe it, it seemed too incredible to be true. "Queen again, revived, living, breathing?" - I thought. Fantastic, at last! How happy Freddie would have been learning about it! I believe he would! Now there`s a band for me to love and to listen to, and to think about Freddie...
I love Freddie very much, i think he is the best ever singer, musician, artist on Earth. When i see his early (I especially love early) pics or videos i get overwhelmed with emotions and every time it happens i realize how much i love him and always will. So when i learned about the guys` colaboration with Paul, their writing music, forming a band, touring, I couldn`t believe it, it seemed too incredible to be true. "Queen again, revived, living, breathing?" - I thought. Fantastic, at last! How happy Freddie would have been learning about it! I believe he would! Now there`s a band for me to love and to listen to, and to think about Freddie...
This is still going?
The Rik (love your ESPN commercials, by the way) said:
Let's all respect one another.
I bought the album, nobody forced me into it. I was disappointed, but that's the risk with any album.
Been an active fan now for thirty years and I think taking this album back to the shop is both brave and brilliant!
And funny, ofcourse!
Well, I submit to you that the topic starter is the one disrespecting us, disrespectful for we who like Cosmos Rocks.
What was the point of his creative fiction, other than to stir things up? First off, anyone who "takes an album back" because they didn't like it is an idiot in the first place. It's not brave. It's not brilliant. It's an idiot who bought something without looking into it. There are all kinds of places physical and here on the internet where he could have listened to it FOR FREE. Why would he just go buy it unknowing? Because he's an idiot.
I still don't think he took it back. Is this how he buys his cars? his insurance? his house payment? his cell phone bill? Don't most people check things out prior to purchase?
I guess if he didn't like Crunch Berries, he'd take those back to the grocery store then, yes?
That would sure show Captain Crunch!!!
The Rik (love your ESPN commercials, by the way) said:
Let's all respect one another.
I bought the album, nobody forced me into it. I was disappointed, but that's the risk with any album.
Been an active fan now for thirty years and I think taking this album back to the shop is both brave and brilliant!
And funny, ofcourse!
Well, I submit to you that the topic starter is the one disrespecting us, disrespectful for we who like Cosmos Rocks.
What was the point of his creative fiction, other than to stir things up? First off, anyone who "takes an album back" because they didn't like it is an idiot in the first place. It's not brave. It's not brilliant. It's an idiot who bought something without looking into it. There are all kinds of places physical and here on the internet where he could have listened to it FOR FREE. Why would he just go buy it unknowing? Because he's an idiot.
I still don't think he took it back. Is this how he buys his cars? his insurance? his house payment? his cell phone bill? Don't most people check things out prior to purchase?
I guess if he didn't like Crunch Berries, he'd take those back to the grocery store then, yes?
That would sure show Captain Crunch!!!
Brave and brilliant?
Talking an album back?(supposedly)
Man you have some low standards.
LMAO!
Why stop there?
Might as well consider it heroic and revolutionary
Talking an album back?(supposedly)
Man you have some low standards.
LMAO!
Why stop there?
Might as well consider it heroic and revolutionary
Yes, if CLEAR was around back then, William Wallace might not have been defeated.
I know CLEAR would fight for Scotland. I'd be peeing my pants like the rest of everyone who likes one second of Cosmos Rocks. We are cowards.
I know CLEAR would fight for Scotland. I'd be peeing my pants like the rest of everyone who likes one second of Cosmos Rocks. We are cowards.
I personally love TCR album. Easily my favourite album of the year so far and it just gets better with every listen.
I really wasn't sure they could pull it off, but by golly they have!
Fantastic to have them back!! [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img]
I really wasn't sure they could pull it off, but by golly they have!
Fantastic to have them back!! [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img]
If
you see Q+PR as a new band or a spin-off from the old ones (Queen, Bad
Company etc.) i think it's ok. I mean they obviously don't do it for
the money and the shows are still very good, even if you compare them
with some newer acts, they still deliver and are great musicians in
their own right.I enjoy the
Q+PR concerts and like the new album but for me the magic has
disappeared. I think a lot of fans think the same way, Queen
was something special.
Maybe it's also a age thing but i like to remember Queen like they were. It has nothing to do with Paul Rodgers (great singer) or Brian and Roger doing a kind of fan-service for a lot of younger people who got involved in Queen and never had the change to see them live in their heydays. But there is a huge difference between Q+PR and Queen as a lot of people loved or hated them.
I'm still a kind of fan but i lost some interest in Queen as Q+PR. For me a Brian or Roger solo tour/album would be far more interesting. I would like some new solo material from them. For example, look at Mark Knopfler, he quit Dire Straits and if you like him or not he's doing all kinds of solo-projects and solo tours with here and there some old Dire Straits songs. I think that's the way you(they) should do it, it's more graceful and interesting then singing the same old songs over and over again. To quote Freddie Mercury "my songs are like disposable razors, you use them and throw them away".
I think they also made a new album as Q+PR because without it they would be a super classic rock band from the past delivering Queen, Bad Company and Free songs. And yes, Queen always tried new things, but without the other half of Queen the chemistry is gone and we are left with just a good rock/blues/ballad record with some little references/trademarks from the past, nothing more.
That's my opinion on TCR, it's not bad but you cant compare Queen albums with Q+PR.
Maybe it's also a age thing but i like to remember Queen like they were. It has nothing to do with Paul Rodgers (great singer) or Brian and Roger doing a kind of fan-service for a lot of younger people who got involved in Queen and never had the change to see them live in their heydays. But there is a huge difference between Q+PR and Queen as a lot of people loved or hated them.
I'm still a kind of fan but i lost some interest in Queen as Q+PR. For me a Brian or Roger solo tour/album would be far more interesting. I would like some new solo material from them. For example, look at Mark Knopfler, he quit Dire Straits and if you like him or not he's doing all kinds of solo-projects and solo tours with here and there some old Dire Straits songs. I think that's the way you(they) should do it, it's more graceful and interesting then singing the same old songs over and over again. To quote Freddie Mercury "my songs are like disposable razors, you use them and throw them away".
I think they also made a new album as Q+PR because without it they would be a super classic rock band from the past delivering Queen, Bad Company and Free songs. And yes, Queen always tried new things, but without the other half of Queen the chemistry is gone and we are left with just a good rock/blues/ballad record with some little references/trademarks from the past, nothing more.
That's my opinion on TCR, it's not bad but you cant compare Queen albums with Q+PR.
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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
This is still going?
The Rik (love your ESPN commercials, by the way) said:
Let's all respect one another.
I bought the album, nobody forced me into it. I was disappointed, but that's the risk with any album.
Been an active fan now for thirty years and I think taking this album back to the shop is both brave and brilliant!
And funny, ofcourse!
Well, I submit to you that the topic starter is the one disrespecting us, disrespectful for we who like Cosmos Rocks.
What was the point of his creative fiction, other than to stir things up? First off, anyone who "takes an album back" because they didn't like it is an idiot in the first place. It's not brave. It's not brilliant. It's an idiot who bought something without looking into it. There are all kinds of places physical and here on the internet where he could have listened to it FOR FREE. Why would he just go buy it unknowing? Because he's an idiot.
I still don't think he took it back. Is this how he buys his cars? his insurance? his house payment? his cell phone bill? Don't most people check things out prior to purchase?
I guess if he didn't like Crunch Berries, he'd take those back to the grocery store then, yes?
That would sure show Captain Crunch!!!
[/QUOTE]
Well Microwave,
I bought it because I was under the desperately wrong impression that two of the members of the band (that I've followed since 1973/4) may have done something brilliant. After all this live QPR shit, I still (somehow) had faith.
I agree it's not "brave" or "brilliant" to take an album back. I can only describe the experience of taking the QPR album back as, essentially. upsetting.
Not that I'd expect you to understand that. All you seem to want to do is attack me for my, obviously, superior understanding of the true essece of Queen (i.e. with Freddie Mercury - there is no other Queen).
And you compare buying a CD with "cars, insurance and house payments"? You idiot.
Your references to "Crunch Berries" and "Captain Crunch" just further proves your ignorance. Why use those references on a world-wide forum? You assume that the whole world is familiar with your counrty's trashy food and adverts?
Climb back into the "trash" can. With your QPR CD.
[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
This is still going?
The Rik (love your ESPN commercials, by the way) said:
Let's all respect one another.
I bought the album, nobody forced me into it. I was disappointed, but that's the risk with any album.
Been an active fan now for thirty years and I think taking this album back to the shop is both brave and brilliant!
And funny, ofcourse!
Well, I submit to you that the topic starter is the one disrespecting us, disrespectful for we who like Cosmos Rocks.
What was the point of his creative fiction, other than to stir things up? First off, anyone who "takes an album back" because they didn't like it is an idiot in the first place. It's not brave. It's not brilliant. It's an idiot who bought something without looking into it. There are all kinds of places physical and here on the internet where he could have listened to it FOR FREE. Why would he just go buy it unknowing? Because he's an idiot.
I still don't think he took it back. Is this how he buys his cars? his insurance? his house payment? his cell phone bill? Don't most people check things out prior to purchase?
I guess if he didn't like Crunch Berries, he'd take those back to the grocery store then, yes?
That would sure show Captain Crunch!!!
[/QUOTE]
Well Microwave,
I bought it because I was under the desperately wrong impression that two of the members of the band (that I've followed since 1973/4) may have done something brilliant. After all this live QPR shit, I still (somehow) had faith.
I agree it's not "brave" or "brilliant" to take an album back. I can only describe the experience of taking the QPR album back as, essentially. upsetting.
Not that I'd expect you to understand that. All you seem to want to do is attack me for my, obviously, superior understanding of the true essece of Queen (i.e. with Freddie Mercury - there is no other Queen).
And you compare buying a CD with "cars, insurance and house payments"? You idiot.
Your references to "Crunch Berries" and "Captain Crunch" just further proves your ignorance. Why use those references on a world-wide forum? You assume that the whole world is familiar with your counrty's trashy food and adverts?
Climb back into the "trash" can. With your QPR CD.
"All you seem to want to do is attack me for my, obviously, superior understanding of the true essece of Queen (i.e. with Freddie Mercury - there is no other Queen)."
See, dude, when you express yourself like this, you invite attack.
You've said you're understanding of the essence of Queen is superior to the rest of our respective understandings. People are going to take exception to this.
This argument over what is Queen, with Freddie dead and John retired, is sad and exhausted.
There are fans who want Brian and Roger to keep working and don't care what they call themselves as long as they make music.
There are fans who want Brian and Roger to keep working, but to let the Queen name rest in peace.
The first group, who don't care, understand the other group's position. They disagree, but they understand. The other group, the "No Freddie + No John = No Queen" group, can't for the life of them understand why the Don't Care group, well, doesn't care that Queen ain't Queen anymore and yet the name is still being used. Their view of what Queen is, the "essence," is so exact and specific and so defines their view of the world that any other view, even the view of the very people they are fans of, is flawed and beneath them.
Their arguments begin with "Freddie died. That's it for Queen." Then they progress to "Brian, Roger and John said there was no Queen without Freddie. Now they're hypocrites." After that, it moves to "The new product sucks, [insert "+ collaborator's" name here] is ruining Queen's legacy." And the last step is usually self-righteous indignation at all who oppose him or her (symptoms include insults and a superiority complex).
One of the things that makes us human is the very ability to hold dear two completely conflicting ideas or moral positions, both intellectually and emotionally. We reconcile these differences by ignoring them or selectively applying them. That's not hypocrisy, that's human nature. We like to think our world is black and white (that I will do [i]this[/i], but never do [i]that[/i]), but honestly, most of the time it's not.
What Queen is and what Queen isn't (or what isn't Queen) is trying to deal in absolutes, to make a grey situation black and white. It never was (even when the four members we love were working together) and never will be so exact a thing.
My question to all of you, on both sides of the fence, is: what do you want out of all this?
Brian and Roger are going to keep using Queen as their band's name whether you like it not, because [i]it's their band!
[/i]They know they can't make everyone happy, but that's never been a priority, just a pleasant by-product of their work. They don't need your happiness in order to look themselves in the mirror everyday.
Oh, and superiority complexes won't guilt them into doing what you want.
My answer to my own question, what I want, is an end to the griping. Agree to disagree and move on.
See, dude, when you express yourself like this, you invite attack.
You've said you're understanding of the essence of Queen is superior to the rest of our respective understandings. People are going to take exception to this.
This argument over what is Queen, with Freddie dead and John retired, is sad and exhausted.
There are fans who want Brian and Roger to keep working and don't care what they call themselves as long as they make music.
There are fans who want Brian and Roger to keep working, but to let the Queen name rest in peace.
The first group, who don't care, understand the other group's position. They disagree, but they understand. The other group, the "No Freddie + No John = No Queen" group, can't for the life of them understand why the Don't Care group, well, doesn't care that Queen ain't Queen anymore and yet the name is still being used. Their view of what Queen is, the "essence," is so exact and specific and so defines their view of the world that any other view, even the view of the very people they are fans of, is flawed and beneath them.
Their arguments begin with "Freddie died. That's it for Queen." Then they progress to "Brian, Roger and John said there was no Queen without Freddie. Now they're hypocrites." After that, it moves to "The new product sucks, [insert "+ collaborator's" name here] is ruining Queen's legacy." And the last step is usually self-righteous indignation at all who oppose him or her (symptoms include insults and a superiority complex).
One of the things that makes us human is the very ability to hold dear two completely conflicting ideas or moral positions, both intellectually and emotionally. We reconcile these differences by ignoring them or selectively applying them. That's not hypocrisy, that's human nature. We like to think our world is black and white (that I will do [i]this[/i], but never do [i]that[/i]), but honestly, most of the time it's not.
What Queen is and what Queen isn't (or what isn't Queen) is trying to deal in absolutes, to make a grey situation black and white. It never was (even when the four members we love were working together) and never will be so exact a thing.
My question to all of you, on both sides of the fence, is: what do you want out of all this?
Brian and Roger are going to keep using Queen as their band's name whether you like it not, because [i]it's their band!
[/i]They know they can't make everyone happy, but that's never been a priority, just a pleasant by-product of their work. They don't need your happiness in order to look themselves in the mirror everyday.
Oh, and superiority complexes won't guilt them into doing what you want.
My answer to my own question, what I want, is an end to the griping. Agree to disagree and move on.
That and have idiots like "clear" wiped from existance before he starts some stupid thread about Queen toys or something...
expressing via the internet any claim of being superior thru deception is...
not even worth bragging about ?
not even worth bragging about ?
At the end of the day, I fell for it and so didi the rest of you, but CLEAR is a TROLL, and that's that.
All he wants to do is wind us all up, and get the attention he has got for the last SIX pages, and so, with that in mind, I hereby consign him to the anals of history.. And I think anals is a great word for where he belongs.
My last word on the subject.
All he wants to do is wind us all up, and get the attention he has got for the last SIX pages, and so, with that in mind, I hereby consign him to the anals of history.. And I think anals is a great word for where he belongs.
My last word on the subject.
it's not the queen i know and love, i actually can't listen to it all the way through
and there are no Brian, Roger vocal tracks ???
i live in Australia and there is no mention at all about this release and no radio airplay either
[b]after listening to TCR i really felt the need to hear Freddie's voice [/b]
I miss Freddie Mercury now more than ever :(
and there are no Brian, Roger vocal tracks ???
i live in Australia and there is no mention at all about this release and no radio airplay either
[b]after listening to TCR i really felt the need to hear Freddie's voice [/b]
I miss Freddie Mercury now more than ever :(
Let's rock her cosmo!!!
IMO - The music is interesting and diverse. They could have spent a bit more time on the lyrics.
Even though freddie always thouht that lyrics were disposable....
The album is good but it is no "Snakes & Arrows" - that's for sure.
Even though freddie always thouht that lyrics were disposable....
The album is good but it is no "Snakes & Arrows" - that's for sure.