We live in very scary times. Our economy is collapsing. And there doesn't appear to be any good news.
Do you think America will bounce back and recover very soon?
I hope so.
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Uhh no. It's going down the crapper but I won't be flushed with it, i'm getting out
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: [/QUOTENAME]We live in very scary times. Our economy is collapsing. And there doesn't appear to be any good news.
Do you think America will bounce back and recover very soon?
I hope so.
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Only if Obama's voted in.
Do you think America will bounce back and recover very soon?
I hope so.
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Only if Obama's voted in.
I have very little faith in America.
I have 3 words for you..NEW WORLD ORDER
First goal of new world order: banish Treasure Moment.
I'm worried about this. I don't understand about half of it (yeah, try explaining the basics of the stock market to a 5th grader, I was forced to learn this....stupid gifted program) but my history teacher told me it's mainly Bush's fault. Douche.
I don't get the economy...It's frustrating, so if someone can break it down in real simple terms that would be great! But if your name is TM or Jake, don't explain this please....
I don't get the economy...It's frustrating, so if someone can break it down in real simple terms that would be great! But if your name is TM or Jake, don't explain this please....
HAHA HAHAH AHAHAHA! look at you Americans now! Few years ago I had a talk with my American 'friend' about how his country was dying, he didn't believe me (none Americans did back then) They said it's the greatest country on earth and all the shit. NOW look at you losers. You're no longer on one of the top places. You suck, you're dead. I was right when I said "Soon the American flag will so low, that it would touch the ground." People will use it to wipe their shoes. Or ass. Look at you pathetic rats. You were in denial THEN, but NOW you cannot deny it. You're over. Finished. Not even a new president can save your fat asses. You're so much in debt it's hilarious. Your sorrow is my happiness. No one wants you. LOL.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]warti wrote: [/QUOTENAME]HAHA HAHAH AHAHAHA! look at you Americans now! Few years ago I had a talk with my American 'friend' about how his country was dying, he didn't believe me (none Americans did back then) They said it's the greatest country on earth and all the shit. NOW look at you losers. You're no longer on one of the top places. You suck, you're dead. I was right when I said "Soon the American flag will so low, that it would touch the ground." People will use it to wipe their shoes. Or ass. Look at you pathetic rats. You were in denial THEN, but NOW you cannot deny it. You're over. Finished. Not even a new president can save your fat asses. You're so much in debt it's hilarious. Your sorrow is my happiness. No one wants you. LOL.[/QUOTE]
America will bounce back. We'll just invade your country Canada, and steal all your resources. You should be LUCKY to be geographically next to the Greatest Country in the world you dumb Canadian Hick. Backstabbing cowards like you make me sick.
America should invade your worthless Country, Canada. The world has no use for Canada anyway. What a pointless useless country it is.
America will bounce back. We'll just invade your country Canada, and steal all your resources. You should be LUCKY to be geographically next to the Greatest Country in the world you dumb Canadian Hick. Backstabbing cowards like you make me sick.
America should invade your worthless Country, Canada. The world has no use for Canada anyway. What a pointless useless country it is.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]warti wrote: [/QUOTENAME]HAHA HAHAH AHAHAHA! look at you Americans now! Few years ago I had a talk with my American 'friend' about how his country was dying, he didn't believe me (none Americans did back then) They said it's the greatest country on earth and all the shit. NOW look at you losers. You're no longer on one of the top places. You suck, you're dead. I was right when I said "Soon the American flag will so low, that it would touch the ground." People will use it to wipe their shoes. Or ass. Look at you pathetic rats. You were in denial THEN, but NOW you cannot deny it. You're over. Finished. Not even a new president can save your fat asses. You're so much in debt it's hilarious. Your sorrow is my happiness. No one wants you. LOL.[/QUOTE]Holy shit, we have a psycho on our hands. Most intelligent people in the USA (no insult to the economically inept) knew that the economy was heading in the wrong direction. It was only a matter of time before it reached this point. As far as the US being "dead", no, we're perfectly healthy (cholesterol levels may be a little high), and I hope you realize the effect our economic recession will have on your market. Not that I want to contribute to the sickening amount of arrogance that comes from the US, it's just a fact. The world market is feeling the pain.
So fuck off with your anti-US sentiment. We may be a little fucked up, but we're not all that bad. You, on the other hand, are extremely fucked up to feel an entire country's sorrow is your happiness, just on the basis of someone feeling that their country is better than yours. So, when the US economy bounces back, I hope you'll be as miserable as ever, sitting in your corner of the universe, grumbling about how the US is doomed to fail.
And hey, if the US does in fact crumble to dust from this economic crisis (unlikely, to say the least) I may be joining you in Canada.
*Awaiting response of American scum polluting Canada, and how you would never allow an American 2 feet away from you from fear of contagious american cooties*
So fuck off with your anti-US sentiment. We may be a little fucked up, but we're not all that bad. You, on the other hand, are extremely fucked up to feel an entire country's sorrow is your happiness, just on the basis of someone feeling that their country is better than yours. So, when the US economy bounces back, I hope you'll be as miserable as ever, sitting in your corner of the universe, grumbling about how the US is doomed to fail.
And hey, if the US does in fact crumble to dust from this economic crisis (unlikely, to say the least) I may be joining you in Canada.
*Awaiting response of American scum polluting Canada, and how you would never allow an American 2 feet away from you from fear of contagious american cooties*
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]warti wrote: [/QUOTENAME]HAHA HAHAH AHAHAHA! look at you Americans now! Few years ago I had a talk with my American 'friend' about how his country was dying, he didn't believe me (none Americans did back then) They said it's the greatest country on earth and all the shit. NOW look at you losers. You're no longer on one of the top places. You suck, you're dead. I was right when I said "Soon the American flag will so low, that it would touch the ground." People will use it to wipe their shoes. Or ass. Look at you pathetic rats. You were in denial THEN, but NOW you cannot deny it. You're over. Finished. Not even a new president can save your fat asses. You're so much in debt it's hilarious. Your sorrow is my happiness. No one wants you. LOL.[/QUOTE]America will bounce back. We'll just invade your country Canada, and steal all your resources. You should be LUCKY to be geographically next to the Greatest Country in the world you dumb Canadian Hick. Backstabbing cowards like you make me sick.America should invade your worthless Country, Canada. The world has no use for Canada anyway. What a pointless useless country it is.[/QUOTE]
Fuck off. I know I'm in the same country as you, but I hate that sort of US arrogance. Canada is a pretty kick ass country, and you make the US look bad.
Fuck off. I know I'm in the same country as you, but I hate that sort of US arrogance. Canada is a pretty kick ass country, and you make the US look bad.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]warti wrote: [/QUOTENAME]HAHA HAHAH AHAHAHA! look at you Americans now! Few years ago I had a talk with my American 'friend' about how his country was dying, he didn't believe me (none Americans did back then) They said it's the greatest country on earth and all the shit. NOW look at you losers. You're no longer on one of the top places. You suck, you're dead. I was right when I said "Soon the American flag will so low, that it would touch the ground." People will use it to wipe their shoes. Or ass. Look at you pathetic rats. You were in denial THEN, but NOW you cannot deny it. You're over. Finished. Not even a new president can save your fat asses. You're so much in debt it's hilarious. Your sorrow is my happiness. No one wants you. LOL.[/QUOTE]
America will bounce back. We'll just invade your country Canada, and steal all your resources. You should be LUCKY to be geographically next to the Greatest Country in the world you dumb Canadian Hick. Backstabbing cowards like you make me sick.
America should invade your worthless Country, Canada. The world has no use for Canada anyway. What a pointless useless country it is.
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You're an idiot. I really hope you die soon or kill yourself.
You're an idiot. I really hope you die soon or kill yourself.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]StoneColdClassicQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm worried about this. I don't understand about half of it (yeah, try explaining the basics of the stock market to a 5th grader, I was forced to learn this....stupid gifted program) but my history teacher told me it's mainly Bush's fault. Douche.
I don't get the economy...It's frustrating, so if someone can break it down in real simple terms that would be great! But if your name is TM or Jake, don't explain this please....
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I can't explain the entire credit crisis to you right now, but I assure you that Bush had little to nothing to do with the current credit crisis, regardless how much you or I dislike him.
Here's a brief synopsis:
It all started with federal guarantees of mortgages through GSEs like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. As a result, a moral hazard was created for providing loans to people who should not have gotten them (i.e. subprime lending). This increased the demand for houses, as people who ordinarily could not afford to buy houses began buying them. As demand increases, so do prices - and if prices had continued to climb, subprime borrowers might have been able to refinance their loans, and come out unscathed. Obviously, this could not continue indefinitely, and after prices began to fall, borrowers began defaulting on their loans.
Lenders then sold off their loans to companies like Fannie and Freddie, who securitized them as mortgage backed securities and collateralized debt obligations. Essentially, for the sake of simplification, these are like bonds whose payments are funded by mortgage payments. If mortgage payments default, it inhibits cash flows to the CDOs. Even though these securities were backed by unsafe subprime loans, they were given unreasonably (in hindsight) high ratings, and were bought by companies like Merrill, Lehman, and Stearns.
Now, what this does is takes the risk that mortgage lenders take on as lenders, and passes it off to investors. Therefore, mortgage companies had an incentive to make bad loans, and pass them off to investors. Investors had an incentive to buy mortgage securities because the government was guaranteeing them. The result is the massive shitfest we are in now.
I hope that all made sense. I took a very complicated and confusing issue and simplified it greatly, and I may have even accidentally missed or misrepresented a few, possibly important, steps. However, this is the best I have for you at the moment.
I can't explain the entire credit crisis to you right now, but I assure you that Bush had little to nothing to do with the current credit crisis, regardless how much you or I dislike him.
Here's a brief synopsis:
It all started with federal guarantees of mortgages through GSEs like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. As a result, a moral hazard was created for providing loans to people who should not have gotten them (i.e. subprime lending). This increased the demand for houses, as people who ordinarily could not afford to buy houses began buying them. As demand increases, so do prices - and if prices had continued to climb, subprime borrowers might have been able to refinance their loans, and come out unscathed. Obviously, this could not continue indefinitely, and after prices began to fall, borrowers began defaulting on their loans.
Lenders then sold off their loans to companies like Fannie and Freddie, who securitized them as mortgage backed securities and collateralized debt obligations. Essentially, for the sake of simplification, these are like bonds whose payments are funded by mortgage payments. If mortgage payments default, it inhibits cash flows to the CDOs. Even though these securities were backed by unsafe subprime loans, they were given unreasonably (in hindsight) high ratings, and were bought by companies like Merrill, Lehman, and Stearns.
Now, what this does is takes the risk that mortgage lenders take on as lenders, and passes it off to investors. Therefore, mortgage companies had an incentive to make bad loans, and pass them off to investors. Investors had an incentive to buy mortgage securities because the government was guaranteeing them. The result is the massive shitfest we are in now.
I hope that all made sense. I took a very complicated and confusing issue and simplified it greatly, and I may have even accidentally missed or misrepresented a few, possibly important, steps. However, this is the best I have for you at the moment.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]StoneColdClassicQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm worried about this. I don't understand about half of it (yeah, try explaining the basics of the stock market to a 5th grader, I was forced to learn this....stupid gifted program) but my history teacher told me it's mainly Bush's fault. Douche. I don't get the economy...It's frustrating, so if someone can break it down in real simple terms that would be great! But if your name is TM or Jake, don't explain this please.... [/QUOTE]
you are just sloooow, you dont get the whole picture, new world order is on its way and you wont realize it before its too late and people who keep denying it deserve whats coming.
you are just sloooow, you dont get the whole picture, new world order is on its way and you wont realize it before its too late and people who keep denying it deserve whats coming.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Saif wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]warti wrote: [/QUOTENAME]HAHA HAHAH AHAHAHA! look at you Americans now! Few years ago I had a talk with my American 'friend' about how his country was dying, he didn't believe me (none Americans did back then) They said it's the greatest country on earth and all the shit. NOW look at you losers. You're no longer on one of the top places. You suck, you're dead. I was right when I said "Soon the American flag will so low, that it would touch the ground." People will use it to wipe their shoes. Or ass. Look at you pathetic rats. You were in denial THEN, but NOW you cannot deny it. You're over. Finished. Not even a new president can save your fat asses. You're so much in debt it's hilarious. Your sorrow is my happiness. No one wants you. LOL.[/QUOTE] America will bounce back. We'll just invade your country Canada, and steal all your resources. You should be LUCKY to be geographically next to the Greatest Country in the world you dumb Canadian Hick. Backstabbing cowards like you make me sick. America should invade your worthless Country, Canada. The world has no use for Canada anyway. What a pointless useless country it is. [/QUOTE] You're an idiot. I really hope you die soon or kill yourself. [/QUOTE]
Thanks but sorry to disappoint you Saif, but I doubt I'll die anytime soon. And I won't kill myself.
Do you have anything else to say Saif?
Thanks but sorry to disappoint you Saif, but I doubt I'll die anytime soon. And I won't kill myself.
Do you have anything else to say Saif?