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[b]gnomo wrote: [/b]
There will NEVER be any new solo material from Brian or Roger, because it won't be commercially profitable, so no record company will publish and support it.
Just look at what half-hearted microscopic support TCR has gotten, despite the Queen name on it!!!
Paul is the only one with a continuing solo career.
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Utter nonsense. Neither Brian or Roger would have any problem getting solo material out. In fact, off the back of the recent "Queen" activity, any solo work would probably perform better than they did in the late 90's. I seriously doubt Paul Rodgers as a solo artist sold even the same amount that any of the previous Brian/Roger albums did.
The amount of idiots on this forum who think anyone who sells less than a Queen greatest hits collection either can't release records or make a loss on everything they release is hilarious.
Regarding Q+PR - I would expect more gigs. I certainly wouldn't expect a follow up record, based on what they have released and the reaction (or lack of) to it.
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[b]Negative Creep wrote: [/b]
Neither Brian or Roger would have any problem getting solo material out.
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The amount of idiots on this forum...
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... pity "I'm no gambling man" - I would bet a sixpence ...
And I'd actually be very happy to lose and be proved wrong, because I do like their solo works - but I am trying to be realistic, and not mistake my wishes and hopes for real chances of things happening.
However, of course, we're each fully entitled to our individual opinions, in the absence of "official" statements or figures or other "hard data" on the matter.
So: good luck, you intelligent and polite one!
Oh, and of course I apologise for omitting my usual "IMVHO & FWLIW & NOM" from my previous post - I should add it to my signature...
[b]Negative Creep wrote: [/b]
Neither Brian or Roger would have any problem getting solo material out.
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The amount of idiots on this forum...
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... pity "I'm no gambling man" - I would bet a sixpence ...
And I'd actually be very happy to lose and be proved wrong, because I do like their solo works - but I am trying to be realistic, and not mistake my wishes and hopes for real chances of things happening.
However, of course, we're each fully entitled to our individual opinions, in the absence of "official" statements or figures or other "hard data" on the matter.
So: good luck, you intelligent and polite one!
Oh, and of course I apologise for omitting my usual "IMVHO & FWLIW & NOM" from my previous post - I should add it to my signature...
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[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
"Freddie is still with us" (actual quote of Brian in this interview)
NO HE'S NOT.
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Yes, Freddie is with them. In the songs, in the spirit and on the screen. Brian himself admitted it! And he knows better than any of us. Cause he`s an insider...
[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
"Freddie is still with us" (actual quote of Brian in this interview)
NO HE'S NOT.
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Yes, Freddie is with them. In the songs, in the spirit and on the screen. Brian himself admitted it! And he knows better than any of us. Cause he`s an insider...
In spirit and screen I must agree. But in the songs? Unless I am missing something and can't see him on stage in the middle of the smoke as some did.
As long as they sing old songs, [b]Freddie`s songs[/b] and remember him at every concert! I would love them to write a Freddie song. But is it possible? It would be imitation, and in fact they needn`t do it...So he`s there with them.
Hopefully in about 3 hours from now it will be all over.
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[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
Hopefully in about 3 hours from now it will be all over.
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I still can't get why some people can't understand that there are a lot of people that love QPR...and you know even if I don't like some of the bands i don't wish them to stop or finish their projects just becouse I don't like them...I just don't listen to them...but I understand that there are people who go to the concerts and it's ok...they like it I dont't like and it's all right...Can't you see that QPR brought so many great moments to their fans...emotions...joy during their tours? I attended one QPR concert (I wish I could go to more concerts) and it was definitely one of the greatest moments in my life...And there are really an awful lot of peolpe who can say the same thing...If you look at the audience during QPR concerts...you can see a lot of smiles..pure joy...most people are really happy...sometimes they are also moved to tears...so is it bad? Why the hell do you want QPR to finish this...? As long as they bring so much joy to the audience and they want to continue they should do it without any doubt! If you don't like it just stay away. It's that easy can't you see? Just stop being so selfish...look what response did the band get recently... in Argentina...it was amazing. And hopefully we will see more moments like this. And ok I understand that some people just don't want the others to be happy...some selfish people like you...and I hope maybe some day you will undestand that you are not the most importatnt person in the world...and that some people had to wait for so long to finally see their favourite musicans on stage...and if there hadn't been QPR project it wouldn't have happend...
I hope QPR will not finish at this point...and when I look at them they seem to have a lot of fan on stage and so does the audience...anyway nobody knows what will happen...neither Brian Roger and Paul can say for sure what will happen with this project within next few years...so all we can do is wait...and wish them all the best...anyway I somehow get the feeling that we will see the next European tour again one day...:) But if their decide to finish it's ok...all I can say is big thank you to them for what they've done in the last 3-4 years...and I will cherish the memory of the concert I've attended and tell my children this story one day...so do you still think that QPR is so bad?
[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
Hopefully in about 3 hours from now it will be all over.
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I still can't get why some people can't understand that there are a lot of people that love QPR...and you know even if I don't like some of the bands i don't wish them to stop or finish their projects just becouse I don't like them...I just don't listen to them...but I understand that there are people who go to the concerts and it's ok...they like it I dont't like and it's all right...Can't you see that QPR brought so many great moments to their fans...emotions...joy during their tours? I attended one QPR concert (I wish I could go to more concerts) and it was definitely one of the greatest moments in my life...And there are really an awful lot of peolpe who can say the same thing...If you look at the audience during QPR concerts...you can see a lot of smiles..pure joy...most people are really happy...sometimes they are also moved to tears...so is it bad? Why the hell do you want QPR to finish this...? As long as they bring so much joy to the audience and they want to continue they should do it without any doubt! If you don't like it just stay away. It's that easy can't you see? Just stop being so selfish...look what response did the band get recently... in Argentina...it was amazing. And hopefully we will see more moments like this. And ok I understand that some people just don't want the others to be happy...some selfish people like you...and I hope maybe some day you will undestand that you are not the most importatnt person in the world...and that some people had to wait for so long to finally see their favourite musicans on stage...and if there hadn't been QPR project it wouldn't have happend...
I hope QPR will not finish at this point...and when I look at them they seem to have a lot of fan on stage and so does the audience...anyway nobody knows what will happen...neither Brian Roger and Paul can say for sure what will happen with this project within next few years...so all we can do is wait...and wish them all the best...anyway I somehow get the feeling that we will see the next European tour again one day...:) But if their decide to finish it's ok...all I can say is big thank you to them for what they've done in the last 3-4 years...and I will cherish the memory of the concert I've attended and tell my children this story one day...so do you still think that QPR is so bad?
Saying that one person (I'm avoiding the word "fan" here as much as possible) is an egoist just because he/she disagrees with others (the majority? The minority?) is as stupid and rude as my own comments (according to your oppinion). Egoism is a different thing, with a different meaning. This is what is sickening here - the ability to let people DISAGREE and not be like sheeps that is always lacking among the QPR worshippers, that seem to be even more hardcore and ass-licking fans than those Freddie widows. It's nobody's job to prove which of the "Queens" is better. It would just be nice if we could say "I don't like it".
I know this feeling of "joy" everyone (or those who like QPR at least) feels: it's nostalgia.
I won't explain why I wish it's over, the resulting stone throwing party is too much for me. To resume it in a simple word (which I think is the same feeling of some people that didn't like the whole QPR stuff), I found it "embarassing", to be fair and not rude and to avoid offending sensitive fans even more. The problem is that I say it with an open chest, while others are afraid to do the same because of the fear of not being considered as "fans" anymore.
BTW, the concert in Rio (where they played for one of their biggest audiences ever, if not the biggest - Knebworth probably beat it) wasn't sold out. Yes, blame it on the economical crisis and the outrageous prices of the tickets, not on the band or even Freddie.
I know this feeling of "joy" everyone (or those who like QPR at least) feels: it's nostalgia.
I won't explain why I wish it's over, the resulting stone throwing party is too much for me. To resume it in a simple word (which I think is the same feeling of some people that didn't like the whole QPR stuff), I found it "embarassing", to be fair and not rude and to avoid offending sensitive fans even more. The problem is that I say it with an open chest, while others are afraid to do the same because of the fear of not being considered as "fans" anymore.
BTW, the concert in Rio (where they played for one of their biggest audiences ever, if not the biggest - Knebworth probably beat it) wasn't sold out. Yes, blame it on the economical crisis and the outrageous prices of the tickets, not on the band or even Freddie.
It's not nostalgia. You know what? I didn't have this feeling during their concert...how do you know what other people feel? Did you attend the concert? And even if you went to the concert you can't say what other people felt at all...And embarassing? What is embarassing for you...that they decided to go on tour with Paul and perform the old songs with him? And the new material. They are great musicans so I can't see anything embarassing...Brian's playing or Roger's drumming? Or Paul's voice? Is it really that embarassing?
And I understand pretty well that somebody doesn't like/hate/ can't listen to QPR...but there's a huge difference between saying that you don't like something and wishing that it will finish soon...sorry but for me it is egoistic becouse it's still your point of view that has to be the best...if' it's over a lot of people wouldn't be happy...but it's good for you because you don't like it yes? It's not good for other people but you don't care...and you still say it's not egoistic?...And by the way it's a waste of time really...and i don't want to argue...and convince someone to like Queen and PR. Actually I'm far away from doing this...It's a pity you can't understand it....
And I understand pretty well that somebody doesn't like/hate/ can't listen to QPR...but there's a huge difference between saying that you don't like something and wishing that it will finish soon...sorry but for me it is egoistic becouse it's still your point of view that has to be the best...if' it's over a lot of people wouldn't be happy...but it's good for you because you don't like it yes? It's not good for other people but you don't care...and you still say it's not egoistic?...And by the way it's a waste of time really...and i don't want to argue...and convince someone to like Queen and PR. Actually I'm far away from doing this...It's a pity you can't understand it....
I totally agree with you, justys2, justys.:-))
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[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
Saying that one person (I'm avoiding the word "fan" here as much as possible) is an egoist just because he/she disagrees with others (the majority? The minority?) is as stupid and rude as my own comments (according to your oppinion). Egoism is a different thing, with a different meaning. This is what is sickening here - the ability to let people DISAGREE and not be like sheeps that is always lacking among the QPR worshippers, that seem to be even more hardcore and ass-licking fans than those Freddie widows. It's nobody's job to prove which of the "Queens" is better. It would just be nice if we could say "I don't like it".
I know this feeling of "joy" everyone (or those who like QPR at least) feels: it's nostalgia.
I won't explain why I wish it's over, the resulting stone throwing party is too much for me. To resume it in a simple word (which I think is the same feeling of some people that didn't like the whole QPR stuff), I found it "embarassing", to be fair and not rude and to avoid offending sensitive fans even more. The problem is that I say it with an open chest, while others are afraid to do the same because of the fear of not being considered as "fans" anymore.
BTW, the concert in Rio (where they played for one of their biggest audiences ever, if not the biggest - Knebworth probably beat it) wasn't sold out. Yes, blame it on the economical crisis and the outrageous prices of the tickets, not on the band or even Freddie.
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[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
Saying that one person (I'm avoiding the word "fan" here as much as possible) is an egoist just because he/she disagrees with others (the majority? The minority?) is as stupid and rude as my own comments (according to your oppinion). Egoism is a different thing, with a different meaning. This is what is sickening here - the ability to let people DISAGREE and not be like sheeps that is always lacking among the QPR worshippers, that seem to be even more hardcore and ass-licking fans than those Freddie widows. It's nobody's job to prove which of the "Queens" is better. It would just be nice if we could say "I don't like it".
I know this feeling of "joy" everyone (or those who like QPR at least) feels: it's nostalgia.
I won't explain why I wish it's over, the resulting stone throwing party is too much for me. To resume it in a simple word (which I think is the same feeling of some people that didn't like the whole QPR stuff), I found it "embarassing", to be fair and not rude and to avoid offending sensitive fans even more. The problem is that I say it with an open chest, while others are afraid to do the same because of the fear of not being considered as "fans" anymore.
BTW, the concert in Rio (where they played for one of their biggest audiences ever, if not the biggest - Knebworth probably beat it) wasn't sold out. Yes, blame it on the economical crisis and the outrageous prices of the tickets, not on the band or even Freddie.
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I understand pretty well that somebody doesn't like/hate/ can't listen
to QPR...but there's a huge difference between saying that you don't
like something and wishing that it will finish soon...sorry but for me
it is egoistic becouse it's still your point of view that has to be the
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And isn't it egoistic too to say that they must continue just because Freddie said that "the show must go on" [sic]? If they want to continue, it's their right to do so (and the attempts on that are starting to get countless by now) and there's nothing we (or I) can do about it. But I wish it wouldn't even happened in the first place, and it's my right to do so, egoistic/selfish or not (I see you still have difficulties to understand the meaning of egoism). I didn't say quitting is the right thing for them to do - I'm not Brian's or Roger's dad or consultant or whatever. I just wish they did, though.
To me, as many have said, it's not a pure Paul's bashing as some think. I had never heard his work before and I was amazed by some of Free songs. It's the whole mix that looks and sounds sour and bizarre ("the cap just didn't fit"). If a band has to abandon some of its biggest classics (or you think they will play STL or Killer Queen ever again with this lineup? And many others...) because of the current singer's vocal range... too bad. "OK, let's replace Paul with someone that can do a falsetto and has a softer voice, like George Michael/Mika/whatever, so we can hear these songs again". But... there goes all the rock songs. Face it, whomever gets this job, won't do it right (Freddie's fault!), and they probably have to start from scratch with a real new band - and it's too late I suppose. But they can't have a world tour just playing TCR songs, if they keep using that first part of their (new) band's name.
I'd rather see Brian and Roger alone on the stage singing the songs as they can than all this stuff.
I understand pretty well that somebody doesn't like/hate/ can't listen
to QPR...but there's a huge difference between saying that you don't
like something and wishing that it will finish soon...sorry but for me
it is egoistic becouse it's still your point of view that has to be the
best...[/QUOTE]
And isn't it egoistic too to say that they must continue just because Freddie said that "the show must go on" [sic]? If they want to continue, it's their right to do so (and the attempts on that are starting to get countless by now) and there's nothing we (or I) can do about it. But I wish it wouldn't even happened in the first place, and it's my right to do so, egoistic/selfish or not (I see you still have difficulties to understand the meaning of egoism). I didn't say quitting is the right thing for them to do - I'm not Brian's or Roger's dad or consultant or whatever. I just wish they did, though.
To me, as many have said, it's not a pure Paul's bashing as some think. I had never heard his work before and I was amazed by some of Free songs. It's the whole mix that looks and sounds sour and bizarre ("the cap just didn't fit"). If a band has to abandon some of its biggest classics (or you think they will play STL or Killer Queen ever again with this lineup? And many others...) because of the current singer's vocal range... too bad. "OK, let's replace Paul with someone that can do a falsetto and has a softer voice, like George Michael/Mika/whatever, so we can hear these songs again". But... there goes all the rock songs. Face it, whomever gets this job, won't do it right (Freddie's fault!), and they probably have to start from scratch with a real new band - and it's too late I suppose. But they can't have a world tour just playing TCR songs, if they keep using that first part of their (new) band's name.
I'd rather see Brian and Roger alone on the stage singing the songs as they can than all this stuff.
I saw Queen in 1984 QPR in Cardiff in 2008. there's no real difference between Roger Taylor singing and playing drums on IILWMC at either concert. Am I nostagic? Not really because all I'm seeing is the same song sung by an older guy. I Want It All & Bijou: never performed by Queen live, so no nostalgia there. Furthermore, how can I be nostalgic for all the new QPR songs, which were among the highlights of the show? I've never heard any of Paul Rodger's songs live before so no nostagia there either. (They were great btw). As for 39 -- originally done on LP by Brian, so I would say novelty rather than nostalgia with that one. To be fair, there were one or two moments of nostalgia: Brian doing LOML (which brought a tear to the eye) or BoRap (which was shamelessly and openly harking back to the Freddie era). So what?
Having a different opinion is fine but repeating the same negative crap in every thread is dull. We already know how much some of you hate QPR but unfortuantely for some that's pretty much all you have to say. To quote Vivian from the Young Ones, boring, boring, boring, boring boring. Change the record.
Having a different opinion is fine but repeating the same negative crap in every thread is dull. We already know how much some of you hate QPR but unfortuantely for some that's pretty much all you have to say. To quote Vivian from the Young Ones, boring, boring, boring, boring boring. Change the record.
What to say then, just say things to remember how Queen was good forever and ever? It gets boring too. QPR isn't a forbidden subject, but bad critics are? This is their new work and tour, and it's been discussed as if it was any other record released in the 70's or 80's if we had somewhere as public as a fan forum to express our thoughts. I wonder what would be the posts about HS if we had a forum in 1982... half of the team (maybe more, maybe less) - the hectics - would say it was a masterpiece while the heretics would just comment about the reality.
What is interesting is that the so-called haters don't use names to identify the people that liked QPR, or at least not as often as these others do.
What is interesting is that the so-called haters don't use names to identify the people that liked QPR, or at least not as often as these others do.