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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]
Here we go again ;(
The point - or at least my point - is that those who don;t like QPR pretty much have nothing to say except 'they shouldn't call themselves Queen' or 'I dont like TCR' or perhaps 'They're in it only for the money' -- all of which is fine BUT NOT ON EVERY BLOODY THREAD! (...)
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But what are the other possible reasons to dislike it? Not liking Paul's beard or his shirts? I don't like it purely by its musical content more than anything else.
It might be boring to read about it in every thread, but it is also boring for us "haters of evil" to read some comments treating this project as the 8th wonder or Jesus coming back or something. It is also boring to see the millions of comments saying how Freddie is a genius, how BoRhap is great etc. etc. and these aren't filled with any negativity. Brian and Roger probably are more bored than anyone to answer these same questions over and over about Freddie and Paul as well - but it's their job and they knew it was coming. This forum is a place where fans can (most of the time) express their opinions on all Queen subjects and this is the only place that can store both the good and the bad.
Maybe just the money subject is a bit exaggerated (and stupid and weak), but the others are valid points and have a common root: the new work is subpar, below average not only compared with what they did, but compared to other similar material of other similar bands (I'm waiting for people asking me for valid examples...). To keep it in the topic subject again, if it was all about the money, they wouldn't quit now (maybe it's not selling as expected, but at least there's some money coming in) and maybe they would have started it at least 10 years ago (and possibly John would be involved).
If it is the only possibility to ever hear some Queen material again (which is a valid point though), fine, the sentimental reasons are more than valid. Just don't say it is the best thing in the world when we know it isn't.
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It's possible to be bored without boring everyone else too. Comments about "Freddie was a genius" are dull, but nothing new. However, QPR is new - and when threads start about new concerts, interviews, downloads etc that is interesting to a lot of people here. And those people don't need to hear over and over again how much others hate QPR. It's not relevant, it's repetitive, and it's very, very dull.
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Music is about "feelings" not logical reasons....
Queen+Paul Rodgers=Feelings!!
Queen+Paul Rodgers=Feelings!!
[QUOTE]Comments about "Freddie was a genius" are dull, but nothing new. However, QPR is new -[/QUOTE]
It's new, but it's dull too - just get an average of the "negativity" in these posts and try to get the main reasons people think it's not their cup of tea - almost all the same. And what's wrong (besides saying it over and over) with saying that in the middle of the positive reviews?
If it wasn't for Paul, for sure there won't be many interesting new threads here, and it would be a memorial instead. And it would be much more boring than all these hate X love QPR threads.
Yesterday I saw a video of Under Pressure (can't remember from what concert) and immediately I thought "well Brian and Roger can go on their own if they do it like this". Brian doing that falsetto!... But the problem is that I am sure that they won't have enough "energy" (for the lack of a better word - I don't mean "motivation") to go through a 2 hours concert. If they shorten it, it will be sort of a pocket show of the greatest hits (i.e. a reduced version of Q+PR concerts) and nothing special can be expected. For America and Japan, it might work better than Europe.
It's new, but it's dull too - just get an average of the "negativity" in these posts and try to get the main reasons people think it's not their cup of tea - almost all the same. And what's wrong (besides saying it over and over) with saying that in the middle of the positive reviews?
If it wasn't for Paul, for sure there won't be many interesting new threads here, and it would be a memorial instead. And it would be much more boring than all these hate X love QPR threads.
Yesterday I saw a video of Under Pressure (can't remember from what concert) and immediately I thought "well Brian and Roger can go on their own if they do it like this". Brian doing that falsetto!... But the problem is that I am sure that they won't have enough "energy" (for the lack of a better word - I don't mean "motivation") to go through a 2 hours concert. If they shorten it, it will be sort of a pocket show of the greatest hits (i.e. a reduced version of Q+PR concerts) and nothing special can be expected. For America and Japan, it might work better than Europe.
I dunno why people are kidding themselves; it's cool to see roger and brian sing some songs, especially when they come to the front of the stage and get's a different vibe - but none of them are anywhere NEAR Paul when it comes to vocal abilities
between them, brian and roger have sung a majority of the Queen hits on solo tours, and none of them can hold a candle to paul.
they need paul to pull it off. if they wanna do it without him they should go out as May & Taylor.
between them, brian and roger have sung a majority of the Queen hits on solo tours, and none of them can hold a candle to paul.
they need paul to pull it off. if they wanna do it without him they should go out as May & Taylor.
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[/b]There were times back in the day when you would turn up at a gig and be thinking will Freddie even show up on stage'
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You make it sound as if he was Axl Rose.
[/b]There were times back in the day when you would turn up at a gig and be thinking will Freddie even show up on stage'
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You make it sound as if he was Axl Rose.
Bad Company did a few albums, The Firm did 2 albums, The Law did 2 albums.... I think Rodgers is likely to follow this break in album with a 2nd one. It's a great merger and should only produce more success as time goes on. The setback if there is any would be the somewhat dissapointing Cosmos Rocks which I think is very good but not quite great. It's sales might not be as much, but the tours will gross big profits. What we need to see is a warmed up band that follos up with a much more ambitious 2nd album full of High Production value and a much more May/Taylor heavy sound.
There is no reason to think B and R want to break up this partnership and I can't see a Bad Company reunion and/or solo work for Paul as a profitable or interesting alternative to this supergroup merger.
One thing that would Jazz things up would be a Roy Thomas Baker reunion for a 2nd go in the studio. Queen never did really come full circle with their roots and this would be a very exciting concept at least to me.
There is no reason to think B and R want to break up this partnership and I can't see a Bad Company reunion and/or solo work for Paul as a profitable or interesting alternative to this supergroup merger.
One thing that would Jazz things up would be a Roy Thomas Baker reunion for a 2nd go in the studio. Queen never did really come full circle with their roots and this would be a very exciting concept at least to me.
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You must've seen a different Paul Rodgers then me. The Paul Rodgers I saw shook hands with people in the audiences,always widely smiling, pointing and waving at people in the audience etc etc.
[/QUOTE] Yes, that must be the same Paul Rodgers I saw at all 10 shows :-)
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You must've seen a different Paul Rodgers then me. The Paul Rodgers I saw shook hands with people in the audiences,always widely smiling, pointing and waving at people in the audience etc etc.
[/QUOTE] Yes, that must be the same Paul Rodgers I saw at all 10 shows :-)
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Bad Company did a few albums, The Firm did 2 albums, The Law did 2 albums.... I think Rodgers is likely to follow this break in album with a 2nd one. It's a great merger and should only produce more success as time goes on. The setback if there is any would be the somewhat disappointing Cosmos Rocks which I think is very good but not quite great. It's sales might not be as much, but the tours will gross big profits. What we need to see is a warmed up band that follows up with a much more ambitious 2nd album full of High Production value and a much more May/Taylor heavy sound.
There is no reason to think B and R want to break up this partnership and I can't see a Bad Company reunion and/or solo work for Paul as a profitable or interesting alternative to this supergroup merger.
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That would be an awesome idea...Queen, Paul and Roy Thomas Baker on album #2! Freakin' awesome! I think they're just taking a holiday and feeling out the future, and album #2; I think the whole rumor about them being over is absolute BULLSHIT.
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Bad Company did a few albums, The Firm did 2 albums, The Law did 2 albums.... I think Rodgers is likely to follow this break in album with a 2nd one. It's a great merger and should only produce more success as time goes on. The setback if there is any would be the somewhat disappointing Cosmos Rocks which I think is very good but not quite great. It's sales might not be as much, but the tours will gross big profits. What we need to see is a warmed up band that follows up with a much more ambitious 2nd album full of High Production value and a much more May/Taylor heavy sound.
There is no reason to think B and R want to break up this partnership and I can't see a Bad Company reunion and/or solo work for Paul as a profitable or interesting alternative to this supergroup merger.
One thing that would Jazz things up would be a Roy Thomas Baker reunion for a 2nd go in the studio. Queen never did really come full circle with their roots and this would be a very exciting concept at least to me. [/QUOTE]
That would be an awesome idea...Queen, Paul and Roy Thomas Baker on album #2! Freakin' awesome! I think they're just taking a holiday and feeling out the future, and album #2; I think the whole rumor about them being over is absolute BULLSHIT.
Please, stop playing the nostalgia card anymore! They haven't worked with RTB since the seventies. Why on earth would they want to use him again as a producer?
If they want to be respected as a brand new band (even if they're still Queen) they must now look towards the future and bury the past.
If they want to be respected as a brand new band (even if they're still Queen) they must now look towards the future and bury the past.
If they bring back RTB, will their digital audio station's hard drives become transparent enough before the next album's finished? :-)
Vadenuez: Good point. RTB is no George Martin, really. He's not important enough to be considered Queen's equivalent of the Beatles' "5th member"....I think Spike Edney earned that title long ago :-)
Vadenuez: Good point. RTB is no George Martin, really. He's not important enough to be considered Queen's equivalent of the Beatles' "5th member"....I think Spike Edney earned that title long ago :-)
Maybe they should try RTB Jr (if there is one). It worked with George Martin and Love.
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Maybe they should try RTB Jr (if there is one). It worked with George Martin and Love.
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Lord, no. One "Love" is enough (was good, mind you). Would be another excuse for QPL to milk more of our hard-earned money before we get a proper release of something more in line with what us fans really want *cough cough*
Besides, I can't see them dumping Justin Shirley-Smith and co. anytime soon. That guy's been with them for quite a long time now (early 90's I believe), and obviously they're quite comfortable with him.
I STILL think, however, should they choose to embark on another + project, I'd like to see them team up with Utada Hikaru :-)
[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
Maybe they should try RTB Jr (if there is one). It worked with George Martin and Love.
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Lord, no. One "Love" is enough (was good, mind you). Would be another excuse for QPL to milk more of our hard-earned money before we get a proper release of something more in line with what us fans really want *cough cough*
Besides, I can't see them dumping Justin Shirley-Smith and co. anytime soon. That guy's been with them for quite a long time now (early 90's I believe), and obviously they're quite comfortable with him.
I STILL think, however, should they choose to embark on another + project, I'd like to see them team up with Utada Hikaru :-)
What's to stop them from making another album? Or for any of them from making more solo albums? The whole way artists distribute their work has changed in the past 2-3 years, and they could simply put it online.
Paul Rodgers does seem to like to move from one project to another, and so yeah, maybe this will be over, and sooner rather than later. I don't think it will be anything dramatic when it does end.
I think the whole project has been a great way to see and hear Roger and Brian play and sing, and be onstage with someone who isn't drowned out of the mix when they turn it up to 11, as has been the case with so many one-off vocalists they're worked with. For that I am thankful. That it keeps them playing I am thankful.
Paul Rodgers does seem to like to move from one project to another, and so yeah, maybe this will be over, and sooner rather than later. I don't think it will be anything dramatic when it does end.
I think the whole project has been a great way to see and hear Roger and Brian play and sing, and be onstage with someone who isn't drowned out of the mix when they turn it up to 11, as has been the case with so many one-off vocalists they're worked with. For that I am thankful. That it keeps them playing I am thankful.
If they try it again and with RTB, the first part of the album's name should be "A nightmare at... (Protools?)". Vocal harmonies with Paul? Forget it.
I was reading some interviews and articles about him other day... in The Darkness album he said they probably had around 1000 guitar tracks at some point, and he "cut it down" to "just" 72 for certain songs. All this in a Queen clone album. Imagine in the real thing.
I was reading some interviews and articles about him other day... in The Darkness album he said they probably had around 1000 guitar tracks at some point, and he "cut it down" to "just" 72 for certain songs. All this in a Queen clone album. Imagine in the real thing.
Well who cares about PR?It´s a 2 years line-up,with no big hits,the only important thing was that they tour and we could see Brian and Roger,as long as Rog and Bri keep on making new music,Paul Rodgers can go on tour to Jamaica,Singapur,Afganistan or make 20 new solo albums,it wouldn´t change my life at all.