Indeed, stranger things have happened as far as recordings disappearing, showing up, disappearing again... for the moment I merely lean towards taking Brian at his word because (regardless of what may have been recorded in the past) it would seem that at the moment, nothing exists; or at least, it can't be found.
I have been told about the little snippets of the big screen being shown in mash-ups before, but haven't actually seen any of them. When were they used?
Ken8 · Member since
IIRC, the shot of Fred ripping a plastic bag off his head is one, and the shot of him striding up and down the stage's stairs (during Tear It Up) is another.
As for losing material, Queen have nothing on the BBC, who have erased and lost hundreds of classic shows and programs!
jadedlady · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
IIRC, the shot of Fred ripping a plastic bag off his head is one, and the shot of him striding up and down the stage's stairs (during Tear It Up) is another.
As for losing material, Queen have nothing on the BBC, who have erased and lost hundreds of classic shows and programs!
[/QUOTE]
Oh jeez, thats quite a shame. All that just gone[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_down.gif][/img] .
Does anyone know why the BBC erased so much? I bet they are kicking themselves now.
john bodega · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
As for losing material, Queen have nothing on the BBC, who have erased and lost hundreds of classic shows and programs!
[/QUOTE]
It's absurd, isn't it??
thequeen · Member since
There's only ONE thing that is absurd in this thread .... YOU don't know HALF of what's in the archives
Please let's forget about wich GB has provided us with quite a while ago ... this is just the tip of the iceberg
You don't have to take my word .... the time will come that QProduktions for once will be very interested
in such footage .... you ALL know why don't you ?
thequeen · Member since
For the people who haven't got a clue :
GB likes to compare Queen(productions) and their whereabouts (including himself) with a bank ...nuff said !
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
For instance I know a Sydney 85 Works show was recorded in full by The Nine Network. The intro and "Ga Ga" were all that were shown (I uploaded them here years ago), but the full OB crew covered that entire show.
[/QUOTE]
Interesting.. thanks for the info. That's the 4-25-85 show.
>Back to Knebworth, there are shots inserted into DoRo mashups that[b] [/b]match the shots in my bootleg copy. It defies logic to just record a minute here and a minute there.
Of course. But that doesn't necessarily mean all the footage has survived the test of time, or that it has been located in the archives. Remember who was hired to take care of these things...
What exact clips are you referring to?
>When it comes to what's in the vaults, frankly I'd take anything Brian says with a pinch of salt. I get the feeling shows like Sydney, Knebworth and who knows what else may have "fallen behind a desk" as far as anyone at QPL are concerned
You're probably right. But for now, I just assume that what someone close to the band (or in the band - http://www.brianmay.com/brian/brianssb/brianssbaug06a.html) says is true unless otherwise proven, as opposed to doubting without the evidence to back it up. But your logic is certainly hard to beat.
You have a PM...
thequeen · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]thequeen wrote: [/b]
There's only ONE thing that is absurd in this thread .... YOU don't know HALF of what's in the archives
Please let's forget about wich GB has provided us with quite a while ago ... this is just the tip of the iceberg
You don't have to take my word .... the time will come that QProduktions for once will be very interested
in such footage .... you ALL know why don't you ?[/QUOTE]
thequeen · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]thequeen wrote: [/b]
For the people who haven't got a clue :
GB likes to compare Queen(productions) and their whereabouts (including himself) with a bank ...nuff said ![/QUOTE]
Ken8 · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]jadedlady wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
IIRC, the shot of Fred ripping a plastic bag off his head is one, and the shot of him striding up and down the stage's stairs (during Tear It Up) is another.
As for losing material, Queen have nothing on the BBC, who have erased and lost hundreds of classic shows and programs!
[/QUOTE]
Oh jeez, thats quite a shame. All that just gone[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_down.gif][/img] .
Does anyone know why the BBC erased so much? I bet they are kicking themselves now.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they've been kicking themselves since the advent of home video and multi channel satellite TV.
They literally erased the tapes for re-use! Then went so far as to burn or destroy film copies of shows struck for international sales because they thought at the time there was no value in them.
Many shows only survive thanks to film collectors finding reels in various places and car boot sales!
Ken8 · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Sir GH wrote:[/b]
But that doesn't necessarily mean all the footage has survived the test of time, or that it has been located in the archives. Remember who was hired to take care of these things...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, nuff said!
thequeen · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]jadedlady wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
IIRC, the shot of Fred ripping a plastic bag off his head is one, and the shot of him striding up and down the stage's stairs (during Tear It Up) is another.
As for losing material, Queen have nothing on the BBC, who have erased and lost hundreds of classic shows and programs!
[/QUOTE]
Oh jeez, thats quite a shame. All that just gone[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_down.gif][/img] .
Does anyone know why the BBC erased so much? I bet they are kicking themselves now.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they've been kicking themselves since the advent of home video and multi channel satellite TV.
They literally erased the tapes for re-use! Then went so far as to burn or destroy film copies of shows struck for international sales because they thought at the time there was no value in them.
Many shows only survive thanks to film collectors finding reels in various places and car boot sales!
[/QUOTE]
Yes , like me for example [img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img]
thequeen · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]jadedlady wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
IIRC, the shot of Fred ripping a plastic bag off his head is one, and the shot of him striding up and down the stage's stairs (during Tear It Up) is another.
As for losing material, Queen have nothing on the BBC, who have erased and lost hundreds of classic shows and programs!
[/QUOTE]
Oh jeez, thats quite a shame. All that just gone[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_down.gif][/img] .
Does anyone know why the BBC erased so much? I bet they are kicking themselves now.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they've been kicking themselves since the advent of home video and multi channel satellite TV.
They literally erased the tapes for re-use! Then went so far as to burn or destroy film copies of shows struck for international sales because they thought at the time there was no value in them.
Many shows only survive thanks to film collectors finding reels in various places and car boot sales!
[/QUOTE]
Yes YES ! Collectors like me ....
on my way up · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Sir GH wrote:[/b]
Brian says the video screen wasn't recorded, so it's just a matter of what other little bits of footage remain.
[/QUOTE]
But it was recorded. If you went to that length in regards to the big screen shoot, you'd record it, all of it. Tape is pretty cheap when you've invested that much. Believe me, I've worked on a few of these type of things for international acts, and they are all recorded. Even if just for the act to see back. For instance I know a Sydney 85 Works show was recorded in full by The Nine Network. The intro and "Ga Ga" were all that were shown (I uploaded them here years ago), but the full OB crew covered that entire show.
Back to Knebworth, there are shots inserted into DoRo mashups that match the shots in my bootleg copy. It defies logic to just record a minute here and a minute there.
When it comes to what's in the vaults, frankly I'd take anything Brian says with a pinch of salt. I get the feeling shows like Sydney, Knebworth and who knows what else may have "fallen behind a desk" as far as anyone at QPL are concerned
[/QUOTE]
Wow, I hope we ever get to see that Sydney footage! That are the kind of things I'd like to see :-)(if such things from the seventies exist eve more so!)
Concerning Knebworth: I think the same as you. Brooks came here and hinted strongly that we can one day expect something nice from Knebworth. He made clear he couldn't tell us more about it.
I think that Greg's posts here prove one thing: he isn't allowed to say anything at all. He has to make sure the fans remain interested and so from time to time there's some nice info but he can deny it the next week if needed.
And there are many examples: in his Queen Live book he states he listened to many 1979 Live Killers shows (and also Crazy tour shows by the way) and when coming here he can't give details about Live Killers because that stuff hasn't been listened to in years....
Did anyone else think his list of filmed concerts was lauhing us in the face? It was just a big joke. Hammy'75 was not even included and we all know they almost released it:-) Brussels'79 etc.
And in that list there was Knebworth too and Manchester'86 and Slane.....
We Are The Champions · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]macman223 wrote: [/b]
One of my favorite live albums is Live Magic!
A Majority of the songs are from the Knebworth Concert
But the audio is completely remastered, It's Incredable! I'm dieing to know
how the heck do they remaster the audio to the unbelievable quality as heard in Live Magic!
I know guys can share your comments and help me on this one.
Thanks!
[/QUOTE]
All the technicalities, arguments etc aside, Live Magic is a diabolical, waste of time, rushed, bloddy rip off of an album!! Has to be one of the worst live albums ever released!! Quality may be good but it's a butchered, edited mess of songs from Queens last ever concert with the exception of 2 songs I think. Was released following the phenomenal demand for the Magic Tour.
Would have worked much better as a double CD and released years later with more time and effort! 2 CD releases were not the norm back in 1986 . A quick buck of an effort. Enough said.
Maybe this could have been released as Queen Final Live 86 Knebworth and skipped the Wembley tracks altogether.
