DT are skilled but i have yet to hear 1 good catchy song by them.
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They don't write catchy songs... with the possible exception of Pull Me Under, which was actually a moderate hit.
That said, who says their songs have to be catchy? Are you suggesting that catchy hooks are the only thing that can make a song a good song?
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Yes of course, a good song is a catchy song and they cant write one therfor they arent a good band.
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Obvioulsy there are millions of fans that don't agree with that. I am not a fan of theirs, but i wouldn't say they are not a good band. I think they are great, just not exactly my taste. Grow up you close minded fool.
zedan · Member since
Well I allow myslef to join in the discussion. Queen being my all-time fave, and myself being a huge Dream Theater fan for more than 15 years now, I was a bit scared when I heard DT was going to cover these songs. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]Once I was able to get my hands on it my feeling was this : Musically it's well played, as always : great musicianship and I liked the double kick drums pattern during Flick Of The Wrist, though I tend to think that Mike Portnoy overplays for ages now. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]Good point on this cover is John Petrucci's guitar, he just plays what the song requires. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]Problem is not really vocals. James LaBrie's vocals are most of the time ok. Here these are average (and I have problems with his "and your mad" ) but he definitely doesn't play on the same level as Freddie. Or to compare to vocalists who ever dared to cover Queen songs : Robby Valentine, Valensia, Damian Wilson or who sounds like Queen (Mac from Threshold)[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]what really piss me off in this cover are Mike Portnoy's backing vocals. here again I like his voice but it doesn't fit the songs his BV's lack power and IMO it definitely ruins the song. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]It's a personal point of view here but I tend to think that this cover is just Portnoy's whim… [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
*goodco* · Member since
to Sir GH: regarding the PN 2009 warm up bands, I am looking forward to the Zappa Meets Zappa as well. As to the others.....no thanks. Also, for their one-off appearance in Columbia, MD, not too excited about Queensryche for some odd reason. Considering DT and Qryche didn't exactly hit it off well on their shared headlining tour a few years back, not sure this is such a good idea.
Going back to the Queen covers for a minute. Since these versions are so 'bare bones', I wonder if the 'no synthesizers' line will be included in the liner notes.
I do recall the LaBrie 'One Vision' cover mentioned as well. Will have to dig through the pile and wipe off the years of dust since I last listened to it. Now, the FBG bluegrass version on that disk I do remember. And enjoyed, for some odd reason.
LucTonnerre · Member since
I just heard the whole piece. Well, what can I say? DT are good musicians, no doubt, but it always seems to me that they lack any kind of soul. It's just technique with them.I know that you can't do it any better than QUEEN did, but why bother anyway?[/QUOTE]The singer is a bit too "metal" for me and the backing vocals that Portnoy is sooooo proud of are just crap AND WRONG![/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]Some of the guitar harmonies in LILY OF THE VALLEY are also just plain wrong considering harmony rules.[/QUOTE]Over all the guitars sound like plastic. Not a good sound after all.[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]Ok, I've heard it and propably won't give it another go.[/QUOTE]
zedan · Member since
I'll generally second your post Luc. I didn't mention Lily of the Valley … but LaBrie's opera take is just fake. His falsetto doesn't spontaneous. Don't get me wrong everyone but I heard LaBrie in better contexts and here, it just doesn't work. I'm not spitting on him… seen the man dozen times live, and I truly apprecitate him, so I guess it says it all. [/QUOTE]
Rho-d Berth · Member since
Catchy songs from Dream Theater:
- Another Day
- Pull me under
- Wait for sleep
- Lifting shadows of a dream
- space-dye-vest
- hollow years
- take away my pain
- through her eyes
- one last time
- goodnight kiss
- solitary shell
- I walk besides you
- the ministry of lost souls+
The Real Wizard · Member since
A thought to add...
Like them or not, Dream Theater have made it in North America, South America, Europe, and Japan.
How many other artists can say that? Can we even name 5?
Saif · Member since
I listened to the track and it's awesome. One of the best Queen covers but I can see where people might disagree. They covered it to the best of their abilities, in my opinion. A lot of people say that these guys play with no soul. I don't agree but they seem to give of this vibe to a lot of people. I played it to my brother who likes neither band and he says "these guys don't play it like they mean it", whatever that means. :(
*goodco* · Member since
Nice little two minute description of the medley by Mike Portnoy at
DT are skilled but i have yet to hear 1 good catchy song by them.
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They don't write catchy songs... with the possible exception of Pull Me Under, which was actually a moderate hit.
That said, who says their songs have to be catchy? Are you suggesting that catchy hooks are the only thing that can make a song a good song?
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Yes of course, a good song is a catchy song and they cant write one therfor they arent a good band.
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Obvioulsy there are millions of fans that don't agree with that. I am not a fan of theirs, but i wouldn't say they are not a good band. I think they are great, just not exactly my taste. Grow up you close minded fool.
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Im just telling it as it is, they cant write catchy songs= not a good band= fact.
The Real Wizard · Member since
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not a good band= fact.
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In your opinion. Your opinion of what makes a good piece of music is not a universally undebatable fact.
Just so you know, they produce their records themselves and have no outside writers, meaning they have complete creative control of their music. So you can't blame the crappy major labels for churning out another lousy band. Maybe they won't go down in history as one of the greatest bands ever, but with fans on six continents, they have one of the most widespread fan bases in the history of music... a kind of success that isn't measured in dollars and cents or record sales, but in respect and appreciation for their art.
Treasure Moment · Member since
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[b]Treasure Moment wrote: [/b]
not a good band= fact.
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In your opinion. Your opinion of what makes a good piece of music is not a universally undebatable fact.
Just so you know, they produce their records themselves and have no outside writers, meaning they have complete creative control of their music. So you can't blame the crappy major labels for churning out another lousy band. Maybe they won't go down in history as one of the greatest bands ever, but with fans on six continents, they have one of the most widespread fan bases in the history of music... a kind of success that isn't measured in dollars and cents or record sales, but in respect and appreciation for their art.
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I have respect for them when it comes to skills but not as songwriters, the whole purpose of making songs is to make something catchy and emotional, something they cant from the songs ive heard.
The Real Wizard · Member since
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[b]Treasure Moment wrote: [/b]
the whole purpose of making songs is to make something catchy and emotional
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Who came up with this rule of thumb, and when? Most of the world of music seems to have missed it...
zedan · Member since
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]Treasure Moment wrote: [/b]
the whole purpose of making songs is to make something catchy and emotional
[/QUOTE] Who came up with this rule of thumb, and when? Most of the world of music seems to have missed it...
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I agree here with Sir GH : I missed it and so did LOAD of musicians. Music can be catchy and emotional in so many aspects besides the 3'30 song format…
