Sebastian
Yes, of course it's OK, he can do what he wants. But so can we: if we want to criticise him (and Roger), we can do it.
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Holly2003
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[b]vadenuez wrote: [/b]
I'm not sure if Lambert has any musical background or if he can write music, anyway if he doesn't it'll mean that Brian and Roger will be hiring him to hit some high notes so they'll be able to recreate more Queen songs for future concerts. In a word, they'll probably turn into their own official tribute band. They're free to do so, of course but I won't be interested in whatever they do anymore. There are thousands of new bands out there who are coming out with very interesting new music, so I fail to see the point of sticking to a couple of middle age men who are trying to recreate something they'll never get to do again, with a fake version of their former singer.
God, the actual Queen seems to be millions of years away from the days when they gave birth to gems like The March of the Black Queen or Spread Your Wings.
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Dude, those days are long gone and theyr'e not coming back whatever lead singer they use.
The best we can hope for is a little surprise every now and again. When I saw them in Cardif there were some genuinely emotional moments -- the new version of 39, Brian singing LOML, Roger singing AKOM. Some Things That Glitter is brilliant on TCR. Lower your expectations a bit though: there won't be any more albums like Queen II or ADATR, and no more shows like Houston or Earl's Court. And I think that would be teh case even if Fred was still alive and still lead singer.
[b]vadenuez wrote: [/b]
I'm not sure if Lambert has any musical background or if he can write music, anyway if he doesn't it'll mean that Brian and Roger will be hiring him to hit some high notes so they'll be able to recreate more Queen songs for future concerts. In a word, they'll probably turn into their own official tribute band. They're free to do so, of course but I won't be interested in whatever they do anymore. There are thousands of new bands out there who are coming out with very interesting new music, so I fail to see the point of sticking to a couple of middle age men who are trying to recreate something they'll never get to do again, with a fake version of their former singer.
God, the actual Queen seems to be millions of years away from the days when they gave birth to gems like The March of the Black Queen or Spread Your Wings.
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Dude, those days are long gone and theyr'e not coming back whatever lead singer they use.
The best we can hope for is a little surprise every now and again. When I saw them in Cardif there were some genuinely emotional moments -- the new version of 39, Brian singing LOML, Roger singing AKOM. Some Things That Glitter is brilliant on TCR. Lower your expectations a bit though: there won't be any more albums like Queen II or ADATR, and no more shows like Houston or Earl's Court. And I think that would be teh case even if Fred was still alive and still lead singer.
Sheer Brass Neck
As a long time defender of Queen and their earlier works in general, I love how people find fault with people who find fault with Brian, Roger, Jim Beach, QP, etc. Roger said that Radiohead used to write great songs, then they stuck their heads up their asses or something similar. If I were Thom Yorke, I'd wonder how the guy who wrote Londow Town, C'mon Down, and A Nation of Haircuts would get the nerve to criticize anyone's songwriting after writing songs like those. But he's Roger so he can slam Radiohead and Coldplay, but it's okay 'cos it's Roger!
[/QUOTE]As for Brian, he has harped about disposable TV reality shows on numerous occasions. He balked particularly at Rock Star INXS, and said Queen would never do something like that, as it was unfair to the talent and not a good way to pick a singer. So now, he thinks it's okay? That's disingenuous at best, hypocritical at worst. Brian rails against anyone who doesn't see the world in his terms (see smoking, killing hedgehogs, light pollution, critics of the musical), but loves people who do (the guy who wrote the rather excellent Flash Gordon soundtrack article, people who praise WWRY.) But in the 80s in a guitar magazine, Brian shat all over the second album from the Paul Butterfield Blues band, saying they'd lost their way completely after their first album, which he loved. So is it okay for Brian to criticize other musicians, critics, TV shows etc., but be above criticism when his fan base thinks he (and Roger) have made another poor decision? If we're all apologists, then we'll get shit like 5ive, and reissueafter reissue after reissue after... [/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]As for Brian, he has harped about disposable TV reality shows on numerous occasions. He balked particularly at Rock Star INXS, and said Queen would never do something like that, as it was unfair to the talent and not a good way to pick a singer. So now, he thinks it's okay? That's disingenuous at best, hypocritical at worst. Brian rails against anyone who doesn't see the world in his terms (see smoking, killing hedgehogs, light pollution, critics of the musical), but loves people who do (the guy who wrote the rather excellent Flash Gordon soundtrack article, people who praise WWRY.) But in the 80s in a guitar magazine, Brian shat all over the second album from the Paul Butterfield Blues band, saying they'd lost their way completely after their first album, which he loved. So is it okay for Brian to criticize other musicians, critics, TV shows etc., but be above criticism when his fan base thinks he (and Roger) have made another poor decision? If we're all apologists, then we'll get shit like 5ive, and reissueafter reissue after reissue after... [/QUOTE]
Daniel Nester
I agree. We're fans, not worshippers.
I just disagree with these criticisms.
Believe you me, I've got plenty of critical opinions about things Queen.
Just not this one, and most other one's that center around alleged legacy-ruining.
I just disagree with these criticisms.
Believe you me, I've got plenty of critical opinions about things Queen.
Just not this one, and most other one's that center around alleged legacy-ruining.
Dusta
I admit I have never watched AI until I was at the home of a friend, and, it was on the tube. I heard Mr Lambert sing, and, I admit I got goosebumps. I think he has an absolutely brilliant voice. Really caught my attention, and, I wanted to hear more.
As far as performing with Queen...guess I'm neutral. I got over the Rodgers thing, and, I have to say I'd much rather hear this Lambert fellow sing Queen songs than Mr Rodgers(and, I am a BIG fan of Rodgers--go figure. It's a personal preference), so, no doubt I'd get over this as well. I might even like it. Maybe this is just the thing they need to inspire some Queenish new material? Who knows.
Love, Dusta
As far as performing with Queen...guess I'm neutral. I got over the Rodgers thing, and, I have to say I'd much rather hear this Lambert fellow sing Queen songs than Mr Rodgers(and, I am a BIG fan of Rodgers--go figure. It's a personal preference), so, no doubt I'd get over this as well. I might even like it. Maybe this is just the thing they need to inspire some Queenish new material? Who knows.
Love, Dusta
Yara
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[b]Donna13 wrote: [/b]
When I first saw Adam on the show I immediately thought that he would be the typical person that they would want to hire for WWRY. He had that fake rock star look (the clothing and hair) - like an actor playing a rock star. I haven't seen WWRY, but I've seen the cast performing on the Tonight Show (I think it was the Tonight Show and I think I saw that unless I was dreaming or something - ha) - and so I get the general idea of what they are doing with that production. (I would like to see WWRY eventually.)
But ... that fake rock star thing was my first impression only. When I watched his performances during the season, he got more and more impressive to me. That was because of his musical abilities, compared to everyone else - not his look. He had very good arrangements to the songs and his voice could be beautiful on some of the songs. I think he overdoes that yelling thing on some songs, but that could be taken care of with some good musical direction. He never made any mistakes. He seems very quick and bright and cheerful, and comfortable on stage. His performances were the only ones this season that I wanted to watch more than once. So, he became like a real rock star to me and I found myself only looking forward to his performances during the show. Now that the show is over, I'm not sure how exciting he will seem. If he is on TV, I will watch it, for sure.
Everyone is speculating so I will too. I think that first of all Brian was probably impressed by this guy's talent. He rehearsed with him briefly, and so I guess he was able to assess the situation quickly. And maybe he has been interested in Adam's performances this year with regard to WWRY (a possible Broadway production maybe?). I think the close timing of the announcement of Paul's departure (by Paul) and then Brian saying this kid, Adam, is talented and he would like to work with him in the future is what is getting everyone so upset. They think that Brian and Roger are desiring to re-create the type of relationship they had with Paul, with touring, etc. I doubt if that is the case at this point.[/QUOTE]
Ah, hi, Donna13! I missed your posts so much! I hope you're doing just fine.
I love your posts. This one was no exception. You seem to be a very bright person and you write wonderfully well.
I just wanna thank you for coming by and contributing to the thread. It's a delight.
Take care and have a wonderful day!
Yara
[b]Donna13 wrote: [/b]
When I first saw Adam on the show I immediately thought that he would be the typical person that they would want to hire for WWRY. He had that fake rock star look (the clothing and hair) - like an actor playing a rock star. I haven't seen WWRY, but I've seen the cast performing on the Tonight Show (I think it was the Tonight Show and I think I saw that unless I was dreaming or something - ha) - and so I get the general idea of what they are doing with that production. (I would like to see WWRY eventually.)
But ... that fake rock star thing was my first impression only. When I watched his performances during the season, he got more and more impressive to me. That was because of his musical abilities, compared to everyone else - not his look. He had very good arrangements to the songs and his voice could be beautiful on some of the songs. I think he overdoes that yelling thing on some songs, but that could be taken care of with some good musical direction. He never made any mistakes. He seems very quick and bright and cheerful, and comfortable on stage. His performances were the only ones this season that I wanted to watch more than once. So, he became like a real rock star to me and I found myself only looking forward to his performances during the show. Now that the show is over, I'm not sure how exciting he will seem. If he is on TV, I will watch it, for sure.
Everyone is speculating so I will too. I think that first of all Brian was probably impressed by this guy's talent. He rehearsed with him briefly, and so I guess he was able to assess the situation quickly. And maybe he has been interested in Adam's performances this year with regard to WWRY (a possible Broadway production maybe?). I think the close timing of the announcement of Paul's departure (by Paul) and then Brian saying this kid, Adam, is talented and he would like to work with him in the future is what is getting everyone so upset. They think that Brian and Roger are desiring to re-create the type of relationship they had with Paul, with touring, etc. I doubt if that is the case at this point.[/QUOTE]
Ah, hi, Donna13! I missed your posts so much! I hope you're doing just fine.
I love your posts. This one was no exception. You seem to be a very bright person and you write wonderfully well.
I just wanna thank you for coming by and contributing to the thread. It's a delight.
Take care and have a wonderful day!
Yara
Sebastian
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[b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/b]
As a long time defender of Queen and their earlier works in general, I love how people find fault with people who find fault with Brian, Roger, Jim Beach, QP, etc. Roger said that Radiohead used to write great songs, then they stuck their heads up their asses or something similar. If I were Thom Yorke, I'd wonder how the guy who wrote Londow Town, C'mon Down, and A Nation of Haircuts would get the nerve to criticize anyone's songwriting after writing songs like those. But he's Roger so he can slam Radiohead and Coldplay, but it's okay 'cos it's Roger!
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Great post, and I totally agree: if we're not entitled to criticise Adam (and btw I'm not slamming him at all) because we can't sing like him or because we haven't won AI, then Bri should shut up about newspapers unless he owns one for decades.
[b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/b]
As a long time defender of Queen and their earlier works in general, I love how people find fault with people who find fault with Brian, Roger, Jim Beach, QP, etc. Roger said that Radiohead used to write great songs, then they stuck their heads up their asses or something similar. If I were Thom Yorke, I'd wonder how the guy who wrote Londow Town, C'mon Down, and A Nation of Haircuts would get the nerve to criticize anyone's songwriting after writing songs like those. But he's Roger so he can slam Radiohead and Coldplay, but it's okay 'cos it's Roger!
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Great post, and I totally agree: if we're not entitled to criticise Adam (and btw I'm not slamming him at all) because we can't sing like him or because we haven't won AI, then Bri should shut up about newspapers unless he owns one for decades.
Daniel Nester
Gotta admit, I am losing the logic here in this last exchange.
Roger criticizing Radiohead is not the same as people on a fan board dissing Adam Lambert. Right? Or maybe I am just confused.
That's Roger being Roger, I suppose. I think Radiohead kinda sucks, so I suppose I am on his side.
Roger criticizing Radiohead is not the same as people on a fan board dissing Adam Lambert. Right? Or maybe I am just confused.
That's Roger being Roger, I suppose. I think Radiohead kinda sucks, so I suppose I am on his side.
Daniel Nester
Regarding the Adam Lambert = goosebumps post.
I got them, too.
I have to admit that I really yearn for a singer-singer, someone with a crazy and dramatic voice, to come along and sing rock music, hard rock music. So many vocalists just fail to light my fire these days.
Has anyone heard of or heard Antony and the Johnsons? I used to think I could listen to them and get some of my theatrical voice fix from him/them.
Then there was The Darkness, which I guess satisfied my yearning somewhat.
Mika I guess falls into that slot, but I didn't buy his CD.
And I suppose Adam Lambert, as I watched the show every week, made me feel this way. I think he can sing. I think he's a bit dramatic and showtunes-y, but what makes him interesting, to me, is that he wants to sing rock. Not show tunes, not opera or whatever, but rock. And hard rock at that.
So that makes him even more interesting to me.
I got them, too.
I have to admit that I really yearn for a singer-singer, someone with a crazy and dramatic voice, to come along and sing rock music, hard rock music. So many vocalists just fail to light my fire these days.
Has anyone heard of or heard Antony and the Johnsons? I used to think I could listen to them and get some of my theatrical voice fix from him/them.
Then there was The Darkness, which I guess satisfied my yearning somewhat.
Mika I guess falls into that slot, but I didn't buy his CD.
And I suppose Adam Lambert, as I watched the show every week, made me feel this way. I think he can sing. I think he's a bit dramatic and showtunes-y, but what makes him interesting, to me, is that he wants to sing rock. Not show tunes, not opera or whatever, but rock. And hard rock at that.
So that makes him even more interesting to me.
Yara
I have really no prob with Adam Lambert. I think he's a good singer and may improve as a musician over time.
The only thing which is a bit boring to me is, as always, the politics of music, which I'm really not interested in and it bores me a bit when artists engage in this kind of thing.
I'd have no problem with Queen going to American Idol. I don't have any, as many Queenzoners know, with Queen having played Sun City, which by all standards, if I were more interested in the politics of music than I actually am, is far worse than showing up in American Idol.
I'd have no problem if it were not for the constant pasteurized cliched criticisms of the "system", "the making of celebrities" and all the self-promotion done with "charity" and so on - marketing other people's suffering and turning it into sentimental songs which add nothing to the understanding of the problems is a bit ugly, I think, and more than that: it generates, to my personal taste, bad music. Brian May is no Bob Dylan. He can't do what Bob or Neil Young did. He was good at...playing his guitar and composing songs about inner feelings, love and so on. Writing a song about nuclear threat once, ok, that's nice - Hammer to Fall is a good song - but when he begins criticizing the "state of affairs" and the "dominant culture" and insisting on it, the same culture which allows Queen to be a famous act, by the way, I really get a bit uninterested. Not angry, not sad: just uninterested.
Plus: I really think, I'm not kidding :op, I really think that they should feel honored for featuring in American Idol, which is a show watched by hundreds of thousands of people - what have they been doing to deserve such publicity?
When people asked me whether I thought it was wrong of them to call themselves Queen, I always answered NO. Not at all. That's what's left of the band - but then I added, when arguing with many people here: what's left is, to my humble taste, BAD. It's bad music. All bands get their latest releases compared to the early stuff - sometimes favorably, sometimes not, and this is all entertainment and fun, it's rock music, it "tarnishes the legacy" in the sense that it's not as good musically as the previous stuff, but there are [b]no[/b] [b]moral[/b] implications to it.
It's been more than 15 years since Freddie passed away and Brian and Roger managed to amount to absolutely nothing. They used to be shining stars from a legendary band. Now they're...zero, they have, by themselves, as post-Queen artists, no relevance - all that they have done which is worthy was done with Queen.
That's why Adam sang We Are The Champions, and not C-Lebrity.
There were people who were good at combining social criticism and music: Dylan, Neil Young, Lennon. There are those who, to my taste, just can't: Queen, U2...and they do sound as if they were transforming the idea of "fighting injustice" into a commodity and selling it.
Ever since I began studying music, I've been dealing with composers and musical trends which are alternative even among erudite circles. I like it. I enjoy it and it satisfies me. I have a lot of joy playing or singing this kind of stuff. But I don't claim I'm doing anything superior - I'm doing something different. Music can, and I think has to be too, lighter entertainment.
When I'm not handling music as a profession, I like it to be about entertainment, fun or things about the everyday life we all can relate do - I like it to be just like Queen's Jazz or A Day At The Races. It may move you not through exploring people's suffering in a sentimental way which doesn't help thinking and sounds absolutely fake - the hungry mouths we have to feed... - but rather through everyday life experience we can all relate to - for instance, Somebody To Life. Spread Your Wings.
And I specially like it when the people doing it, that is, doing music like this - as entertainment -, just like Freddie did, deliver what they promise to do: giving us a good time.
It's more than enough. :-)))
Thank you all for the wonderful thread and the great contributions.
Above all, and as always, thank you for taking your time to impart your experiences and knowledge.
It's an honor to be part of the website! :-)
Yara
The only thing which is a bit boring to me is, as always, the politics of music, which I'm really not interested in and it bores me a bit when artists engage in this kind of thing.
I'd have no problem with Queen going to American Idol. I don't have any, as many Queenzoners know, with Queen having played Sun City, which by all standards, if I were more interested in the politics of music than I actually am, is far worse than showing up in American Idol.
I'd have no problem if it were not for the constant pasteurized cliched criticisms of the "system", "the making of celebrities" and all the self-promotion done with "charity" and so on - marketing other people's suffering and turning it into sentimental songs which add nothing to the understanding of the problems is a bit ugly, I think, and more than that: it generates, to my personal taste, bad music. Brian May is no Bob Dylan. He can't do what Bob or Neil Young did. He was good at...playing his guitar and composing songs about inner feelings, love and so on. Writing a song about nuclear threat once, ok, that's nice - Hammer to Fall is a good song - but when he begins criticizing the "state of affairs" and the "dominant culture" and insisting on it, the same culture which allows Queen to be a famous act, by the way, I really get a bit uninterested. Not angry, not sad: just uninterested.
Plus: I really think, I'm not kidding :op, I really think that they should feel honored for featuring in American Idol, which is a show watched by hundreds of thousands of people - what have they been doing to deserve such publicity?
When people asked me whether I thought it was wrong of them to call themselves Queen, I always answered NO. Not at all. That's what's left of the band - but then I added, when arguing with many people here: what's left is, to my humble taste, BAD. It's bad music. All bands get their latest releases compared to the early stuff - sometimes favorably, sometimes not, and this is all entertainment and fun, it's rock music, it "tarnishes the legacy" in the sense that it's not as good musically as the previous stuff, but there are [b]no[/b] [b]moral[/b] implications to it.
It's been more than 15 years since Freddie passed away and Brian and Roger managed to amount to absolutely nothing. They used to be shining stars from a legendary band. Now they're...zero, they have, by themselves, as post-Queen artists, no relevance - all that they have done which is worthy was done with Queen.
That's why Adam sang We Are The Champions, and not C-Lebrity.
There were people who were good at combining social criticism and music: Dylan, Neil Young, Lennon. There are those who, to my taste, just can't: Queen, U2...and they do sound as if they were transforming the idea of "fighting injustice" into a commodity and selling it.
Ever since I began studying music, I've been dealing with composers and musical trends which are alternative even among erudite circles. I like it. I enjoy it and it satisfies me. I have a lot of joy playing or singing this kind of stuff. But I don't claim I'm doing anything superior - I'm doing something different. Music can, and I think has to be too, lighter entertainment.
When I'm not handling music as a profession, I like it to be about entertainment, fun or things about the everyday life we all can relate do - I like it to be just like Queen's Jazz or A Day At The Races. It may move you not through exploring people's suffering in a sentimental way which doesn't help thinking and sounds absolutely fake - the hungry mouths we have to feed... - but rather through everyday life experience we can all relate to - for instance, Somebody To Life. Spread Your Wings.
And I specially like it when the people doing it, that is, doing music like this - as entertainment -, just like Freddie did, deliver what they promise to do: giving us a good time.
It's more than enough. :-)))
Thank you all for the wonderful thread and the great contributions.
Above all, and as always, thank you for taking your time to impart your experiences and knowledge.
It's an honor to be part of the website! :-)
Yara
Sheer Brass Neck
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Sheer Brass Neck
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[b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/b]
Hey Daniel, the beauty/downfall of the internet is that conversations tend to be kind of all over the map!
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What I meant by the Roger/Radiohead/Coldplay analogy, plus Brian criticizing newspapers, critics et al, was that Queen fans are kind of lemming like. If I may attempt to interpret your view (probably incorrectly I may add), then "we" as posters on a forum aren't "qualified" or have the bona fides to criticize a band that by dint of the first song they ever released accomplished more artistically in their lives than all of us collectively. Or, we aren't worthy as we haven't done anything on the level of Queen musically, or even Adam Lambert. That being the case, Roger's solo stuff is (apart from Fun in Space which is fantastic and underrated) is not even near the quality of Radiohead or Coldplay, so is he qualified to criticize? Or as Sebastian said, Brian has never owned a newspaper, (or been in a blues band), so is he qualified to pass judgement on them, and if so, is it because he's written songs we like? I'm confused!
Bottom line, even if they do go with Adam Lambert, it's not Queen and never will be Queen for tons of people. If it is for others that's great. But I could call myself John S. Stuart on this forum or Daniel Nester, and it doesn't mean I have the knowledge you two have.
[/QUOTE]And BTW Yara, I love your decency and spirit when you post, you are a good person for the board to have, you're very respectful in your posts which is a nice touch.[/QUOTE]
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[b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/b]
Hey Daniel, the beauty/downfall of the internet is that conversations tend to be kind of all over the map!
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What I meant by the Roger/Radiohead/Coldplay analogy, plus Brian criticizing newspapers, critics et al, was that Queen fans are kind of lemming like. If I may attempt to interpret your view (probably incorrectly I may add), then "we" as posters on a forum aren't "qualified" or have the bona fides to criticize a band that by dint of the first song they ever released accomplished more artistically in their lives than all of us collectively. Or, we aren't worthy as we haven't done anything on the level of Queen musically, or even Adam Lambert. That being the case, Roger's solo stuff is (apart from Fun in Space which is fantastic and underrated) is not even near the quality of Radiohead or Coldplay, so is he qualified to criticize? Or as Sebastian said, Brian has never owned a newspaper, (or been in a blues band), so is he qualified to pass judgement on them, and if so, is it because he's written songs we like? I'm confused!
Bottom line, even if they do go with Adam Lambert, it's not Queen and never will be Queen for tons of people. If it is for others that's great. But I could call myself John S. Stuart on this forum or Daniel Nester, and it doesn't mean I have the knowledge you two have.
[/QUOTE]And BTW Yara, I love your decency and spirit when you post, you are a good person for the board to have, you're very respectful in your posts which is a nice touch.[/QUOTE]
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blackmarble
[b]Yara wrote: [/b]
[b]There were people who were good at combining social criticism and music: Dylan, Neil Young, Lennon. There are those who, to my taste, just can't: Queen, U2...and they do sound as if they were transforming the idea of "fighting injustice" into a commodity and selling it.
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Yara,
You cannot seriously speak about good combination of social criticism and music after "Let's Roll".
It was horrible in 2001 and pain stupid now.
[b]There were people who were good at combining social criticism and music: Dylan, Neil Young, Lennon. There are those who, to my taste, just can't: Queen, U2...and they do sound as if they were transforming the idea of "fighting injustice" into a commodity and selling it.
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Yara,
You cannot seriously speak about good combination of social criticism and music after "Let's Roll".
It was horrible in 2001 and pain stupid now.
Ray D O'Gaga
Adam Lambert & Queen: The Rumors Are True
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1785164/adam_lambert_and_queen_the_rumors_are.html
I hope they sign the kid up if for no other reason than because it would royally piss off so many of you.
He's probably got more talent in his eyeliner than most of you have in your whole bodies.
So, yeah, let's get a queen back in Queen. Long overdue.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1785164/adam_lambert_and_queen_the_rumors_are.html
I hope they sign the kid up if for no other reason than because it would royally piss off so many of you.
He's probably got more talent in his eyeliner than most of you have in your whole bodies.
So, yeah, let's get a queen back in Queen. Long overdue.
Yara
[b]blackmarble wrote:
Yara,
You cannot seriously speak about good combination of social criticism and music after "Let's Roll".
It was horrible in 2001 and pain stupid now.
[/b]Hello, Blackmarble!
How are you doing? First of all, welcome to Queenzone! You must have already noticed that there are some very good discussions going on. I hope you have a wonderful time here.
As for your post: I think, no offense, please, I just think you misread me. You yourself quoted me: I wrote that [b][i]there were people who WERE GOOD...
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Even though I'm a huge fan of Neil Young, I don't think he's as good now as he used to be. Same goes for Dylan. Lennon is, unfortunately, not among us anymore.
You may have missed some of my posts - I don't like the idea of combining both. People here have already gotten quite mad at me because of that (:op) - so, if it's that bad, it's a sign that my poor soul is on the right track as far as my most humble taste goes: better keep social criticism to people who have a good grasp at what's happening in the world and have the moral authority to change things. ;-)))
I'm not addressing "Let's Roll" now in order to avoid going off-topic, but I'd love to do it elsewhere and discuss it in another thread, maybe in the personal board where we can expand on the song. Anyway, "Let's Roll", even if I had writen the sentence in the present, wouldn't be enough to debunk my point, I guess. Don't you think? But that's another issue altogether.
So, no offense, again, but I think there was a misreading there.
Amidst of all these things, I don't want to lose sight of what's, for now, more important[b]: your coming to the website and the fact we have one more inquiring and interested Queenzoner[/b]. It makes me happy and I welcome you.
I hope you have a great time here. Take care and be well.
Yara
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Yara,
You cannot seriously speak about good combination of social criticism and music after "Let's Roll".
It was horrible in 2001 and pain stupid now.
[/b]Hello, Blackmarble!
How are you doing? First of all, welcome to Queenzone! You must have already noticed that there are some very good discussions going on. I hope you have a wonderful time here.
As for your post: I think, no offense, please, I just think you misread me. You yourself quoted me: I wrote that [b][i]there were people who WERE GOOD...
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Even though I'm a huge fan of Neil Young, I don't think he's as good now as he used to be. Same goes for Dylan. Lennon is, unfortunately, not among us anymore.
You may have missed some of my posts - I don't like the idea of combining both. People here have already gotten quite mad at me because of that (:op) - so, if it's that bad, it's a sign that my poor soul is on the right track as far as my most humble taste goes: better keep social criticism to people who have a good grasp at what's happening in the world and have the moral authority to change things. ;-)))
I'm not addressing "Let's Roll" now in order to avoid going off-topic, but I'd love to do it elsewhere and discuss it in another thread, maybe in the personal board where we can expand on the song. Anyway, "Let's Roll", even if I had writen the sentence in the present, wouldn't be enough to debunk my point, I guess. Don't you think? But that's another issue altogether.
So, no offense, again, but I think there was a misreading there.
Amidst of all these things, I don't want to lose sight of what's, for now, more important[b]: your coming to the website and the fact we have one more inquiring and interested Queenzoner[/b]. It makes me happy and I welcome you.
I hope you have a great time here. Take care and be well.
Yara
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