I'm really...happy. :)) You guys made me cry! I'm moved, for real. I always enter the website at the same time, which is late at night here. We all have very demanding days, I think, and despite all the pressures and the rush of everyday life, you guys, who come from different regions of the world, devote part of your precious time to write such lovely, kind and endearing messages to someone who's so far away and doesn't even know how to write English properly - the thought that ultimately it's music, as an art form, with its universal appeal, which allows us to have such nice experiences and brings us together is very moving. Either by benefiting from the kindness and patience involved in sharing the music or talking about the pleasure of listening to it or even the knowledge we may have about something, I always have a great time here. It's so beautiful. Ever since I came here I learned a lot with you guys and I keep learning.
I'm specially happy because the messages come from very, very dear users: Sir GH, Inu-linger, Donna13 and, finally, Arnaldo, the one who saved me from displaying a shameful record of no successful jokes - I remember he liked that one about which "We Will Rock You" came first - the fast or the slow... :op I can't be funny and make jokes, at least deliberately. lol
Is it possible that I have a Canadian soul? I love Neil Young and Joni Mitchell, listening to Glenn Gould playing Bach changed my life, I like Rush, and dear queenzoners Sir GH and Inu-Linger have always been so kind and respectful and patient towards myself.
You're lovely. I know soon I'll go to bed with a big smile on my face and a lot of energy to live each and every hour of my day with joy and intensity!
Sorry, my dears, for the lenghty message and for being a bit emotive. In no way I want to hijack the thread. But I just COULDN'T help expressing my gratitude and joy.
Have a wonderful day you all, and especially Sir GH, Inu-Linger, Donna13 and Arnaldo.
*hug*
Yara
andreas_mercury · Member since
i rest my case.......... [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]what i want to know is where did all of the other care bears go.[/QUOTE]
The Real Wizard · Member since
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i rest my case..........
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Nobody told you to read it, or even to come back to this thread.
We live in a society of free choice, where Yara is free to say what she wants in a forum thread, but unfortunately this two-way street also permits you to inject your pessimism into it like an incurable disease.
If you feel the need to criticize things that are wrong in this world, then maybe you should focus on some real problems instead of going after someone else's genuine positivity that only you can't seem to handle.
on my way up · Member since
Of course I'd pick Yara too. Her posts about Queen's live performances(especially Freddie)are always a joy to read(very very interesting!). Several people, who are mainly active in the announce section, try to make this a better place. Yara is part of that and I love it.
Saif · Member since
If you don't like her posts, skip them, asshole. No one's forcing you to read them. Her posts are probably too much for your miniscule brain.
andreas_mercury · Member since
oh god YAWN..... [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]i didnt ask to make a discussion about Yara i made one post, i've never seen such hypocrites.... 'if you don't like it then dont read and quit bitching'[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]where is that philosophy NOW, saif?? LOL[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]sir made a good point to about 'genuine positivity' which is always the best but yara is overkill and theres a bit too much of it to be genuine ..... to say nothing of the fact its always copy pasted, much like Amir's posts.[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]anyway enough of that, you guys are remarkabely one-eyed when it comes to repetetiveness on the forum and i'm bored.[/QUOTE]
YourValentine · Member since
If you are so bored why don't you stop hijacking posts on this board with your tedious alleged band story? Yara has always something to say about the topic and it's always interesting to read her contribution.
lol @ Daniel (IMHO).
Of course we share opinions. I think we reacted so sensitive because you said we sound like "rock critics". If QZ is not the place to nitpick about Queen - where else do we have to go?
andreas_mercury · Member since
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If you are so bored why don't you stop hijacking posts on this board with your tedious alleged band story?[/QUOTE]
my hands are tied and i cant even answer that question can I?? because I just said i'm bored of the topic???? come on guys! [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]but as for the 'tedious band story' can I explain something; i want peoples input. thats why i brought it up, but now that i no longer live in same city as those people, it is over.....[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
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Yara has always something to say about the topic and it's always interesting to read her contribution[/QUOTE] you're right she always says something .... whether its interesting or not, LOL....[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]but look thats her thing. it doesnt bother me too much but i had to bring it up at least once.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Togg · Member since
The thing I don't understand (trying hard to keep on track here...)
Queen have always been an experimental band, just look at the history...surely if you like Queen you are not into one sound, one style, one creative path?
Unless you just like one or two albums of course.
So, why are so many people (actually when yo look back it's usually the same ones) upset when they do something new?
So what if they try a new singer...would it matter if they tried Hip Hop? or went country?
These guys are in a band that always changes, that's WHY I love them, I don''t want the same thing for 40 years
So if they try a new style or singer or go down a different creative path like launch a musical...do a film or start a newspaper, I would be interested to see what it was like, I don't have to like everything, but as I normally like how they approach creative work I guess there is a good chance I will like some part of it
So I am always amazed that people get hot under the collar about change.
YourValentine · Member since
Togg, I am absolutely with you - I am all for Brian and Roger trying new things and expand their creativity. I do have doubts if Adam Lambert is the right person to achieve that.
I have seen the musical 4 times and I did not see or hear anything new or creative. There is a stupid story which is full of stolen ideas from King Arthur to Brave New World and there are 16 old Queen songs which are performed very well but still old, unless you think that lyrics like "Radio Gaga, internet googoo" is a creative achievement. The musical is no new creative path, it's just exploiting the Queen Greatest Hits very successfully.
The Queen film is not a Queen film but a Freddie film and as far as I heard it was shelved because Freddie's mother was deeply offended by the script and what we hear about the script it's a Freddie biopicture focussing on private issues, so where is the creative part contributed by Brian and Roger to this project?
The Cosmos Rocks was the only new and musically creative Queen project since Made In Heaven and although it does not have this extra special Queen touch of original Queen albums (IMHO) I do not complain - it's a solid Rock album and I would not mind if they released more really new stuff. I thought it was good that they had a singer who was a star of his own and not a Freddie clone.
About a possible collaboration with Adam Lambert Queenzoner Sheer Brass Neck wrote the following on page 2 of this thread and I quote it because he says it so well:
"I'm sure it appears that here are these guys playing those songs again for the hundredth time, desperately trying to hang on by glomming on to an up and coming talent. Sure they mayget noticed, but it's below them, and pathetic. The Hills is a scripted reality show about a vapid group of pretty people in Hollywood. It's very popular, and made stars out of the cast (think Paris Hilton variety in the talent department). Should Martin Scorsese cast the women of The Hills in his next flick? After all, he's getting a little long in the tooth, and people would relate more to his movies if they had Audina Partridge in them instead of someone like Meryl Streep. Or Woody Allen could cast the Real Housewives of Atlanta in his next ensemble. What would people think in Hollywood? They'd think that they were pathetic. Which is what Brian and Roger are if they're thinking that."
That's exactly what this discussion is all about. There is no creative innovation in Queen, there is only exploration of previous success, no risk, no new ideas. It's Crazy Frog and Viagra ad, Pepsi commercial and American Idol.
Sebastian · Member since
There are different levels of change. Changing from [i]Killer Queen [/i]to [i]Bohemian Rhapsody[/i] is a good change: they're both great songs and very different as well. Changing from Trident Studios to Rockfield was a great choice, and both eras are ace. Changing from no-synths to synths brought them gains and losses, as well as changing from no-guests to guests, or from pre- and post-smoking Fred's voice.
I've always adored how Queen (1970-1991) tried out new things, even if some of them were shite like [i]Body Language[/i]... for every [i]Body Language [/i]or [i]Get Down Make Love [/i]you also get a [i]Las Palabras de Amor [/i]or an [i]All Dead, All Dead[/i]... it's all worth it to me.
But to 'explore' what's like to collaborate with Britney Spears or being a backing band for an AI contestant... well, would've fans liked it in the 70's if they did a record with KC & The Sunshine Band or if they became a backing band for a John Travolta tour?
There are loads of people who admire Mr Lambert: good for them; but then again there are also some people who simply can't conceive the thought of B+R doing anything wrong, so they tend to either:
- Slam those who're not OK with 'every move they make' ('get a life', 'you can't sing like Adam/Paul/Robbie/you-name-them').
- Criticise the Freddie era (they also had shite songs, they also fell for disco), almost to the point of resenting him.
And even if that group is 1% of Queen fans, casual listeners or critics, they're 'loud' enough to ruin QZ (for instance), even if for limited extent.
Many people here probably know my perspective on the use of the Queen name: I don't agree with it, and I think B+R are bigger than that (by 'that' I mean, living off the past and becoming their own cover band). But this isn't about the name: it's about two people who could be doing great on their own (plus a bassist) or collaborating with some of the marvellous musicians out there (both old and young), but instead content themselves with Adam Lambert... I think, personally, the rea$on i$ pretty obviou$.
I'm personally not very fond of their 80's output, but now I yearn for a time like that: at least their guests were Howard Blake, David Bowie, Arif Mardin, Michael Kamen, Fred Mandel, Mike Moran ([i]AGP[/i] was most likely put together in '89 so it's still the 80's), Steve Howe (ditto), Steve Gregory, Lynton Naiff, Joan Armatrading, the bloke who sang [i]True [/i](forgot his name). Now they've traded them for Britney Spears, Pink, Robbie and Adam. Are Britney, Pink, Robbie and Adam bad singers? Not at all, but it's like having a '53 VW Beetle after years and years of owning Ferrari's.
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Togg · Member since
I understand where you are coming from YV not sure I agree completely, I think the musical is creative, maybe not a new story as such but then I'm not sure there are many truely new stories out there, most films are based on retelling the smae 8-10 story lines when you think about it.
I would have prefered them to base the show around one of the Queen songs, say 39, but hey they did something that has worked well, it is what it is, good pure entertainment which is what 90% of Queen's music is, as Freddie said disposable.
The film being shelved is a shame but lets face it, from a writters point of view the only really interesting story was Fred's private life, it's the bit that sold the newspapers so I would guess it's where a writer would focuse
2 hours of whating the band work in the studio or on stage is not going to attract an audience outside the normal Queen fan. Shame but true.
I do think Cosmos was a creative move...sure its' not a new sound, but it's a new venture for Queen,
Anyway whatever comes next I will look forward to hearing/watching
The Real Wizard · Member since
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but as for the 'tedious band story' can I explain something; i want peoples input.
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But you don't seem to understand that nobody cares!
Treasure Moment is a band that nobody likes (except for a few people on YouTube), who have only recorded (poorly) a few home demos. Nobody here would care if they were never mentioned here again. This is a Queen forum, not a "hijack every second thread with irrelevant crap" forum. At the absolute least, this stuff should be left in the personal section, but at best, it should be discussed on your own time because it is a waste of time and space here.
andreas_mercury · Member since
ugh ... when i say 'input' i mean advice. my problem has very little to do to band stuff, its just that i wanted advice, [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]and when someone addresses to me in a thread I respond to them as was the case with Microwave bringing up that shit fucking band Treasure Moment ....[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]I answered his post, END OF DISCUSSION, let it go...... fucking incredible you still write paragraphs of WAH WAH WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR BAND when I was done writing about the whole thing ages past!!!! can't we talk about adam lambert now???[/QUOTE]
andreas_mercury · Member since
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it's about two people who could be doing great on their own (plus a bassist) or collaborating with some of the marvellous musicians out there (both old and young)[/QUOTE]
absolutely to this I agree 100%. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]brian and roger between themselves have so many awesome friends .... pull some strings and put the all star tour together ....... maybe that's another kind of $$$ gimmick!!!!! mmm. i think the reason depends on who'd they pick ... [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]queen is very dead and the name should rest but that is only secondary of importence!! what most matters is that they get out and make new music just like when with paul rogers. okay the music wasn't fans for everyone but that will happen. try again, no reason to stop, not until they (physically) can't play anymore, like Freddie. [/QUOTE]
