tremendo , espectacular .
soy de rosario.
gracias
hacia falta esto y no subir tantas veces las mismas cosas.
un abrazo
ogre raylot
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wsk
Thank you very much!
Tim June
Thank you very much for this very interesting show!
L-R-TIGER1994
[i]On Taringa´s post the user said that he ripped it some years ago and doesn´t know if the taper still has the cassette.[/i]
L-R-TIGER1994
[i]Bad news about this cassette,the person who posted the show on Taringa confirmed me that the contacted the taper but the cassette doesn´t exist anymore so we will have to wait till another copy surfaces,he was very gentle and responded me immediately but he says that the taper really doesn´t want to be disturbed or be asked about deails of the show so please respect him.[/i]
The Real Wizard
Translation:
The taper wants to keep the best version for himself.
But it's his tape, so he's entitled to do as he pleases. It would just be nice if people could be honest about it.
The taper wants to keep the best version for himself.
But it's his tape, so he's entitled to do as he pleases. It would just be nice if people could be honest about it.
L-R-TIGER1994
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
Translation:
The taper wants to keep the best version for himself.
But it's his tape, so he's entitled to do as he pleases. It would just be nice if people could be honest about it.
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[i]Believe me this may not be the case,this is the story.according to what this guy says:around 2002 a man came to his work(he films events and all that stuff)with a cassette and wanted it to be ripped into CD,moffwalter(this is the name of the person who uploaded it)asked the guy what he wanted to do with the tape cos it was very rare,he just asked that he "found it somewhere in the house" and "just" wanted to listen to it so he did rip the tape into cd and keep the copy only in mp3,now the cassette doesn´t exist anymore.
The taper is just an ordinary person whom in his youth went to see Queen,he is not an elite trader,may be not even a huge Queen fan nowadays,may be around in 1981 he wasn´t a huge fan either,remember that Queen was the first major band to visit Argentina so many people went to see them,most were fans,some of them liked their music and some of them as it was in their own city just were curious and attended the show,this taper according to what moffwalter says is amongst the second or even the third option,nearly 29 years have passed and he is around 50yo,thru the years he lost interest and was unaware that he had a treasure on his hands(and didn´t care too much either about it) he just listened to it on CD and left the cassette scattered at home as he had done till 2002 but this time he lost it.This is exactly what the uploader told me,so you take your own conclusions,may be you are right but reading all the story as the uploader told me,it seems more likely that this taper didn´t keep it as a treasure,it would have been great if it had been a huge fan who had taped the show cos this person didn´t care anything about Queen and never was aware that he had some invaluable piece of Queen history to sell/trade/keep for himself or whatever but it was his cassette and he did what he wanted.But thanks God it was a kind soul who was not selfish and uploaded the show anyway(even though without the taper permission)and this is what we have today till some other version appears.[/i]
[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
Translation:
The taper wants to keep the best version for himself.
But it's his tape, so he's entitled to do as he pleases. It would just be nice if people could be honest about it.
[/QUOTE]
[i]Believe me this may not be the case,this is the story.according to what this guy says:around 2002 a man came to his work(he films events and all that stuff)with a cassette and wanted it to be ripped into CD,moffwalter(this is the name of the person who uploaded it)asked the guy what he wanted to do with the tape cos it was very rare,he just asked that he "found it somewhere in the house" and "just" wanted to listen to it so he did rip the tape into cd and keep the copy only in mp3,now the cassette doesn´t exist anymore.
The taper is just an ordinary person whom in his youth went to see Queen,he is not an elite trader,may be not even a huge Queen fan nowadays,may be around in 1981 he wasn´t a huge fan either,remember that Queen was the first major band to visit Argentina so many people went to see them,most were fans,some of them liked their music and some of them as it was in their own city just were curious and attended the show,this taper according to what moffwalter says is amongst the second or even the third option,nearly 29 years have passed and he is around 50yo,thru the years he lost interest and was unaware that he had a treasure on his hands(and didn´t care too much either about it) he just listened to it on CD and left the cassette scattered at home as he had done till 2002 but this time he lost it.This is exactly what the uploader told me,so you take your own conclusions,may be you are right but reading all the story as the uploader told me,it seems more likely that this taper didn´t keep it as a treasure,it would have been great if it had been a huge fan who had taped the show cos this person didn´t care anything about Queen and never was aware that he had some invaluable piece of Queen history to sell/trade/keep for himself or whatever but it was his cassette and he did what he wanted.But thanks God it was a kind soul who was not selfish and uploaded the show anyway(even though without the taper permission)and this is what we have today till some other version appears.[/i]
L-R-TIGER1994
[i]I keep my fingers crossed but it seems we will have to search somewhere else for another version to have it in FLAC,anyway I was glad that a "new" recording appeared and hope some more will pop up soon.[/i]
Double-U
Back in 2001 I had contact to a dutch trader who sold his whole collection of Queen recordings. He sent me a list and there was also a Rosario recording on it. It was a one disc recording titled "Rock it South America".
On this list there were also recordings from Glasgow (30.11.1979 and 31.05.1977) written down.
After I noticed that nobody else in the trading community knew something about those items I doubted that they could be genuine. But today with that great gift from 1981 I think it all over again.
Thanks to all the people who made this recording available
regards
W.
On this list there were also recordings from Glasgow (30.11.1979 and 31.05.1977) written down.
After I noticed that nobody else in the trading community knew something about those items I doubted that they could be genuine. But today with that great gift from 1981 I think it all over again.
Thanks to all the people who made this recording available
regards
W.
Mkls
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[b]Double-U wrote: [/b]
Back in 2001 I had contact to a dutch trader who sold his whole collection of Queen recordings. He sent me a list and there was also a Rosario recording on it. It was a one disc recording titled "Rock it South America".
On this list there were also recordings from Glasgow (30.11.1979 and 31.05.1977) written down.
After I noticed that nobody else in the trading community knew something about those items I doubted that they could be genuine. But today with that great gift from 1981 I think it all over again.
Thanks to all the people who made this recording available
regards
W.
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I checked those two Glasgow dates you mention - indeed they are / were listed on the most famous Dutch collectors audio list... Glasgow 30.05.77 and 31.05.77 both as 2xC60, quality 8 out of 10 ... can be real, or a mix up of other dates , remember those lists were compiled through the 80s - closer in time to the source, but with more limited cross-checking of information.
[b]Double-U wrote: [/b]
Back in 2001 I had contact to a dutch trader who sold his whole collection of Queen recordings. He sent me a list and there was also a Rosario recording on it. It was a one disc recording titled "Rock it South America".
On this list there were also recordings from Glasgow (30.11.1979 and 31.05.1977) written down.
After I noticed that nobody else in the trading community knew something about those items I doubted that they could be genuine. But today with that great gift from 1981 I think it all over again.
Thanks to all the people who made this recording available
regards
W.
[/QUOTE]
I checked those two Glasgow dates you mention - indeed they are / were listed on the most famous Dutch collectors audio list... Glasgow 30.05.77 and 31.05.77 both as 2xC60, quality 8 out of 10 ... can be real, or a mix up of other dates , remember those lists were compiled through the 80s - closer in time to the source, but with more limited cross-checking of information.
Double-U
Dear Miklos,
you're absolutely right. Rosario is real as we know from today so there's a piece of chance that also other recordings could be genuine. But it's strange that they appeared mainly in the traders lists from the Netherlands.
Perhaps they were shared in a small community only or they are fakes like Cleethorpes and others.
I didn't come across bootleg cassettes so often. On ebay I saw a tape labelled as Munich 02.12.1974 for what I wasn't willing to pay a lot of money to realize in the end that it is another Rainbow-mix. But we can never know.
regards
W.
you're absolutely right. Rosario is real as we know from today so there's a piece of chance that also other recordings could be genuine. But it's strange that they appeared mainly in the traders lists from the Netherlands.
Perhaps they were shared in a small community only or they are fakes like Cleethorpes and others.
I didn't come across bootleg cassettes so often. On ebay I saw a tape labelled as Munich 02.12.1974 for what I wasn't willing to pay a lot of money to realize in the end that it is another Rainbow-mix. But we can never know.
regards
W.
little foetus
A recording labelled as the second night of Glasgow 79 is from the first night and the same for Glasgow 77. It is one of the known fakes that has circulated for years, even in mp3 on the hub. If someone lists it, I think it is a good idea to verify but the probability of a fake is quite high.
The Real Wizard
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[b]L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: [/b][i]The taper is just an ordinary person whom in his youth went to see Queen,he is not an elite trader,may be not even a huge Queen fan nowadays,may be around in 1981 he wasn´t a huge fan either,remember that Queen was the first major band to visit Argentina so many people went to see them,most were fans,some of them liked their music and some of them as it was in their own city just were curious and attended the show,this taper according to what moffwalter says is amongst the second or even the third option,nearly 29 years have passed and he is around 50yo,thru the years he lost interest and was unaware that he had a treasure on his hands(and didn´t care too much either about it) he just listened to it on CD and left the cassette scattered at home as he had done till 2002 but this time he lost it.[/i][/QUOTE]
Of course, it may be true. But collectors have a very long history of making up excuses not to let out a recording, or for letting it out in reduced quality. I've heard variations of this kind of story dozens of times.
Either way, it's great that the tape showed up in one way or another.
[b]L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: [/b][i]The taper is just an ordinary person whom in his youth went to see Queen,he is not an elite trader,may be not even a huge Queen fan nowadays,may be around in 1981 he wasn´t a huge fan either,remember that Queen was the first major band to visit Argentina so many people went to see them,most were fans,some of them liked their music and some of them as it was in their own city just were curious and attended the show,this taper according to what moffwalter says is amongst the second or even the third option,nearly 29 years have passed and he is around 50yo,thru the years he lost interest and was unaware that he had a treasure on his hands(and didn´t care too much either about it) he just listened to it on CD and left the cassette scattered at home as he had done till 2002 but this time he lost it.[/i][/QUOTE]
Of course, it may be true. But collectors have a very long history of making up excuses not to let out a recording, or for letting it out in reduced quality. I've heard variations of this kind of story dozens of times.
Either way, it's great that the tape showed up in one way or another.
on my way up
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[b]little foetus wrote: [/b]
A recording labelled as the second night of Glasgow 79 is from the first night and the same for Glasgow 77. It is one of the known fakes that has circulated for years, even in mp3 on the hub. If someone lists it, I think it is a good idea to verify but the probability of a fake is quite high.
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I've also heard of the existence of a recording of one of the Manchester 1979 shows. I've heard it from a Queen-fan who saw it listed by 2 collectors more than 20 years ago. I'd really like to meet someone who knows more about that. An extra Crazy tour tape would be very welcome:-)
[b]little foetus wrote: [/b]
A recording labelled as the second night of Glasgow 79 is from the first night and the same for Glasgow 77. It is one of the known fakes that has circulated for years, even in mp3 on the hub. If someone lists it, I think it is a good idea to verify but the probability of a fake is quite high.
[/QUOTE]
I've also heard of the existence of a recording of one of the Manchester 1979 shows. I've heard it from a Queen-fan who saw it listed by 2 collectors more than 20 years ago. I'd really like to meet someone who knows more about that. An extra Crazy tour tape would be very welcome:-)
Mr. Scully
I confirm the story - the guy who uploaded Rosario has got in touch with me and confirmed this is all he has.
[/QUOTE]Jim Jenkins has several previously unheard tapes - but from time to time he trashes some when he cleans the house - he's not really a Queen fan anymore. He was very kind to me when we met in Liverpool some years ago so I didn't feel like persuading him to give the tapes to me. I just told him he should keep them for future generations but I don't know if he did that :) He had some nice recordings from the Crazy tour if I remember well.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]Jim Jenkins has several previously unheard tapes - but from time to time he trashes some when he cleans the house - he's not really a Queen fan anymore. He was very kind to me when we met in Liverpool some years ago so I didn't feel like persuading him to give the tapes to me. I just told him he should keep them for future generations but I don't know if he did that :) He had some nice recordings from the Crazy tour if I remember well.[/QUOTE]