Why Mr. Bad Guy was a flop?

shazamrock wrote:

 



mike hunt wrote:



barcelona's not a solo album?....that means back to the light isn't a brian may solo album, it's a brian + cozy album. Don't try to be smart, you Just make yourself look dumb.

Barcelona is not a solo album.  Freddie may have co-written and produced the entire thing, but, even if one wants to conveniently ignore Montserrat in the artist listing, by definition, this album of duets is not a solo album.

It is a solo project with regards to the Queen umbrella, but not as an album in its own right.

now that is nonsense my friend, pure nonsense. It's a solo project under the queen umbrella, but not as an album in it's own right.  Pure nonsense.

Nah, that kind of makes sense.
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[/QUOTE]Mr. Bad Guy was way more a 'solo' effort if you think about it.  The Barcelona album was much more collaborative in spirit, a lot more creative input from other people.  [/QUOTE]
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[/QUOTE]Depends on the definition of solo.  Neither is a 'solo' if you consider that Freddie had other musicians playing for him.  Since it was very much Freddie's project then it still counts as a solo album but as the music wasn't all of his own devising (and there was another artist duetting with him) then one could argue it's not 'really' a solo album.[/QUOTE]
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[/QUOTE]That is, if one cared enough to do so.  [/QUOTE]

Say nonsense again.  I like it.

mike hunt wrote:

 



Holly2003 wrote:



Hmm... amazing how two people can view the same thing and come to opposite conclusions.

For me, the mix, production, and over-use of synths really overwhelms any positive aspects. Some songs are okay, some catchy, but there's nothing particualrly special about anything. I haven't listened to the album for as long as I can remember. Really can't stand that 80s sound.

As for Barcelona, it's not Queen but it's not a solo artist efort either: it's as much a Monserrat album as it is Fred's.

your trying too be cute now,  barcelona's not a solo album?....that means back to the light isn't a brian may solo album, it's a brian + cozy album. Don't try to be smart, you Just make yourself look dumb.

You should start your own forum, then you won't have to listen to anyone else's opinions.

 



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Holly2003 wrote:



 



 



 



Hmm... amazing how two people can view the same thing and come to opposite conclusions.

For me, the mix, production, and over-use of synths really overwhelms any positive aspects. Some songs are okay, some catchy, but there's nothing particualrly special about anything. I haven't listened to the album for as long as I can remember. Really can't stand that 80s sound.

As for Barcelona, it's not Queen but it's not a solo artist efort either: it's as much a Monserrat album as it is Fred's.



 



 



 

your trying too be cute now,  barcelona's not a solo album?....that means back to the light isn't a brian may solo album, it's a brian + cozy album. Don't try to be smart, you Just make yourself look dumb.

You should start your own forum, then you won't have to listen to anyone else's opinions.

now that's an idea, I still say back to the light and barcelona are equally solo albums.  This debate is nonsense anyway. Who really gives a rats ass.  like anyone really cares you think Mr. bad guy sucks. Never mind that freddie solo (lover of life) did better on the charts than TCR did. How old is freddie's solo stuff?...decades old, and it out sold 3 so called legends new stuff.  By the way, the great pretender was awsome. Perfectly sung and did pretty well on the charts.  Thank you very much!

I completely agree that Barcelona IS a solo album.  Mike Moran, as a classically trained musician may have brought Freddie's piano compositions to live but they were at the core, Freddie all over.  Oh and Mr. Rice through in the odd lyric, but come on - to deny that the creation was Freddie's is either to be unfair or just facetious. Also Monserrat just sang (apart from maybe, Ensueno) and in my opinion her voice ruined songs like Golden Boy (no blame at her feet just think the mix of styles didn't gel)

How can you say that isn't a solo effort? Who (apart from maybe Trent Reznor) plays all the instruments on their solo albums?  Elton didn't even write most of his lyrics and usually had an orchestra.  Also considering how pedantic Freddie was with song's arrangements he was much more involved in album production that may other artists whose work would be considered a 'solo' project.

So sorry about those unforgivable typos, by the way.

Zebonka -

I would say the reverse, that it may have been somewhat collaborative in fact (due to Monserrat singing and Mike Moran on piano) but that it was solo in spirit.

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Hmm... amazing how two people can view the same thing and come to opposite conclusions.

For me, the mix, production, and over-use of synths really overwhelms any positive aspects. Some songs are okay, some catchy, but there's nothing particualrly special about anything. I haven't listened to the album for as long as I can remember. Really can't stand that 80s sound.

As for Barcelona, it's not Queen but it's not a solo artist efort either: it's as much a Monserrat album as it is Fred's.



 



 



 



 



 



 



 

your trying too be cute now,  barcelona's not a solo album?....that means back to the light isn't a brian may solo album, it's a brian + cozy album. Don't try to be smart, you Just make yourself look dumb.

You should start your own forum, then you won't have to listen to anyone else's opinions.

now that's an idea, I still say back to the light and barcelona are equally solo albums.  This debate is nonsense anyway. Who really gives a rats ass.  like anyone really cares you think Mr. bad guy sucks. Never mind that freddie solo (lover of life) did better on the charts than TCR did. How old is freddie's solo stuff?...decades old, and it out sold 3 so called legends new stuff.  By the way, the great pretender was awsome. Perfectly sung and did pretty well on the charts.  Thank you very much!

Ugh..it's like arguing with a dull child. Record sales and chart positions are no indicator of quality, otherwise Britney Spears would be "better" than Freddie.

Answer why anything does't sell well is marketing. Personnally I believe that Queen was not properly promoted.

Angeline wrote:

I completely agree that Barcelona IS a solo album.  Mike Moran, as a classically trained musician may have brought Freddie's piano compositions to live but they were at the core, Freddie all over.  Oh and Mr. Rice through in the odd lyric, but come on - to deny that the creation was Freddie's is either to be unfair or just facetious. Also Monserrat just sang (apart from maybe, Ensueno) and in my opinion her voice ruined songs like Golden Boy (no blame at her feet just think the mix of styles didn't gel)

How can you say that isn't a solo effort? Who (apart from maybe Trent Reznor) plays all the instruments on their solo albums?  Elton didn't even write most of his lyrics and usually had an orchestra.  Also considering how pedantic Freddie was with song's arrangements he was much more involved in album production that may other artists whose work would be considered a 'solo' project.

I agree, that's all cabelle did was sing what freddie wrote for her,  so that means back to the light and another world wern't solo albums. Cozy played drums. Brian didn't write the lryics to "too much love will kill you" and brian had help writng some other songs on the album.

whitequeen2 wrote:

Answer why anything does't sell well is marketing. Personnally I believe that Queen was not properly promoted.

TCR wasn't well promoted because the album wasn't very good. Plain and simple.

mike hunt wrote:



I agree, that's all cabelle did was sing what freddie wrote for her,  so that means back to the light and another world wern't solo albums. Cozy played drums. Brian didn't write the lryics to "too much love will kill you" and brian had help writng some other songs on the album.

Not trying to be an arse here, but Google the Straw Man fallacy.  That's what this line of reasoning is, and that's why I can't bring myself to agree.

ok, enough of this argument, it's one of my favorite albums whether it's a solo album or not.

Agreed.  :)