Indeed, it's mono. Most audience tapes from this period are mono, since most people didn't have stereo recording gear/mics.
And that's helpful for us since that'll make the files half the size :-)
The Real Wizard
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OwenSmith
The file size really isn't an issue these days. I find listening to mono a bit weird, there are absolutely no spatial cues when listening.
I find it strange that mono gear was common in 1977. My dad had a lot of audio gear then and it was all stereo.
I find it strange that mono gear was common in 1977. My dad had a lot of audio gear then and it was all stereo.
Nitroboy
Well you should keep in mind that most people probably used their old mono recorders they happened to have lying around :)
OwenSmith
The odd thing is all the other Queen bootlegs from that era and earlier are in stereo (at least the ones I have anyway), either on reel to reel or cassette. This is the only one I have that is mono.
The Real Wizard
Interesting discussion here.
Although most of these audience tapes seem to be transferred in stereo, the sound itself is still usually mono. The tape transfer may create differences in information in each channel, but there is no audible difference.
Great tapes like Montreal 78 are clearly in stereo, but most of the audience tapes are in mono.
Why Seattle 77 turned out to be digitally different is anyone's guess. Or maybe Weedwacker or JEMS can shed some light on this one? Maybe they transferred it in mono from a stereo tape, and it still doesn't sound any different ?
Although most of these audience tapes seem to be transferred in stereo, the sound itself is still usually mono. The tape transfer may create differences in information in each channel, but there is no audible difference.
Great tapes like Montreal 78 are clearly in stereo, but most of the audience tapes are in mono.
Why Seattle 77 turned out to be digitally different is anyone's guess. Or maybe Weedwacker or JEMS can shed some light on this one? Maybe they transferred it in mono from a stereo tape, and it still doesn't sound any different ?
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]OwenSmith wrote:[/b]
The odd thing is all the other Queen bootlegs from that era and earlier are in stereo (at least the ones I have anyway), either on reel to reel or cassette. This is the only one I have that is mono.[/QUOTE]
What have you got on reel to reel ?
The odd thing is all the other Queen bootlegs from that era and earlier are in stereo (at least the ones I have anyway), either on reel to reel or cassette. This is the only one I have that is mono.[/QUOTE]
What have you got on reel to reel ?
OwenSmith
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]OwenSmith wrote:[/b]
The odd thing is all the other Queen bootlegs from that era and earlier are in stereo (at least the ones I have anyway), either on reel to reel or cassette. This is the only one I have that is mono.[/QUOTE]
What have you got on reel to reel ?[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about the bootlegs which have been uploaded here on QueenZone. Some come from reel to reel but they're in stereo. This is the first one I've downloaded and found to be mono. It took me by surprise that's all.
[QUOTE] [b]OwenSmith wrote:[/b]
The odd thing is all the other Queen bootlegs from that era and earlier are in stereo (at least the ones I have anyway), either on reel to reel or cassette. This is the only one I have that is mono.[/QUOTE]
What have you got on reel to reel ?[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about the bootlegs which have been uploaded here on QueenZone. Some come from reel to reel but they're in stereo. This is the first one I've downloaded and found to be mono. It took me by surprise that's all.
OwenSmith
Having now listened to this it is excellent and an era I don't have much from. Thin Lizzy are superb, such a shame their set is incomplete. Queen are great too, it's interesting hearing early 39 live with Roger struggling to do the high flying vocal line, this section of the song being dropped from later live tours presumably because it was so hard to do. Also Somebody To Love live without the audience participation singing or lengthy piano intro is a bit odd, I prefer the way the song developed in the later live tours, though a shame the audience singing was dropped towards the end of its time on the setlist.
One of the things I like most about bootlegs on Queenzone is listening to how the band's live act developed and changed through the years. It's completely fascinating. If I had a time machine there are certain tours I'd be right there for (Queen II, Crazy Tour) and others I'd skip in an instant (News of the World since Freddie's voice is so poor).
One of the things I like most about bootlegs on Queenzone is listening to how the band's live act developed and changed through the years. It's completely fascinating. If I had a time machine there are certain tours I'd be right there for (Queen II, Crazy Tour) and others I'd skip in an instant (News of the World since Freddie's voice is so poor).
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]OwenSmith wrote:[/b]
this section of the song being dropped from later live tours presumably because it was so hard to do.[/QUOTE]
'39 was always performed in its complete form (save for two spontaneous 1980/84 airings). The only major change was in 1978, when they added a harmonizer to Freddie's voice for the last two bars of the interlude so that Roger could drop out.
Glad you find this journey so interesting. If you really want to make your head spin, follow Zeppelin's Dazed And Confused from 69-75. The evolution (and rate of it, at certain points) really is mind-boggling.
this section of the song being dropped from later live tours presumably because it was so hard to do.[/QUOTE]
'39 was always performed in its complete form (save for two spontaneous 1980/84 airings). The only major change was in 1978, when they added a harmonizer to Freddie's voice for the last two bars of the interlude so that Roger could drop out.
Glad you find this journey so interesting. If you really want to make your head spin, follow Zeppelin's Dazed And Confused from 69-75. The evolution (and rate of it, at certain points) really is mind-boggling.
OwenSmith
I'm not a Zeppelin fan. don't even have any of their albums. But thanks for the recommendation.
on my way up
[QUOTE] [b]OwenSmith wrote:[/b]
Having now listened to this it is excellent and an era I don't have much from. Thin Lizzy are superb, such a shame their set is incomplete. Queen are great too, it's interesting hearing early 39 live with Roger struggling to do the high flying vocal line, this section of the song being dropped from later live tours presumably because it was so hard to do. Also Somebody To Love live without the audience participation singing or lengthy piano intro is a bit odd, I prefer the way the song developed in the later live tours, though a shame the audience singing was dropped towards the end of its time on the setlist.
One of the things I like most about bootlegs on Queenzone is listening to how the band's live act developed and changed through the years. It's completely fascinating. If I had a time machine there are certain tours I'd be right there for (Queen II, Crazy Tour) and others I'd skip in an instant (News of the World since Freddie's voice is so poor).[/QUOTE]
Freddie's voice was great during both the US '77 News of the World tour and the European '78 News of the World tour so I guess you mean A day at the races early '77 US tour
Having now listened to this it is excellent and an era I don't have much from. Thin Lizzy are superb, such a shame their set is incomplete. Queen are great too, it's interesting hearing early 39 live with Roger struggling to do the high flying vocal line, this section of the song being dropped from later live tours presumably because it was so hard to do. Also Somebody To Love live without the audience participation singing or lengthy piano intro is a bit odd, I prefer the way the song developed in the later live tours, though a shame the audience singing was dropped towards the end of its time on the setlist.
One of the things I like most about bootlegs on Queenzone is listening to how the band's live act developed and changed through the years. It's completely fascinating. If I had a time machine there are certain tours I'd be right there for (Queen II, Crazy Tour) and others I'd skip in an instant (News of the World since Freddie's voice is so poor).[/QUOTE]
Freddie's voice was great during both the US '77 News of the World tour and the European '78 News of the World tour so I guess you mean A day at the races early '77 US tour
robertcop35
Thanks great Queen show Thin Zizzy didn't sound very good to me but then again.
Stormtrooper076
This is the best I heard for this excellent show. Many thanks
hobbit in Rhye
Thank you Pittrek for this colossal sharing!
As Wizard said it was one of the best Queen concert recordings in existence, I'm very excited to wait for my download to finish,
so I can lay back and enjoy it after a hard day's work (only, I've never done a hard day's work).
As Wizard said it was one of the best Queen concert recordings in existence, I'm very excited to wait for my download to finish,
so I can lay back and enjoy it after a hard day's work (only, I've never done a hard day's work).
99jaystang
Thin Lizzy "still in love with you " guitar solo is amazing. Scott Gorham harmonizing with Gary is great on this show.