What the fuck are you talking about twat?
I'm not a bootlegger.
I videotape concerts. That's it.
Clearly you don't know the difference between a taper and a bootlegger.
I feel sorry for your ignorance.
onevsion
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onevsion
This is the second time you falsely accused me of bootlegging.
Do you have proof for this?
Damn. You're such a fuckin' wanker.
Do you have proof for this?
Damn. You're such a fuckin' wanker.
PauloPanucci
now... i don't care more if the people want to sell his things... but it's not Collecting TRADE???????? i'm not against of sell things here, but........
i don't know what to say more!!!
i don't know what to say more!!!
Jjeroen
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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
Ducksoup:
I would be a hypocrite if [b]I [/b]was starting these threads, but I'm not. I don't need to sell my Queen Collection. When I buy something, it's because I want it. You, on the other hand, really don't care... it's just about making a little money off of someone else's work.
You're just pissed because I'm right. It's not fair what you do, but you'll keep going.
I didn't pay Dave that two grand, I just commented at his take. Besides, Dave offers us quite a nice website. All you do is start "I'm Selling" threads every two weeks or so.
A hypocrite is a person who's [b]actions[/b] belie stated beliefs. Again, I have not sold anything or linked anyone to what I'm selling on ebay. That's you.
Interestingly enough, take a look at these two definitions. They apply to you:
Bootleg: something, as a recording, made, reproduced, or sold illegaly or without authorization
Bootlegger: To make, transport, or sell something illegally, without registration, or payment of taxes.
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Man, what is your problem??
Since when is it a crime in here to link to private auctions on eBay or where ever?
It never was, it never will be. Here on QZ, we have ZERO problems with people that want or need to sell a part of their collection presenting it straight to a group of people who might have interest in the items. Any "official" moderator of QZ would tell you the same.
'Making money from other peoples work'?? 'Unfair'??? WTF??
Give me a break - I never knew that clearing the attic was questionable. As much as selling records or memorabilia has NEVER been a questionable activity. If it comes from one's personal collection, or if one makes a living out of 'dealing' records does not make a difference. If you have a problem with it, you better complain to eBay or whatever auction or sale website, for there are MILLIONS of people clearing their attic every single day.
Jees, it even seems that you find it unnatural for people to first want an item and later (maybe years or decades later) not seeing the same emotional value in them anymore and decide that they want to part with it. It's fine if you want to hold on to all the stuff you ever buy for the rest of your days - pascifiers and babydolls included. Be aware though: it takes space! Sorry, but if you are aged between 25 and 35 and still treasure all the stuff that you bought 15 to 20 years ago as much as you did back in the day, THEN there is something wrong with you!
And you are getting out of line with that bootlegging stuff you accuse Ducksoup of. (AGAIN!)
Neither of your definitions apply to him. You are unrightfully accusing someone of illegal activities. In public! There actually is a legal definition for THAT!
Go somewhere else with your obvious frustrations about God knows what. Cause it obviously is not Ducksoup selling his collection - if that IS the thing that realy frustrates you, you are pretty pathetic.
[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
Ducksoup:
I would be a hypocrite if [b]I [/b]was starting these threads, but I'm not. I don't need to sell my Queen Collection. When I buy something, it's because I want it. You, on the other hand, really don't care... it's just about making a little money off of someone else's work.
You're just pissed because I'm right. It's not fair what you do, but you'll keep going.
I didn't pay Dave that two grand, I just commented at his take. Besides, Dave offers us quite a nice website. All you do is start "I'm Selling" threads every two weeks or so.
A hypocrite is a person who's [b]actions[/b] belie stated beliefs. Again, I have not sold anything or linked anyone to what I'm selling on ebay. That's you.
Interestingly enough, take a look at these two definitions. They apply to you:
Bootleg: something, as a recording, made, reproduced, or sold illegaly or without authorization
Bootlegger: To make, transport, or sell something illegally, without registration, or payment of taxes.
[/QUOTE]
Man, what is your problem??
Since when is it a crime in here to link to private auctions on eBay or where ever?
It never was, it never will be. Here on QZ, we have ZERO problems with people that want or need to sell a part of their collection presenting it straight to a group of people who might have interest in the items. Any "official" moderator of QZ would tell you the same.
'Making money from other peoples work'?? 'Unfair'??? WTF??
Give me a break - I never knew that clearing the attic was questionable. As much as selling records or memorabilia has NEVER been a questionable activity. If it comes from one's personal collection, or if one makes a living out of 'dealing' records does not make a difference. If you have a problem with it, you better complain to eBay or whatever auction or sale website, for there are MILLIONS of people clearing their attic every single day.
Jees, it even seems that you find it unnatural for people to first want an item and later (maybe years or decades later) not seeing the same emotional value in them anymore and decide that they want to part with it. It's fine if you want to hold on to all the stuff you ever buy for the rest of your days - pascifiers and babydolls included. Be aware though: it takes space! Sorry, but if you are aged between 25 and 35 and still treasure all the stuff that you bought 15 to 20 years ago as much as you did back in the day, THEN there is something wrong with you!
And you are getting out of line with that bootlegging stuff you accuse Ducksoup of. (AGAIN!)
Neither of your definitions apply to him. You are unrightfully accusing someone of illegal activities. In public! There actually is a legal definition for THAT!
Go somewhere else with your obvious frustrations about God knows what. Cause it obviously is not Ducksoup selling his collection - if that IS the thing that realy frustrates you, you are pretty pathetic.
onevsion
You said it all. Thanks for that.
Some additions from my side about this "selling your queen collection" thing Microwave seems to have such a big problem with (altough I don't think that's his real problem with me. He's just trying to bully me..)
If we read the subtitle of this Queen collecting and trading forum it reads:
[i]Discuss your recordings, swapping , no selling
[/i]
To me, [b]and please YourValentine or Richard (the forum mods/owner) correct me if I'm wrong[/b], the 'no selling' part has to do with recordings as in ROIO's and VOIO's. We all know ROIO's and VOIO's are for free trade only (swapping): hence the 'no selling' part in the subtitle.
Of course it's not forbidden to sell a Queen fan some LPs singles or memorabilia you have from your own personal collection and don't want anymore. Why would it be? On Queen's official webforum there's even a special corner for this ([url=http://queenforum.parlophone.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=36&sid=720476ce98486f5164dc9d8190de2710]http://queenforum.parlophone.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=36&sid=720476ce98486f5164dc9d8190de2710[/url])
Also, as long as the official fan club publishes magazines one can send in personal adds to be published for free in the fanclub magazine. No problem at all.
Microwave just can't stand me since the day I called most of his posts childish in another topic.
That's when he started with al this childish bullyin' and libel at me.
But listen Microwave, there's one thing you just must clearly understand:LIBEL (falsely accusing someone of punishable acts) is a crime. Also in your country.
You did just that to me. TWICE. Think about it.
Some additions from my side about this "selling your queen collection" thing Microwave seems to have such a big problem with (altough I don't think that's his real problem with me. He's just trying to bully me..)
If we read the subtitle of this Queen collecting and trading forum it reads:
[i]Discuss your recordings, swapping , no selling
[/i]
To me, [b]and please YourValentine or Richard (the forum mods/owner) correct me if I'm wrong[/b], the 'no selling' part has to do with recordings as in ROIO's and VOIO's. We all know ROIO's and VOIO's are for free trade only (swapping): hence the 'no selling' part in the subtitle.
Of course it's not forbidden to sell a Queen fan some LPs singles or memorabilia you have from your own personal collection and don't want anymore. Why would it be? On Queen's official webforum there's even a special corner for this ([url=http://queenforum.parlophone.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=36&sid=720476ce98486f5164dc9d8190de2710]http://queenforum.parlophone.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=36&sid=720476ce98486f5164dc9d8190de2710[/url])
Also, as long as the official fan club publishes magazines one can send in personal adds to be published for free in the fanclub magazine. No problem at all.
Microwave just can't stand me since the day I called most of his posts childish in another topic.
That's when he started with al this childish bullyin' and libel at me.
But listen Microwave, there's one thing you just must clearly understand:LIBEL (falsely accusing someone of punishable acts) is a crime. Also in your country.
You did just that to me. TWICE. Think about it.
on my way up
I don't understand what Microwave is going on about.
What is the problem? Ducksoup bought official products and now wants to sell them. That is not only possible but it is also his right(unless the person who brought the product on the market decided otherwise, for example a free cd that was given away with a newspaper and may only be sold together with that newspaper)! And that bit between brackets is a regulation we only know in Belgium. From an intellectual property law- point of view there's no problem whatsoever.
There's totally no problem selling such items and in my view also no problem to promote them here.
If you want to sell your car you'd go to a forum about cars, not?
What is the problem? Ducksoup bought official products and now wants to sell them. That is not only possible but it is also his right(unless the person who brought the product on the market decided otherwise, for example a free cd that was given away with a newspaper and may only be sold together with that newspaper)! And that bit between brackets is a regulation we only know in Belgium. From an intellectual property law- point of view there's no problem whatsoever.
There's totally no problem selling such items and in my view also no problem to promote them here.
If you want to sell your car you'd go to a forum about cars, not?
Jjeroen
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Ducksoup wrote:
To me, [b]and please YourValentine or Richard (the forum mods/owner) correct me if I'm wrong[/b], the 'no selling' part has to do with recordings as in ROIO's and VOIO's.
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Indeed.
Ducksoup wrote:
To me, [b]and please YourValentine or Richard (the forum mods/owner) correct me if I'm wrong[/b], the 'no selling' part has to do with recordings as in ROIO's and VOIO's.
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[/QUOTE]
Indeed.
Saint Jiub
I think Microwave's panties are in a wad. No wonder he has so many to give away.
Micrówave
Wow, Panchgani. I'm still on your mind?
Instead of the panties, maybe I'll send you an 8x10 of me for you to hold up with one hand...
Now, back to my "point".
1. 32 Ducksoup I'm Selling My Collection threads aren't really necessary, are they? Can't he just "BUMP" the original thread?
2. There is NO moderation for the selling of product on this site. Therefore, it shouldn't be used to do such. I think I've seen a couple of threads started by people getting ripped off.
3. And retouching my previous statement... Imagine an idiot like Erick McKay posting more senseless bullshit for the next six months. Next thing you know, he's a Queenzone Diety with 3000 posts. Then some unsuspecting victim thinks he's got credibility and might buy something he's selling instead of some honest "newbie" with 10 posts. That's not fair, and I believe in a fair market.
Instead of the panties, maybe I'll send you an 8x10 of me for you to hold up with one hand...
Now, back to my "point".
1. 32 Ducksoup I'm Selling My Collection threads aren't really necessary, are they? Can't he just "BUMP" the original thread?
2. There is NO moderation for the selling of product on this site. Therefore, it shouldn't be used to do such. I think I've seen a couple of threads started by people getting ripped off.
3. And retouching my previous statement... Imagine an idiot like Erick McKay posting more senseless bullshit for the next six months. Next thing you know, he's a Queenzone Diety with 3000 posts. Then some unsuspecting victim thinks he's got credibility and might buy something he's selling instead of some honest "newbie" with 10 posts. That's not fair, and I believe in a fair market.
Micrówave
and Jjereon...
[QUOTE]Sorry, but if you are aged between 25 and 35 and still treasure all the stuff that you bought 15 to 20 years ago as much as you did back in the day, THEN there is something wrong with you! [/QUOTE]
Oh, thanks, I did not know that. So if I buy something and sell if for pennies on the dollar years later, I'm a wise investor? Please don't become a financial advisor.
Selling bootleg albums IS making money off an artist who is not paid for that bootleg and has no creative control over it. What's your problem, dude? If he's selling an official release, I have no problem with that... except using this as a portal. See my above post about fair market. Again, stay away from the financial world.
WIth respect, Jjereon.
[QUOTE]Sorry, but if you are aged between 25 and 35 and still treasure all the stuff that you bought 15 to 20 years ago as much as you did back in the day, THEN there is something wrong with you! [/QUOTE]
Oh, thanks, I did not know that. So if I buy something and sell if for pennies on the dollar years later, I'm a wise investor? Please don't become a financial advisor.
Selling bootleg albums IS making money off an artist who is not paid for that bootleg and has no creative control over it. What's your problem, dude? If he's selling an official release, I have no problem with that... except using this as a portal. See my above post about fair market. Again, stay away from the financial world.
WIth respect, Jjereon.
Jjeroen
[QUOTE]
[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
and Jjereon...
[QUOTE]Sorry, but if you are aged between 25 and 35 and still treasure all the stuff that you bought 15 to 20 years ago as much as you did back in the day, THEN there is something wrong with you! [/QUOTE]
Oh, thanks, I did not know that. So if I buy something and sell if for pennies on the dollar years later, I'm a wise investor? Please don't become a financial advisor.
Selling bootleg albums IS making money off an artist who is not paid for that bootleg and has no creative control over it. What's your problem, dude? If he's selling an official release, I have no problem with that... except using this as a portal. See my above post about fair market. Again, stay away from the financial world.
WIth respect, Jjereon.
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I'm not talking about investments, Micro.
Not all records I buy, I buy for their potential added value later on.
As much as Ducksoup doesn't either, and I'm sure yourself. Besides; about the 'low' interest at the moment, that is not entirely true. The real gems still fetch their price. (Also Ducksoup had some very good deals for his MIH black vinyl, or his alternate cover Queen Rocks for instance!) On the other hand, a UK pressing Radio GaGa 7" fetches basically nothing and even economically glorious days won't make a difference that is worthy of mentioning.
ALSO: second hand stuff in general rarely makes more money years later then the price it originally kost (taking relativity and inflation into acount). But the fun or use one had from the item over the years, is also worth a price. If I would sell stuff, I would not NEED more then the original buying price.
Anyway; drifting off here. Bottom line is that Ducksoup is not a 'dealer', or investor, he's just a fan that got tired of having a house that is full of Queen stuff he is no longer interested in. Thus it needs to go. He has a couple of options: throwing the stuff in the dustbin, selling it on a flea market for one euro, or try make it two euro's on eBay.
And as far as I can see, Ducksoup doesn't advertise any bootlegs in here!
He has only advertised official 7"es, 12"es, albums, cassette-singles and promo-posters...
[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
and Jjereon...
[QUOTE]Sorry, but if you are aged between 25 and 35 and still treasure all the stuff that you bought 15 to 20 years ago as much as you did back in the day, THEN there is something wrong with you! [/QUOTE]
Oh, thanks, I did not know that. So if I buy something and sell if for pennies on the dollar years later, I'm a wise investor? Please don't become a financial advisor.
Selling bootleg albums IS making money off an artist who is not paid for that bootleg and has no creative control over it. What's your problem, dude? If he's selling an official release, I have no problem with that... except using this as a portal. See my above post about fair market. Again, stay away from the financial world.
WIth respect, Jjereon.
[/QUOTE]
I'm not talking about investments, Micro.
Not all records I buy, I buy for their potential added value later on.
As much as Ducksoup doesn't either, and I'm sure yourself. Besides; about the 'low' interest at the moment, that is not entirely true. The real gems still fetch their price. (Also Ducksoup had some very good deals for his MIH black vinyl, or his alternate cover Queen Rocks for instance!) On the other hand, a UK pressing Radio GaGa 7" fetches basically nothing and even economically glorious days won't make a difference that is worthy of mentioning.
ALSO: second hand stuff in general rarely makes more money years later then the price it originally kost (taking relativity and inflation into acount). But the fun or use one had from the item over the years, is also worth a price. If I would sell stuff, I would not NEED more then the original buying price.
Anyway; drifting off here. Bottom line is that Ducksoup is not a 'dealer', or investor, he's just a fan that got tired of having a house that is full of Queen stuff he is no longer interested in. Thus it needs to go. He has a couple of options: throwing the stuff in the dustbin, selling it on a flea market for one euro, or try make it two euro's on eBay.
And as far as I can see, Ducksoup doesn't advertise any bootlegs in here!
He has only advertised official 7"es, 12"es, albums, cassette-singles and promo-posters...
onevsion
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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
Selling bootleg albums IS making money off an artist who is not paid for that bootleg and has no creative control over it. What's your problem, dude? If he's selling an official release, I have no problem with that...
[/QUOTE]
Why are you keep telling that? It's a blatant lie.
I never sold bootlegs. I only advertised offiical released items such as: Vinyl / cassette singles / promo posters / dvds. My eBay feedback is 100% positive. I never ripped someone off.
[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
Selling bootleg albums IS making money off an artist who is not paid for that bootleg and has no creative control over it. What's your problem, dude? If he's selling an official release, I have no problem with that...
[/QUOTE]
Why are you keep telling that? It's a blatant lie.
I never sold bootlegs. I only advertised offiical released items such as: Vinyl / cassette singles / promo posters / dvds. My eBay feedback is 100% positive. I never ripped someone off.
onevsion
[QUOTE]
[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
Now, back to my "point".
1. 32 Ducksoup I'm Selling My Collection threads aren't really necessary, are they? Can't he just "BUMP" the original thread?
[/QUOTE]
Again: what are you talking about? I made 2 topics in wich I advertised my "Queen collection for sale"
One of them was bumped many times by myself when I had new items for sale.
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1161863/queen-collection-for-sale.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1161863/queen-collection-for-sale.aspx[/url]
You even made a joke about it ("mint bump") wich I thought was rather funny.
Get your facts right Microwave: I'm not a bootlegger and I did not start God knows how many topics to sell my collection.
Stop accusing me of things I didn't do.
[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
Now, back to my "point".
1. 32 Ducksoup I'm Selling My Collection threads aren't really necessary, are they? Can't he just "BUMP" the original thread?
[/QUOTE]
Again: what are you talking about? I made 2 topics in wich I advertised my "Queen collection for sale"
One of them was bumped many times by myself when I had new items for sale.
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1161863/queen-collection-for-sale.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1161863/queen-collection-for-sale.aspx[/url]
You even made a joke about it ("mint bump") wich I thought was rather funny.
Get your facts right Microwave: I'm not a bootlegger and I did not start God knows how many topics to sell my collection.
Stop accusing me of things I didn't do.
onevsion
Oh wait...
I made 3 topics to sell the collection in a perdiod for over half a year time...
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1175078/rare-original-promo-poster-for-sale.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1175078/rare-original-promo-poster-for-sale.aspx[/url]
well well... that would be a crime.... 3 Queenzone topics in about six months time to sell the collection. That's completely unacceptable behaviour... LOL.
I made 3 topics to sell the collection in a perdiod for over half a year time...
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1175078/rare-original-promo-poster-for-sale.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1175078/rare-original-promo-poster-for-sale.aspx[/url]
well well... that would be a crime.... 3 Queenzone topics in about six months time to sell the collection. That's completely unacceptable behaviour... LOL.
Rick
Feel the heat, Microwave?
I love irony and ambiguity.
I love irony and ambiguity.