Why Roger and Freddie (solo) Got it right, but brian failed.

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Queen was Tim Staffell!!!

YEAH i SAID IT!



 



 



 

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Perhaps neither would Freddie Mercury, or Freddie Bulsara for that matter.



 



 



 



I have said it elsewhere and got 'flamed' for it, but Freddie was pretty shit before he joined 'Smile' and worked f*kin hard to improve to be good enough for the band he was a big fan of.



 



 



 



Brian on the other hand, I believe would have made it big with almost any band he was in because of his raw natural talent and his unique sound. Brian would not have made a solo career because he cannot sing well enough (for the public perception) but at that stage of their careers, HE was the one with the most talent.



 



 



 



Brian was always a genius, Freddie BECAME one.



 








 

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you can't change history my friend,  Brian may is a legend, but not a genious.  Watch any documentary even before freddie's death and it's all about freddie. Sometimes I got the feeling that people were forced too say something about the others.  Influence?....not even close, so let's not even go there.  Now,   if it wasn't for bo rhap queen would be no more.  Freddie's performance at live aid was considered the best performance ever by many.  Brian was great and was musically the sound of Queen,  but most people considered the vocals the most important, as I do.  90% of the public think's of freddie mercury when someone mentions Queen.  History has proven this, if brian was the true genious of Queen he would be mentioned as such. but he's not, and nothing said on this site will change that.  Again, obvouisly musically it's brian, but most people think Queen were a little above average musically, that's not good for brian and roger. and John.

now back on topic,  For me a solo album is suppose to be trying something different.  Freddie did that especially with the brilliant barcelona.  Roger did that.  That EP he did with yoshiki was far superior than anything brian did solo wise.   Another world I consider weak,  and not trying anything new. He's actually copying satriani in most of his songs....He doesn't even sound original.

I don't think that Brian HAD to go diffrent way just to show it. He did it how he felt. You can't force somebody to change direction if he doesn't want it. Because by that way he knows what is he doing.
And about that Freddie vs Brian thing- people (which are not deeply intrested in music) know just lead singers, they don't pay attention to the others in the band. It was always like that and will be. But if you try to dig deeper you will discover much more than that

Maybe the fact that Brian's solo albums are more like Queen that the others indicates that Brian was the major part of the Queen sound. Maybe Roger and Fred's solo careers indicate what type of band Queen would've been if they were the main influences.

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I don't think that Brian HAD to go diffrent way just to show it. He did it how he felt. You can't force somebody to change direction if he doesn't want it. Because by that way he knows what is he doing.
And about that Freddie vs Brian thing- people (which are not deeply intrested in music) know just lead singers, they don't pay attention to the others in the band. It was always like that and will be. But if you try to dig deeper you will discover much more than that[/QUOTE]



yea, but why is every member of the who and led zep equally famous, and all considered brilliant.  Queen are mega big, so if brian may was truly this genious people at queenzone think he is then why doesn't anyone else ever say it. Even slash say's brian is a fine player, doesn't say genious.  I grew up with musicians, and have lots of musician friends. Not one say's brian was or is a genious. Only on this site I'v seen this.

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I don't think that Brian HAD to go diffrent way just to show it. He did it how he felt. You can't force somebody to change direction if he doesn't want it. Because by that way he knows what is he doing.
And about that Freddie vs Brian thing- people (which are not deeply intrested in music) know just lead singers, they don't pay attention to the others in the band. It was always like that and will be. But if you try to dig deeper you will discover much more than that

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yea, but why is every member of the who and led zep equally famous, and all considered brilliant.  Queen are mega big, so if brian may was truly this genious people at queenzone think he is then why doesn't anyone else ever say it. Even slash say's brian is a fine player, doesn't say genious.  I grew up with musicians, and have lots of musician friends. Not one say's brian was or is a genious. Only on this site I'v seen this.


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I'm not saying he is genious either:)! I just respect him a lot and and love his music whether in Queen or solo. I'm sure there are people wich consider May is a genious, you just never met them personally[img=/images/smiley/msn/regular_smile.gif][/img] ! Most people which I know don't know who are Led Zeppelin and The Who!

ok, your young.  How can your friends not know who the fucking who are?

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I see you are surprized:). If you have read my profile, you know where I am from. And young people here listen just local crap. Which I can't bear. I have big plans to move from here, I hope it will work!

ok, at least you have good taste.

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Thanks!

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I disagree. Freddie's Mr Bad Guy is an awful album in my opinion
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So bad that it was plundered by Queen themselves for "MIH", charted post Live Aid, and again in remixes post Fred's death.

It wasn't unilaterally bad, it was just covered in 80's.  Once the other guys cleaned them up, the songs had a chance to shine a bit.

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As Georg Purvis said about the [i]Nothin' But Blue[/i] track from [i]Back To The Light[/i], "Essentially a showcase for for the Red Special, in which Brian all but makes his instrument weep............"

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But didn't Brian use an Ibanez (which was a present from Joe Satriani) on that track, and it doesn't feature the Red Special at all???  I don't know of George Purvis, , but it seems like he doesn't know what he's listening to?!!
(with no malice or insult intended)

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As Georg Purvis said about the [i]Nothin' But Blue[/i] track from [i]Back To The Light[/i], "Essentially a showcase for for the Red Special, in which Brian all but makes his instrument weep............"


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But didn't Brian use an Ibanez (which was a present from Joe Satriani) on that track, and it doesn't feature the Red Special at all???  I don't know of George Purvis, , but it seems like he doesn't know what he's listening to?!!
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Did Bri used an ibanez???? did joe gave to him??? i didn't know about this!!!

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As Georg Purvis said about the [i]Nothin' But Blue[/i] track from [i]Back To The Light[/i], "Essentially a showcase for for the Red Special, in which Brian all but makes his instrument weep............"


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But didn't Brian use an Ibanez (which was a present from Joe Satriani) on that track, and it doesn't feature the Red Special at all???  I don't know of George Purvis, , but it seems like he doesn't know what he's listening to?!!
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The point I previously made. It was a showcase for Brian's ability, not the RS.