Songwriters

I ask you; do you ever write a song which (I guess) isn't particularly good but is the best thing you could possibly write at a point in time because it is so peculiarly 'you'?
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I've started a thread like this except it was Share Your Songs.  Nobody participated :(

Yes I'm a songwriter.

That's ok, I don't expect people will participate in this - and I certainly can't share mine, it's not recorded yet!
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[/QUOTE]It's just a peculiar feeling I got.  After months with no songs to offer (my bandmate on the other hand has about 10) I had an epiphany last night and this fully formed song shot out.  And it's just so .... er .... apt.  I wasn't even trying.  [/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]Just wondering how y'all felt about that kind of experience, heh.[/QUOTE]

I've written around 70+ songs in only one year.  Is that impressive?  I think it's a good start.  I have about 20 recorded (instrumental version anyways)

I want to form a band but the band my friends are in have about 7 people already.  I need to put some advertisements out and start auditioning sometime.  There's plenty of time for that though.  I am only 16

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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]

I ask you; do you ever write a song which (I guess) isn't particularly good but is the best thing you could possibly write at a point in time because it is so peculiarly 'you'?
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[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] It's a very interesting thread and it would be sad if people didn't share their experiences. 

I have absolutely no talent for writing songs. None at all. I have some physical, motor skills but there's actually nothing musical inside of me: I'm as dry as a dead fallen thin branch in the ruthless summer sunshine.
 
The closest to this experience you describe I ever had was borne out of a failure in the execution of a stupid canon I had already played hundreds of times before. I started to feel a pain in one of my left-hand fingers and was tired, it was one of the last presentations; I wrongly tried to reposition my hands to relieve the pain and my left-hand ended up slipping over some three keys and I immediately changed the second voicing to a different mode and for about 0:30 seconds I developed the melody in this way. I knew the second I did it that it sounded nice, at least to me. 

After the thing, I was exhilarated. I remember going to a bar of sorts inside the theater and ordering a coke or something. I took some time to rejoin the band at the backstage (it sounds fancy, but it was actually just a wooden structrure and table on which there was water and some food for part of the band; it was never enough for the whole band!). 

As I walked up the plataform I look at one of my teachers and I was frozen with fear. The relief arrived when he came to give me a very brief (hehe) hug and said: "Great job there!" Those who had noticed it, especially a dear friend of mine, congratulated me on the "exquisite variation". 

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So that's it. It wasn't something particularly good, it was, in fact, borne out of a mistake I had made, I didn't know, and don't know, up until today how I managed to recover the shape of the melody, but I knew it had been my greatest artistic output at that time. 

No one cared about it the day after the performance, but it kept being important to me as an endearing moment of my life and a reminder that I might do something which, albeit absolutely little and even insignificant to others, meant a lot to me and showed me that I had something more than a score printed in my mind.

I actually don't write songs, but I write poems. I could write the lyrics for a song-  but nobody need it. Besides- it's important to participate with other musicians.
About the writing- sometimes it comes quickly. It's like a flash in my head. Sometimes I can't write for a couple of months. Mostly it depends on my mood and ideas.

I write music, but not songs. Unless "songs without words" still count as songs. I prefer instrumental music.

Ha!  I still count instrumentals as songs.  Marwa Blues anyone?

I might share some lyrics here if you guys promise to comment on them (good comments and bad comments are both acceptable)

ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing.
and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters?
"can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-p

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[b]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: [/b]

ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing.
and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters?
"can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-p[/QUOTE]
lol wow. 

Here's some lyrics I don't plan on using so I won't worry about anyone stealing them

Everywhere I look I see
another star in the stormy skies tonight.
Everywhere I go I find
another day where the sun shines a little bit brighter light

I've walked around the grassy plains
I've ran across the desert lands
only to find
a little bit of change
gone away

Every single night I dream
of a place where there's no war or famine
Every time a I awake from a dream
I can see that the world can be a dangerous place to live

I've sailed across my seven seas
I live to serve, I live to please
only to see
a little bit of change
gone away

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[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]

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[b]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: [/b]



ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing.
and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters?
"can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-p

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lol wow. 

Here's some lyrics I don't plan on using so I won't worry about anyone stealing them

Everywhere I look I see
another star in the stormy skies tonight.
Everywhere I go I find
another day where the sun shines a little bit brighter light

I've walked around the grassy plains
I've ran across the desert lands
only to find
a little bit of change
gone away

Every single night I dream
of a place where there's no war or famine
Every time a I awake from a dream
I can see that the world can be a dangerous place to live

I've sailed across my seven seas
I live to serve, I live to please
only to see
a little bit of change
gone away






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Better than any of TCR's lyrics, for sure. And it addresses all those issues dear to Brian: CHANGE - this secular surrogate of a mantra - famine, world, light, war.
 
TCR style would be:

"War is totally out
Peace should be in
The world is drying out
Humanity is giving in

Let's go and cry out loud
For change is within our reach!

(solo)"
 
And that's one of my major problems with TCR - lalaalalaa is 16 years-old. Roger is 83. So you'd expect by him something in the vein of lalaalalaa's lyrics at least - some decent imagery, some lyrical content. But no: all we've got is "Surf's Up, School's Out": I refuse to have anything to do with an album featuring such lyrics. It doesn't concern me.

"Oh, do you like Queen, don't you? They have just..."

My answer: "No, I guess you're wrong. I hate Queen. I've been so into 50cent's anatomical studies lately. I just wrote this paper: Metaphors of the Body: 50cent and the Candy Shop."

id like to think what ive got to write is pure gold 8-)


lol i keed. but theres so often i come up with bits nad pieces of songs, and they never really see the light of day because they sound unnatural. they dont fit in with anything anywhere, so eventually they turn into a collage. thats why my stuff sounds so ADD like.

im just gonna go now...

Cool stuff peoples.
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[/QUOTE]I have another problem with my writing.  It seems like I write the same song every time .... not word for word or the melody, but structure wise.  I mean, it gets better every time I do it, but in the process it sort of renders older songs unusable because while they're ok it's like - "why bother, I have a better one now".[/QUOTE]

^i always found it easier to bounce things off my 'Creative partner' and he used to do the same,there be many a time where i would go to his place for a few bottles of Red Rock Cider [its not red and it has no rocks in it] and he would say " ive got this little melody,what can you write for it?" and the next thing i knew i'd have half the lyrics written down and maybe even the chorus too.
but then there were times when i would have written the lyrics and i couldnt get the tune from the head onto the guitar and i'd shelve the lyrics into my folder [i never threw them away] and months,sometimes years down the road Mat would just show me a riff he had created and it would fit in perfectly with lyrics i'd written when God was a lad.