I know things are not that simple. But in the main I fully agree with...Obama! ;-)))
“I, out of an effort to give Congress the ability to do their thing and not step on their toes, probably left too much ambiguity out there, which allowed the opponents of reform to come in and to fill up the airwaves with a lot of nonsense". ([url=http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/health/policy/10health.html]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/health/policy/10health.html[/url])
That is: I do think one of his main problems as a President is governing as if he were still a candidate, indulging himself in vagueness and amibiguity. This is a sign of weakness and lack of resolution - he was more or less forced to take a clearer stance on the issue of health-care because his popularity began to erode among his supporters.
@ Cacatua
He's sure going to have a hard-time with this issue.
From a quite decent review of his speech (link above): "To help raise revenues to offset the cost of overhauling health care, Mr. Obama took a stand on an issue about which he has equivocated for months. He endorsed the idea of imposing a fee, or tax, on health insurance companies for “their most expensive policies.” Proponents say the idea, which originated with Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, would encourage employers to buy cheaper, less generous coverage for employees, thereby reducing excessive use of medical services.
But many House Democrats, labor unions and insurers have resisted those proposals, saying the tax would often be passed on to employers and to workers in the form of higher premiums.
That suggested a problem for Mr. Obama in endorsing the fee: If it was drafted in a way that meant new costs for union workers with generous insurance policies, that could be seen as violating a campaign promise not to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year."
Let's wait and see how it develops. The outline of his plan is still very vague and the problem of "how to" is being duly avoided in public discourse.
If Baucus' plan works just as he said it should work, then some of these problems may be avoided; on the other hand, a health-care plan which is "deficit neutral" risks falling short of its goals.
In a short time from now I may be in your country for good. I'll strike you with a deluxe edition of Tarás Bulba and send you to hospital to TEST THE SYSTEM. ; -)))) Hehe.
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I'll have you know that my spanking new hardbound [i]Modern Library[/i] edition of [i]Taras Bulba[/i] arrived just today!!
I have survived being kicked in the head by my [i]former [/i]camel's two front feet, so it would take far more than this small [i]Taras Bulba[/i] volume to put me in the hospital! :oP))))))))))
Besides, I'll believe anything will change for the better as far as my insurance is concerned when I see it! I'll likely be on medicare myself before that ever happens.
Condolences on coming to our screwy country. Watch out for the right-wingnuts - they may be trying to thump YOU over the head with a [i]Bible[/i]!
Oh, and don't forget to pack your TCR album! ;o)
«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» · Member since
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Anyone see the movie "SICKO" by Michael Moore???
It tells it like it is!!
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Haven't actually seen it though I've heard about it a lot. It is the sort of thing that rings true to liberals and the right-wingers call MM a Nazi, disqualifying anything he has produced.
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You should really check it out and judge it for yourself. It really is worth seeing!
Yara · Member since
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@ Catqueen
I know things are not that simple. But in the main I fully agree with...Obama! ;-)))
“I, out of an effort to give Congress the ability to do their thing and not step on their toes, probably left too much ambiguity out there, which allowed the opponents of reform to come in and to fill up the airwaves with a lot of nonsense". ([url=http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/health/policy/10health.html]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/health/policy/10health.html[/url])
That is: I do think one of his main problems as a President is governing as if he were still a candidate, indulging himself in vagueness and amibiguity. This is a sign of weakness and lack of resolution - he was more or less forced to take a clearer stance on the issue of health-care because his popularity began to erode among his supporters.
@ Cacatua
He's sure going to have a hard-time with this issue.
From a quite decent review of his speech (link above): "To help raise revenues to offset the cost of overhauling health care, Mr. Obama took a stand on an issue about which he has equivocated for months. He endorsed the idea of imposing a fee, or tax, on health insurance companies for “their most expensive policies.” Proponents say the idea, which originated with Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, would encourage employers to buy cheaper, less generous coverage for employees, thereby reducing excessive use of medical services.
But many House Democrats, labor unions and insurers have resisted those proposals, saying the tax would often be passed on to employers and to workers in the form of higher premiums.
That suggested a problem for Mr. Obama in endorsing the fee: If it was drafted in a way that meant new costs for union workers with generous insurance policies, that could be seen as violating a campaign promise not to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year."
Let's wait and see how it develops. The outline of his plan is still very vague and the problem of "how to" is being duly avoided in public discourse.
If Baucus' plan works just as he said it should work, then some of these problems may be avoided; on the other hand, a health-care plan which is "deficit neutral" risks falling short of its goals.
In a short time from now I may be in your country for good. I'll strike you with a deluxe edition of Tarás Bulba and send you to hospital to TEST THE SYSTEM. ; -)))) Hehe.
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I'll have you know that my spanking new hardbound [i]Modern Library[/i] edition of [i]Taras Bulba[/i] arrived just today!!
I have survived being kicked in the head by my [i]former [/i]camel's two front feet, so it would take far more than this small [i]Taras Bulba[/i] volume to put me in the hospital! :oP))))))))))
Besides, I'll believe anything will change for the better as far as my insurance is concerned when I see it! I'll likely be on medicare myself before that ever happens.
Condolences on coming to our screwy country. Watch out for the right-wingnuts - they may be trying to thump YOU over the head with a [i]Bible[/i]!
Oh, and don't forget to pack your TCR album! ;o)
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Hm. Nice to get to KNOW people. You survived the attack, but it took its toll on you. This kick you mentioned explains why you like TCR. ; -)) QP should hire some camels to break into fans' conventions and record stores. Gone are the times of the bycicles! They'd tour like Queen+Kayne West and release the "Live in Cairo DVD". :p
Given my stubborness, in a contest between my head and the bible I think the latter would probably lose out! I'd shatter it to pieces with my forehead, just like Van Damme used to do in his movies, though he picked bricks as a target, probably to make things easier. Bricks don't preach and have no one to defend them...
I'd go for the REAL THING!
Well...nice to know that you FINALLY have gotten the book. : o) I hope you enjoy it! It's a great read. It's interesting, thought-provoking and very entertaining. At least I think so. I hope you like it! : -)))))
