[QUOTE][b]mike hunt wrote:
[/b]I disagree!....Remember michael was a drug addict. popping pills like it's going out of style. Don't you think all those pills have a negative effect on the heart?....has anyone been charged with murder?......In freddie's case, By 1985 people knew about aids. freddie and his friends should have known better. I'm not being Judging, I'm Just being real. All our mistakes come down to us. god knows I'v made some fucking big ones. No Exuses!....[/QUOTE]
Didn't Michael and our Freddie's friendship suffer when MJ came to know of the latter's cocaine use?
Michael's addiction was for precription drugs. Michael started taking drugs because of the physical pain he suffered. He started with pain killers after the burn incident in late 80s and then moved on to otehr drugs prescribed by his doctors. Probably by the time he realised his dependencs on these drugs, he was addicted.
You could argue that he was responsible for the addiction himself, and you'd be right. But Michael, IMO, did not have the ability to think straight in regular matters and could not make decisions for himself in life becuase his life was controlled through-out by other people, right from childhood. In the Oprah interview in the 90s he said his father still scared the shit out of him.
On another note, there are some psychiatrists who believe that Michael suffered from a mental illness called "alienation of the existential self" which apparently affects many afro-americans.
I'm with you when you say no excuses can be offered for the screw-ups in our own lives.[/QUOTE]
A drug addict is a drug addict!...it doesn't matter how you became one or if it's pills or cocain. Plus, that's only a rumor about michael and freddie. freddie had his own demons Just like michael, and the rest of us. Zebonka was right when we said we overate our idols as people. I'm not a michael fan, I actually think he's grossly overated, but you can't make exuses for everything these guys do. Including freddie, who was plain stupid for sleeping around without a condom.
Crazy LittleThing · Member since
[b]mike hunt wrote:[/b] Zebonka was right when we said we overate our idols as people.
OK, just so long as you're not saying Zebonka is overrated.
john bodega · Member since
(stands up in front of mike hunt and everyone else in the thread) [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]I'm gonna let you guys finish and everything, but I am so much more overrated than you guys. Is all I'm saying. [/QUOTE]
Lisser · Member since
No no no Zeb!! It's IMMA letchooo finish...IMMA...you can't use proper grammar!!!
Get it right, get it tight.
Wurd.
john bodega · Member since
Grammar doesn't care about Zebonka people :(
Crazy LittleThing · Member since
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
Grammar doesn't care about Zebonka people :(
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Oh you got THAT right, Homes. Yo.
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Crazy LittleThing · Member since
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[b]Lisser wrote: [/b]
No no no Zeb!! It's IMMA letchooo finish...IMMA...you can't use proper grammar!!!
Get it right, get it tight.
Wurd.[/QUOTE]
Oh no you di'int! You go girl. Oh yeah, you tell him, girlfriend!
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mike hunt · Member since
we're all overated!...even Zebonka.
mike hunt · Member since
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[b]Lisser wrote: [/b]
Is anyone going to see this movie? I bought my tickets the day they came out. I'm excited to see it but I know it will be sad.[/QUOTE]
The only thing that's sad is little girls like you making such a big deal out of this man!....If you want to spend your money on good music check out the blues. howlin wolf and muddy waters meant way more to music than micheal Jackson.
john bodega · Member since
I hear there's a twist at the end.
Crazy LittleThing · Member since
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
I hear there's a twist at the end.
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No spoilers! Let me guess. He doesn't do the fifty consecutive O2 gigs and the promoters try to keep the money for the concert tickets by claiming the tickets are "collectors' items"? Oh, come ON, dude! That would NEVER happen! Oh, wait . . .
Mr.Jingles · Member since
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
I hear there's a twist at the end.[/QUOTE]
MJs dead body pops out of the casket, then he's joined by hundreds of cemetery corpses, and they do the 'Thriller' dance.
john bodega · Member since
Life imitates art imitates life!
ParisNair · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
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[b]ParisNair wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE][b]mike hunt wrote:
[/b]I disagree!....Remember michael was a drug addict. popping pills like it's going out of style. Don't you think all those pills have a negative effect on the heart?....has anyone been charged with murder?......In freddie's case, By 1985 people knew about aids. freddie and his friends should have known better. I'm not being Judging, I'm Just being real. All our mistakes come down to us. god knows I'v made some fucking big ones. No Exuses!....[/QUOTE]
Didn't Michael and our Freddie's friendship suffer when MJ came to know of the latter's cocaine use?
Michael's addiction was for precription drugs. Michael started taking drugs because of the physical pain he suffered. He started with pain killers after the burn incident in late 80s and then moved on to otehr drugs prescribed by his doctors. Probably by the time he realised his dependencs on these drugs, he was addicted.
You could argue that he was responsible for the addiction himself, and you'd be right. But Michael, IMO, did not have the ability to think straight in regular matters and could not make decisions for himself in life becuase his life was controlled through-out by other people, right from childhood. In the Oprah interview in the 90s he said his father still scared the shit out of him.
On another note, there are some psychiatrists who believe that Michael suffered from a mental illness called "alienation of the existential self" which apparently affects many afro-americans.
I'm with you when you say no excuses can be offered for the screw-ups in our own lives.[/QUOTE]
A drug addict is a drug addict!...it doesn't matter how you became one or if it's pills or cocain. Plus, that's only a rumor about michael and freddie. freddie had his own demons Just like michael, and the rest of us. Zebonka was right when we said we overate our idols as people. I'm not a michael fan, I actually think he's grossly overated, but you can't make exuses for everything these guys do. Including freddie, who was plain stupid for sleeping around without a condom.[/QUOTE]
Funny thng about this discussion is that I don't disagree with anything u or YourValentine have said on the topic. Well, there's nothing more for me to add, other than saying again that MJ's mistakes were mostly due to the pressing circumstances. Ofcourse, he should have known better, but that's the way it is.
About the movie...the movie hall nearby has declared they'll be showing it for 2 weeks in Nov. I'm still in no mood to watch it (for reasons stated before) but I'm not discounting that curiosity may get the better of me. Gettting tickets, even current, should not be a problem I think.
ParisNair · Member since
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[b]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/b]
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
I hear there's a twist at the end.
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MJs dead body pops out of the casket, then he's joined by hundreds of cemetery corpses, and they do the 'Thriller' dance.
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I won't be surprised if we actually see that in some spoof movie.
