I tuned out soon as he mentioned Afghanistan ... I mean seriously, when you make a song too specific, people will never seize upon it. We won't be able to sing his new song in ten years time when the war is going on someplace else. But a song like "Give Peace a Chance"? You can still totally use that.
Olly 1988 · Member since
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I tuned out soon as he mentioned Afghanistan ... I mean seriously, when you make a song too specific, people will never seize upon it. We won't be able to sing his new song in ten years time when the war is going on someplace else. But a song like "Give Peace a Chance"? You can still totally use that. [/QUOTE]
I think lyrically its quite awful really. To have something rhyming with Afghanistan is pretty lame. A bit like, 'Africa' by Toto with the infamous line about the 'serengeti', but atlease that was musically justified and interesting. Hurts me to say it but This man wrote A kind of magic?! Ouch.
riku2 · Member since
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I tuned out soon as he mentioned Afghanistan ... I mean seriously, when you make a song too specific, people will never seize upon it. We won't be able to sing his new song in ten years time when the war is going on someplace else. But a song like "Give Peace a Chance"? You can still totally use that. [/QUOTE]
Well, if one of the main goals of this song was to criticize sending men to Afghanistan it's kind of hard not to mention the country in the song, right?
Vali · Member since
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Hurts me to say it but This man wrote A kind of magic?! Ouch.
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Yes, and he´s also the man who wrote "We don´t make ships and we don´t make cars / but we look real good hanging out in bars".
And Freddie was the man who wrote Bo Rhap and "Black Queen" and years later recorded "My Love Is Dangerous".
We can´t expect perfection from anyone.
That said, as english is not my 1st language and I can´t get all the words quickly when listening to my fave bands (wich are mainly from UK or US), the music in any particular song is what really hits me initially; and I liked the teaser I´ve heard from Roger´s new song; no matter he used "Afghanistan" or he could´ve used "Budokan". Music is what really matters to me.
mike hunt · Member since
Guys, roger is over 60 years of age. Don't be so hard on him.
john bodega · Member since
Truthfully I don't think it's a bad song. It's easy to put the boot into someone's lyrics for being preachy and sacrificing good pacing and scanning to make a point - "Woman is the Nigger of the World" was guilty of that in a great big way. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]I just think his song might have a bit more shelf life if it were aimed more at those unnecessary conflicts in general. Or maybe not. (shrugs) It's not that important either way; weighed up against the subject matter of the song, what does it matter how well his album does!?[/QUOTE]
The Real Wizard · Member since
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Well, if one of the main goals of this song was to criticize sending men to Afghanistan it's kind of hard not to mention the country in the song, right?
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Would the song "Imagine" still be revered decades later if it had mentioned specific politicians, religions, or countries? Consider the words Nixon, Russia, and Christianity being in the song...
Music is timeless and accessible to various situations when it is non-specific. Any great songwriter knows that, especially when they're writing the great song.
Crazy LittleThing · Member since
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If I were Roger I would've mentioned it in every single last sentence of my X-Factor appearance. Either it would've been in the show or he would've appeared very silent. Haha.
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Host: So Roger, do you like the X factor?
RT: Well... ... yeah... ... sure... ... Adam Bolton... is .. ... Great...
I'm sure they would have edited it into something cool like that "Rock Bottom" Homer Simpson interview when he was accused of sexually arrassing his baby sitter.
Couldn't find the real deal but I found this re-enactment. I love how the clock in the back keeps spinning around, hehe :)
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[b]crazy little thing wrote: [/b]I can just imagine Roger peeling the Gummy De Milo off of some babysitter's . . .
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Crazy LittleThing · Member since
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I remember hearing Brian talk about the tax situation in some older interview or other. I remember him specifically quoting some kind of capital gains tax where at Queen's income level if you invested the money you had to pay 98% of the profits in tax. I don't care who you are or how wealthy you may be, nobody likes shovelling absurd amounts of their own money over to the government. Whine on, Rog. Just not on the f&*#ing X-Factor, k?[/QUOTE]
I remember that Brian mentioned the outrageous taxation rate on royalties when during the cringe-worthy interview he did live on the Howard Stern radio show during the Brian May Band days.
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GratefulFan · Member since
You're exactly right! That's the interview I was thinking of, though recalling it now I didn't find it cringeworthy. For all his faults, Howard Stern is actually a good interviewer.
Well, if one of the main goals of this song was to criticize sending men to Afghanistan it's kind of hard not to mention the country in the song, right?
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Would the song "Imagine" still be revered decades later if it had mentioned specific politicians, religions, or countries? Consider the words Nixon, Russia, and Christianity being in the song...
Music is timeless and accessible to various situations when it is non-specific. Any great songwriter knows that, especially when they're writing the great song.
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You are right of course, but my guess is that Roger also knows this. I don't think his goal is to write another Imagine. I just think he's pissed off by a specific thing and therefore writes a specific song about it. I actually don't think he cares if this song will not be relevant in say ten years. I also think that since the boys in Queen have done so many great and epic songs we always expect them to write in a similar manner but perhaps they sometimes want to do simpler things for the heck of it. Anyway, I might be wrong and I haven't even heard the whole song yet so these are just some thoughts of mine.
Riku
Crazy LittleThing · Member since
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You're exactly right! That's the interview I was thinking of, though recalling it now I didn't find it cringeworthy. For all his faults, Howard Stern is actually a good interviewer.
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It was cringeworthy in the sense that Howard is relentless and Brian was too polite to either not answer or tell Howard to stop.
Howard is a good interviewer.
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cacatua · Member since
I'm betting I'll like Roger's single, [i]The Unblinking Eye[/i], a lot better than Adam Lambert's single, [i]For Your Entertainment[/i].
GratefulFan · Member since
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I'm betting I'll like Roger's single, [i]The Unblinking Eye[/i], a lot better than Adam Lambert's single, [i]For Your Entertainment[/i]. [/QUOTE]
Because I do have to work at keeping an open mind on Mr. Lambert, I actually relistened to the track yesterday trying to give it a fresh chance after a poor initial reacation. And, nope, I still don't think much of it. On top of the bewildering autotune there is this horribly loud and intrusive synth beat that actually seems to be in front of his vocals. I mean, just, why?
You'll have your album soon I guess, and will be able to see if there's anything you like. All the full tracks were on YouTube when I was looking yesterday if you just can't wait, and haven't yet heard them.
