I'm not comparing Hitler to Page, I'm using your arguments against you. If you can't see the difference, it's not my problem.
Steve Vai is God.
Matias Merçeauroix
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Wiley
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[b]Holly2003 wrote:
[/b]"Who cares?" A bit ironic, given how desperately you are trying to convince us that Page sucks. How many times have you said it now? Odd behaviour for someone who doesn't care...
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That, my friend, is what trolls do... :)
... but I know Horsie has contributed positively to other threads so I wouldn't call him that. He also did some good old "Treasure Moment bashing" back on the day so he can't be all bad.
I'm not a fan of Page or Led Zep by any means. I did buy a compilation of them like 10 years ago and their live DVD like 4 years ago. I don't think I've listened to them in its entirety but I can still appreciate some very cool tracks in there.
I get the impression (from previous threads) that Horsie is very specific as to what he likes in guitar playing. A certain precision, 'attack' on the strings and timing. Not necessarily a 'shredder' type, but you get the idea.
A more laid back and simplistic approach to guitar playing can also be appreciated, although I admit that hearing Brian's solos for The Cosmos Rocks for the first few times made me think he was being a bit lazy. Those solos eventually grew on me, specially Small and We Believe.
[b]Holly2003 wrote:
[/b]"Who cares?" A bit ironic, given how desperately you are trying to convince us that Page sucks. How many times have you said it now? Odd behaviour for someone who doesn't care...
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That, my friend, is what trolls do... :)
... but I know Horsie has contributed positively to other threads so I wouldn't call him that. He also did some good old "Treasure Moment bashing" back on the day so he can't be all bad.
I'm not a fan of Page or Led Zep by any means. I did buy a compilation of them like 10 years ago and their live DVD like 4 years ago. I don't think I've listened to them in its entirety but I can still appreciate some very cool tracks in there.
I get the impression (from previous threads) that Horsie is very specific as to what he likes in guitar playing. A certain precision, 'attack' on the strings and timing. Not necessarily a 'shredder' type, but you get the idea.
A more laid back and simplistic approach to guitar playing can also be appreciated, although I admit that hearing Brian's solos for The Cosmos Rocks for the first few times made me think he was being a bit lazy. Those solos eventually grew on me, specially Small and We Believe.
Amazon
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
I'm not comparing Hitler to Page, I'm using your arguments against you. If you can't see the difference, it's not my problem.
Steve Vai is God.
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You said that Page sucks even though he's famous and important and said 'good for Hitler.' You were comparing him to Hitler, and as such, I think all of your opinions on this topic are worthless.
[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
I'm not comparing Hitler to Page, I'm using your arguments against you. If you can't see the difference, it's not my problem.
Steve Vai is God.
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You said that Page sucks even though he's famous and important and said 'good for Hitler.' You were comparing him to Hitler, and as such, I think all of your opinions on this topic are worthless.
Matias Merçeauroix
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[b]Amazon wrote: [/b]
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
I'm not comparing Hitler to Page, I'm using your arguments against you. If you can't see the difference, it's not my problem.
Steve Vai is God.
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You said that Page sucks even though he's famous and important and said 'good for Hitler.' You were comparing him to Hitler, and as such, I think all of your opinions on this topic are worthless.
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I was replying to the guy who said that it didn't matter if he sucked because he was in one of the world's most important rock bands and he made a connection with people and blah blah.
In that case, if he thinks it doesn't matter if you suck or if you do bad, it's only important if you're part of history... then good for Hitler! That's what I said.
I didn't compare Page to Hitler in any way.
THE MOAR YOU KNOW
Learn to read, fella.
[b]Amazon wrote: [/b]
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
I'm not comparing Hitler to Page, I'm using your arguments against you. If you can't see the difference, it's not my problem.
Steve Vai is God.
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You said that Page sucks even though he's famous and important and said 'good for Hitler.' You were comparing him to Hitler, and as such, I think all of your opinions on this topic are worthless.
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I was replying to the guy who said that it didn't matter if he sucked because he was in one of the world's most important rock bands and he made a connection with people and blah blah.
In that case, if he thinks it doesn't matter if you suck or if you do bad, it's only important if you're part of history... then good for Hitler! That's what I said.
I didn't compare Page to Hitler in any way.
THE MOAR YOU KNOW
Learn to read, fella.
john bodega
See I love (some) Zeppelin, but even so this isn't a discussion that really bothers me that much. None of my favourite Zeppelin tunes are ever mentioned in the "Does Page suck" topics (No Quarter, Achilles Last Stand, Going to California, Carouselambra, All My Love, Wearing and Tearing...) and I couldn't really give a toss about most of the rest of their catalogue. People harp on about Stairway but it's bloody contrived and boring. Achilles Last Stand smokes it in every respect. Better performances on every front. Even Page manages to sound respectable (!)
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[/QUOTE]Anyway. I've got their DVD, and I know where to find Youtube - I've seen Page at his worst. If people judge him by his worst work then that's fine, but I have ears and I know he managed to stumble his way through a few good tunes (the ones I mentioned are fantastic, even if you're only in it for Jonesy, Bonzo and Plant). [/QUOTE]
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[/QUOTE]In this day and age it's no longer fashionable to be an "adequate" guitarist who does what the song calls for and no more, but the fact remains that on certain occasions he did the job.[/QUOTE]
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[/QUOTE]That is, before he got on the drugs and ruined his credibility. But as I may have said before, I don't give a toss about 'that' Page. I believe in selective hearing; if something stinks, just turn it off ...[/QUOTE]
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[/QUOTE]Anyway. I've got their DVD, and I know where to find Youtube - I've seen Page at his worst. If people judge him by his worst work then that's fine, but I have ears and I know he managed to stumble his way through a few good tunes (the ones I mentioned are fantastic, even if you're only in it for Jonesy, Bonzo and Plant). [/QUOTE]
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[/QUOTE]In this day and age it's no longer fashionable to be an "adequate" guitarist who does what the song calls for and no more, but the fact remains that on certain occasions he did the job.[/QUOTE]
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[/QUOTE]That is, before he got on the drugs and ruined his credibility. But as I may have said before, I don't give a toss about 'that' Page. I believe in selective hearing; if something stinks, just turn it off ...[/QUOTE]
Holly2003
Good website about guitar rock here: [url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/[/url]
This is their view of Page, which is very fair (and doesn't therefore compare him to Hitler): [url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/44]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/44[/url]
and this is what they have to say about Dr B.
[url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/36]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/36[/url]
This is their view of Page, which is very fair (and doesn't therefore compare him to Hitler): [url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/44]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/44[/url]
and this is what they have to say about Dr B.
[url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/36]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/36[/url]
cacatua
[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]
Good website about guitar rock here: [url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/[/url]
This is their view of Page, which is very fair (and doesn't therefore compare him to Hitler): [url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/44]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/44[/url]
and this is what they have to say about Dr B.
[url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/36]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/36[/url]
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I've only listened to the one about Brian so far on my break, and must admit that it was so fine that I almost feel guilty for having done so! (Bad, bad - Stepford, I know..........lowest form of life here)
But thanks for the links!
Good website about guitar rock here: [url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/[/url]
This is their view of Page, which is very fair (and doesn't therefore compare him to Hitler): [url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/44]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/44[/url]
and this is what they have to say about Dr B.
[url=http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/36]http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/new/node/36[/url]
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I've only listened to the one about Brian so far on my break, and must admit that it was so fine that I almost feel guilty for having done so! (Bad, bad - Stepford, I know..........lowest form of life here)
But thanks for the links!
thomasquinn 32989
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
Of course he is! He sure influenced me!
When I listened to him, I thought "GOD, I BETTER PRACTICE HARD, I DON'T WANNA SOUND LIKE THAT!".
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Great, you're spending your 20s learning how to play technically better than Page and whoever else.
Page, on the other hand, spent his 20s writing music that would be revered and critically acclaimed generations later. He didn't give a shit about his technical ability, as that's not what Led Zeppelin was all about.
Time well spent, huh?
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I do hope you're not rejecting technical proficiency, which IMHO is still a vital ingredient for a great musician.
[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
Of course he is! He sure influenced me!
When I listened to him, I thought "GOD, I BETTER PRACTICE HARD, I DON'T WANNA SOUND LIKE THAT!".
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Great, you're spending your 20s learning how to play technically better than Page and whoever else.
Page, on the other hand, spent his 20s writing music that would be revered and critically acclaimed generations later. He didn't give a shit about his technical ability, as that's not what Led Zeppelin was all about.
Time well spent, huh?
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I do hope you're not rejecting technical proficiency, which IMHO is still a vital ingredient for a great musician.
Amazon
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
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[b]Amazon wrote: [/b]
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
I'm not comparing Hitler to Page, I'm using your arguments against you. If you can't see the difference, it's not my problem.
Steve Vai is God.
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You said that Page sucks even though he's famous and important and said 'good for Hitler.' You were comparing him to Hitler, and as such, I think all of your opinions on this topic are worthless.
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I was replying to the guy who said that it didn't matter if he sucked because he was in one of the world's most important rock bands and he made a connection with people and blah blah.
In that case, if he thinks it doesn't matter if you suck or if you do bad, it's only important if you're part of history... then good for Hitler! That's what I said.
I didn't compare Page to Hitler in any way.
THE MOAR YOU KNOW
Learn to read, fella.
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This is the last I will say on this mattter. You DID compare Page to Hitler, and even if you didn't, why bring up Hitler? Surely you could have used someone other than a genocidal dictator in your analogy/comparison? Oh, and I hate to tell you, but I'm not a fella.
[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
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[b]Amazon wrote: [/b]
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
I'm not comparing Hitler to Page, I'm using your arguments against you. If you can't see the difference, it's not my problem.
Steve Vai is God.
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You said that Page sucks even though he's famous and important and said 'good for Hitler.' You were comparing him to Hitler, and as such, I think all of your opinions on this topic are worthless.
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I was replying to the guy who said that it didn't matter if he sucked because he was in one of the world's most important rock bands and he made a connection with people and blah blah.
In that case, if he thinks it doesn't matter if you suck or if you do bad, it's only important if you're part of history... then good for Hitler! That's what I said.
I didn't compare Page to Hitler in any way.
THE MOAR YOU KNOW
Learn to read, fella.
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This is the last I will say on this mattter. You DID compare Page to Hitler, and even if you didn't, why bring up Hitler? Surely you could have used someone other than a genocidal dictator in your analogy/comparison? Oh, and I hate to tell you, but I'm not a fella.
john bodega
In either case Hitler is a bad example. Hitler was a far better dictator than Page is a guitar player.
Sebastian
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
In either case Hitler is a bad example. Hitler was a far better dictator than Page is a guitar player.[/QUOTE]
Standing ovation!
[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
In either case Hitler is a bad example. Hitler was a far better dictator than Page is a guitar player.[/QUOTE]
Standing ovation!
Wiley
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
In either case Hitler is a bad example. Hitler was a far better dictator than Page is a guitar player.[/QUOTE]
Considering the twisted universe in which this thread seems to live in, this has to be the best post.
It's like you lowered yourself to the other guy's level, kicked his ass and went back to your level untarnished.
That shot was one in a million, kid! :)
[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
In either case Hitler is a bad example. Hitler was a far better dictator than Page is a guitar player.[/QUOTE]
Considering the twisted universe in which this thread seems to live in, this has to be the best post.
It's like you lowered yourself to the other guy's level, kicked his ass and went back to your level untarnished.
That shot was one in a million, kid! :)
Matias Merçeauroix
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
In either case Hitler is a bad example. Hitler was a far better dictator than Page is a guitar player.[/QUOTE]
Of course he was. I honestly thought about saying exactly that but considering how people started to cry as soon as I used Hitler as an example, I thought it wouldn't be a great idea if I said it.
[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
In either case Hitler is a bad example. Hitler was a far better dictator than Page is a guitar player.[/QUOTE]
Of course he was. I honestly thought about saying exactly that but considering how people started to cry as soon as I used Hitler as an example, I thought it wouldn't be a great idea if I said it.
Sebastian
Hitler was a genius. An evil genius (or an 'out of control' genius), but a genius nonetheless.
Page is a person who plays guitar well, and became grossly overrated by the public.
Page is a person who plays guitar well, and became grossly overrated by the public.
tcc
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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
Hitler was a genius. An evil genius (or an 'out of control' genius), but a genius nonetheless.
Page is a person who plays guitar well, and became grossly overrated by the public.
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Killing people is genius ? This topic is getting more and more weird.
[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
Hitler was a genius. An evil genius (or an 'out of control' genius), but a genius nonetheless.
Page is a person who plays guitar well, and became grossly overrated by the public.
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Killing people is genius ? This topic is getting more and more weird.