Is there a statement of Mary Austin about Jim Hutton´s death
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brENsKi · Member since
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b] Her statement wasn't a written one but a video of her dancing on Jim's grave.[/QUOTE]
since when did[i][b] "stamping violently up and down on the spot" [/b][/i]interspersed with [b][i]"pissing uncontrollably"[/i][/b] fit into the category of [i][b]"dancing"[/b][/i] ?
Mr.Jingles · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
From what I gather, Mary got the house primarily because she had small children at the time, and Freddie wanted to do something for them. I think it was a beautiful gesture of a dying man helping care for new life. Other than that, I have no interest in Mary, Jim, Billy-Bob, Scruffy the Janitor or whatever sordid business they get involved in.[/QUOTE]
Come to think of it. Mary inherited the house, it was her legal property once Freddie died.
Now put yourself in her place... She had 2 young boys with her. Would you want a man with AIDS (Joe Fannelli) and another with HIV positive (Jim Hutton) who are not related to you in anyway, to live in your property where you are raising your kids?
Besides, both Jim Hutton and Joe Fannelli inherited a good amount of money after Freddie died. They had more than enough money to buy themselves a decent apartment. It's not so much like Mary kicked them out of the house penniless.
Missreclusive · Member since
Kiss, even more ridiculous as they age
john bodega · Member since
"Freddie's decision for Mary to take the home for herself and her children was excellent"
It was the worst fucking thing he could have done.
Mr.Jingles · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]
"Freddie's decision for Mary to take the home for herself and her children was excellent"
It was the worst fucking thing he could have done. [/QUOTE]
Well, you didn't know Mary Austin in person, so how can you tell?
Freddie obviously trusted her far more than any other person. The house was his legal property and he's entitled to give it to any person he wants.
loveumj · Member since
I'm with you, I don't have much respect for her anymore.
VanP · Member since
I have read Jim Hutton's book, and I have read several statements about Mary.
what stands out to me is that Jim states early in the book that he always knew that Mary would get the estate. Freddie also said publicly that if he died that he would leave everything to Mary, and that she was the only person he trusted.
Within a week or two of his death, Jim asked Freddie what would become of him once he died, where would he go as he was leaving the estate to her? Freddie told him that they would have to work that out. Bear in mind, that Jim was bombarding Freddie with these questions while he was dying.
Mary always controlled the finances. Jim's paycheck, gifts, allowances, all run through Mary. (Jim complains about Mary suggesting that Freddie buy him a used car, and objecting to a pay raise for him). Freddie had the ultimate decision, but gifts like the Audi that Freddie bought for Jim was still in Freddie's name.
He did leave 500,000 pounds to Jim Hutton, 500,000 pounds to Joe Fanelli, his chef. why did the supposed love of his life receive the same as his chef? Doesn't this raise questions as the authenticity of some of the claims made by Jim Hutton in his book?
Honestly, I felt worse for Jim Hutton prior to reading his book. I believed Mary Austin was a cold bitch until I read, and started to question what he said.
The relationship between Jim Hutton and Freddie Mercury was not stable/consistent until the last year -year and a half of Freddie's life. He always cheated until he was no longer physically capable.
Mary was always there, and didn't judge him. He kept her very close by for a reason. Maybe it was the unconditional love that is often impossible in romantic or physical relationships. the type that can be developed only through time and unconditional love and friendship.
Hutton was not left broke. it's not up to us to question Freddie's choices in his will.
Sweetandtenderhooligan · Member since
VanP:
It was actually a Volvo, not an Audi.
But anyways, Jim didn't "bombard" Freddie with the questions. Come on. It honestly sounds like you're just here to smear a man who isn't here to defend himself. Where is your information that their relationship wasn't stable until 1990? Jim states in the book that after he saw Freddie leave Stafford Terrace with a guy he finally told him to make up his mind, and he did. That could not have been in 1990. I'd say a couple living together calling each other husband is a stable relationship.
A possible reason that Mary got the house is that Freddie probably assumed Jim (and Joe) would be dead in a couple of years anyway, and then what would happen to the house?
Mary also had the advantage of having been around a whole lot longer than Jim. But enough with the sainting "She never judged him, never questioned him" bullshit because we don't know that.
FunLovinCriminal · Member since
@ VanP: If Mary really was the „only person he (Freddie) trusted“, why did he appoint Jim Beach to be his executor? Why did he let Freestone and Fanelli watch him live his life, had he not trusted them? There are statements made, for example by Freestone and John Reid, which bolster up Jim Hutton's statements about Mary Austin. „In the end I had won“, was how Reid quoted Austin after she had inherited most of Freddie's estate. Freestone's „What He Left Behind“-book also shows a rather grim side of Austin. She reportedly hated Fanelli, she fired Freestone after she had asked him to stay with her to look after her, she hated Hutton. Or why would she had said „Freddie's already waiting for you“ to him after Freddie had passed away? She was an employee of Freddie and helped him acting out a lie in public? How trustworthy can she thus be? In private, she probably didn't give a fuck when she got to know that Jim had passed away. Publicly she never made a statement, as far as we know.
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]FunLovinCriminal wrote:[/b]
@ VanP: If Mary really was the „only person he (Freddie) trusted“, why did he appoint Jim Beach to be his executor? . [/QUOTE]
That's a fairly obvious one...Jim is a qualified lawyer/solicitor and handled Freddie's financial and business affairs. Seems the perfectly clear choice as and independent executor.
Holly2003 · Member since
I hope she's spending it all on coke and male prostitutes. It's what Fred would have wanted.
FunLovinCriminal · Member since
@ cmsdrums: Sure, I was wanting to point out that Mary was not the only person he (Freddie) really trusted.
ForFreddie · Member since
Mary accomplished exactly what she set out to do.
To Freddie and the world, she presented herself as little miss goody two shoes, little miss innocent, all sweetness and light.
Which is why, after their breakup, she continued to play the understanding, supportive best friend....all she had to do, was, pretend to love and care about a gay man.... after all, how hard could it be, it's not like she had to continue sleeping with him.
Just show up at functions, get photographed, smiling, looking adoringly at Freddie, not a hard thing to do, when you're looking at a fortune coming your way in the future.
I say these things, based on comments Mary, herself has made, since Freddie's death and, her actions...she comes off very cold and calculating... remember, she's the one who found the house Freddie ultimately bought, it suited HER, she knew exactly what she was doing, picturing the house being hers some day.
From the age of 19, to now, Mary hasn't had to work a day, Freddie supported her and, he still is, not too shabby for a girl from meager means.
Oh, at first, I believed Mary was the person the public saw, but, that changed with the death of Freddie and, the true Mary was exposed.
After the breakup, Mary could have gone her own way, but, that was when Freddie had started to make it big....so, the dollar signs appeared in her eyes, why not play on the fact, Freddie adored her still and, considered her to be the love of his life?
Mary used him, she was manipulative and greedy, she knew she could make Freddie do anything she wanted....I suspect that to be the reason the band members and, Jim Hutton didn't like her, they saw, what Freddie couldn't.
Mary was/is, nothing more than a gold-digging, bitch.
Holly2003 · Member since
Crackpot City: Population 1.
Donna13 · Member since
Their romantic relationship lasted about seven years. After the breakup, they remained very close.
As for her character, she remained a close and loyal friend to Freddie. You could see his face light up when she was next to him. This was not an act for the cameras.
I think we have all probably had the experience of not liking some friends of our friends. That is our protective nature maybe, being critical of others. I can only assume that was the case with Mary and Jim. Also, anger and blame sometimes go along with grief. When a person is so devastated after a loss, anger can feel like a less painful emotion than sadness. It is a distraction from the most painful feelings and thoughts.