Right, Donna. But she hated Joe Fanelli, she didn't like Jim Hutton, she asked Phoebe to stay after Freddie had passed away, only to sack him a few weeks later. And then she had the nerve to complain in David Wigg's interview that all of Freddie's staff had gone, because he had been so generous towards them. Also, after Freddie's death, John Reid happened to meet her by chance. And she must have said something like „I've won, in the end“, as John Reid remembered. I don't know about you, but something is really fishy here...
Well, because she is a private person, she will probably not be addressing any of the stories that are told about her online or in the gossip newspapers. So it is not fair to her to bring up all the “he said” stories here.
Peter Freestone seems like the nicest person in the world. I can’t imagine anyone not wanting him around, but we don’t know the reasons that she let him go, which might have been very reasonable ones. Maybe she just wanted more “alone time” to deal with her grief.
Once a person dies, the only power they still have is their will. I think we can take what Freddie said seriously. He considered Mary to be his common law wife. He said in interviews that she was his only friend and that no man could replace her. And his will confirms this. He seemed to trust Jim Beach, his bandmates, parents, sister and Mary in the end to carry out his wishes, including that Mary keep the location of his ashes secret.
But, Donna, Freddie's will stipulated, all people, currently residing in the home, we're to stay until their inheritances kicked in... Mary kicked them out immediately. So much for respecting the dying wish of the man she was supposed to have loved and respected.
The comment about, 'having won?' can only be taken one way.... what else could it have meant?
I think Freddie was wrong for trusting her and, I think his band mates and, Jim Hutton had seen who she really was and, THAT was the reason she didn't like them.
Freddie? He needed Mary, because, she represented normalcy, during a time when he didn't know who/what he was...she was someone he could look to, to feel normal, as long as she was around, well, she was his, ' normal,' if that makes sense.
Still, I believe, with everything in me, she played him.
Donna, what do you mean by stating that „she is a private person“. If she really is, why did she take part in Freddie's charade and turn up as his girlfriend at official receptions until the mid 80's? Besides everything I hat mentioned is on online or red top-gossp-stories. It's been stated in Phoebe's second book, in Jim Hutton's book and in an interview with John Reid. Jim, Phoebe and Joe weren't even allowed to celebrate christmas in Garden Lodge, but had to have it in the mews building due to Mary's order shortly after FM had died.
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But, Donna, Freddie's will stipulated, all people, currently residing in the home, we're to stay until their inheritances kicked in... Mary kicked them out immediately. So much for respecting the dying wish of the man she was supposed to have loved and respected.
The comment about, 'having won?' can only be taken one way.... what else could it have meant?
I think Freddie was wrong for trusting her and, I think his band mates and, Jim Hutton had seen who she really was and, THAT was the reason she didn't like them.
Freddie? He needed Mary, because, she represented normalcy, during a time when he didn't know who/what he was...she was someone he could look to, to feel normal, as long as she was around, well, she was his, ' normal,' if that makes sense.
Still, I believe, with everything in me, she played him.[/QUOTE]
Freddie's will is a public document. You can read it. It says nothing about anyone staying in the house. It simply leaves the house to Mary, the respective amounts of money Freddie left to people and the percentages of royalties to Mary and Freddie's parents and sister (and any children of Freddie's sister.) . Freddie even stipulates that in the event all of his living relatives should die, 100% of the royalties would then go to Mary and only if everyone - to charity.
I'm sure Freddie told Jim and them all they could stay, but it isn't in his will.
The truth is nobody here knows Jim or Mary. Freddie did and he loved them both. I just can't imagine why people hate either of them. Freddie trusted and loved Mary and she stuck by him for many years and as Freddie told it was there for him in ways no-one else was. Is Freddie's word not enough? You say she gained from it, but surely she sacrificed things too, such as her own marriages for starters. It is also notable, that in several accounts from friends of Freddie's fro the early days, they speak of how it is not easy to remain friends with and close to someone when they become so famous, for it can destroy you without anyone meaning it to.
Freddie loved Jim and it seems he found peace and contentment with Jim in the last years of his life - a thing which I am so happy he did eventually seem to find in his romantic life. I for one am happy Freddie had both of these people in his life.
It isn't for us to say why Freddie left anyone anything (though for the record, £500,000 is more than most people would earn in two lifetimes... and this was nearly 30 years ago so in today's money it'd be over a million pounds in comparison! Seriously.... why would you want anything from someone you loved anyway? They're gone - nothing can bring them back.! Might I add, having lost someone very close to me, in fact when you have first lost that person the absolute hardest thing in the world is to live in the place where they spent their last months and days - memories of them are everywhere and worse, memories of them ill and dying - it is INCREDIBLY difficult for a long time to live in such a place), but what they did afterwards is down to them. Maybe Mary should have let everyone stay at Garden Lodge. Maybe Jim shouldn't have written a book that revealed intimate details Freddie definitely would not have wanted to be public.
Does it really surprise you Jim and Mary would struggle to get on? The closeness of Mary to Freddie must have been hard for any of Freddie's lovers, just as the closeness of Freddie to Mary was evidently hard for all of Mary's lovers. It isn't surprising. My view is it isn't things that are said about people that reveal who a person is in such a situation, but things people say about others. So for me what Jim says about Mary reveals more about Jim than Mary, and we don't have the counter as we don't have Mary's words about Jim. But you can take your own views from everything of course. What you cannot say is that you know, and however much you believe any thing it is only that - a belief and it can be 100% false.
It seems to me Freddie did not trust people easily - Mary was pretty unique and he clearly loved and trusted her. If you think Freddie had such terrible judgement, then you are of course free to think as you wish. It makes it no more true though.
I can understand Jim resenting Mary in those first few months or years - I can understand if they never got on and I understand further resentment because what she was left meant more than the physical stuff - I guess leaving a person a certain amount of stuff is indicative of giving them your continued love. However, unrelated to Mary - I do find it hard to understand some of the things Jim shared in his book. I know for sure Freddie would not have wanted his last words and days to be able to be read about in such (any!) detail, so that Jim wrote these things makes me wonder - did he not know that Freddie would have hated it? And if so, how well did he actually know Freddie?! I don't doubt their love, because love doesn't mean you have to know every thing about a person.... Or did Jim know Freddie would have hated it and he wrote and shared this stuff anyway? In which case, why?
I'm pretty sure Freddie wouldn't have wanted public arguments either. We don't have Mary's side in any of this, nor Freddie's.
Really I think - what's the point in hating anyone? Freddie loved Jim and Mary and if he could do so, I'm pretty sure no-one else has to demonise either of them either.
sorry - silly double posting forum *tears of woe*
Freddie’s Last Will was pretty simple regarding Peter, Jim and Joe. They were to be given money upon Freddie’s death. The payments would have been handled by the Trustees/Executors. There was nothing in the Last Will about letting Joe, Jim, and Peter live in the house.
In addition to the house and 50 percent of the estate, Freddie also left the contents of the house and all his personal possessions to Mary.
I will grant you this, Freddie did love and trust Mary.
But, Freddie was also a confused, unhappy man, unhappy with himself, I truly believe he did the things he did, because he was trying to find where he belonged, his purpose in life and, there's Mary, she's 'normal' she knows who/what she is and, as long as she was there, Freddie felt, grounded, she was his anchor, which is why he couldn't completely let go, even after she got married and had children.
I suppose it's possible Mary really did care for Freddie, in her own way, it's also possible she was a woman scorned and, her fiance didn't marry her, because he liked other guys, that's gotta be degrading and insulting, it had to have made her feel betrayed...... and, somewhat of a fool.....she had probably told everyone she knew, she was marrying Freddie Mecury...then, it didn't happen.
You don't think that can cause a woman to seek/want revenge? Maybe, a feeling of....he owes me, for doing this to me?
It's true, not I, or anyone who wasn't there, knows the truth, we're all speculating, based on feelings and, in my case, Mary's behavior, things she said and did after Freddie passed....and, anyone who wasn't there, knows whether or not Freddie knew/approved of things Jim wrote/would have written, in his book.
Usually, if a lot of people don't like one particular person, it's because of that one person and, not everyone else.......in the case of the band members and Jim all not liking Mary.
Donna- I think he trusted Mary to give some of his things to the three guys and she didn't.
Didn't he give Jim a trunk that had photos and she wouldn't let him take it?
You see, if true, it's things like that, that I hear, that make me even more sure I'm right.... Mary was nothing more than an opportunistic, greedy, gold digger.....she seems to have done things out of sheer spite, she couldn't stand it, that Jim was in the place she used to be, that Freddie also loved HIM.....she wanted to have her cake and eat it too....she wanted Freddie to be all about HER, while she was having boyfriends/husband's and babies.
I take back what I said previously, I think the only thing Mary loved about Freddie, was what she could get from him.
Not only that, take this from Phoebe's second book:
During my week’s absence, even more had changed at Garden Lodge. I came back to a twenty-four hour security guard presence, manifested in the person of a burly gentleman who, with his replacements, was stationed all the time presumably to ensure that neither Jim, Joe nor I took anything which was deemed not to belong to us. One of these guards, who I believe were supplied through a contact of Terry Giddings, once apologised to me for enquiring about what I was doing and telling me that he had no idea why he was on site in this way as he would have no idea of what was ours and what was so-called Freddie’s. In the event, we each had to make a formal list of the items, whether ours or ‘Freddie’s’, which we were taking from Garden Lodge. This list might go some way to explaining why I have never been able to retrieve two suitcases of mine, full of my possessions which I left in the loft, believing I could come back for them when I had a home in...
Evans, David. FREDDIE MERCURY - What He Left Behind: The Story of What Happened after the death of Freddie Mercury . Tusitala Press. Kindle-Version.
Poor Freddie, the more I hear, the more I'm sure, he put all of his trust in the wrong person.
Mary is absolutely shameless....a first class con artist.
Alright, I see now that this has to be a wind up.
Sure. I'm not asking you, or anyone, to believe what I believe. You have your assessment of the situation and, I have mine.
