At the end of the day Greg, everyone is jealous of you and people, Brits in particular, dont like people who make them jealous. Thats when the insults and vitriol starts.
Some of the things you say can be childish but its so obviously a piss take I cannot believe people bite time after time.
Good on you. Hope you are loving the job as much as I know I (and John Stuart) would.
In life some of us are crocodiles, others are plovers.
Personally I prefer being the former than the latter.
Or is that too subtle for you to grasp?
Your loving bud...
John
mooghead · Member since
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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]
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[b]mooghead wrote: [/b]
At the end of the day Greg, everyone is jealous of you and people, Brits in particular, dont like people who make them jealous. Thats when the insults and vitriol starts.
Some of the things you say can be childish but its so obviously a piss take I cannot believe people bite time after time.
Good on you. Hope you are loving the job as much as I know I (and John Stuart) would.
At the end of the day Greg, everyone is jealous of you and people, Brits in particular, dont like people who make them jealous. Thats when the insults and vitriol starts.
Some of the things you say can be childish but its so obviously a piss take I cannot believe people bite time after time.
Good on you. Hope you are loving the job as much as I know I (and John Stuart) would.
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You don't know what you're talking about, but that's your problem, not mine.
Queen Archivist · Member since
John, you took the EASY option again.
You read my words, saw that I made my point extremely strongly, and indisputably even by your standards, and then you thought about some kind of response. But you couldn't come up with one. "Sorry Greg, I was wrong" was all it takes.
I made my point well, because I detailed facts not ill-informed guess work like you did. You can see that you were 100% wrong to casually suggest what you did, but you are not big enough or eloquent or gracious enough to apologise. It just isn't in you John.
It takes a man to admit when he's wrong, and you are very clearly are wrong, as I demonstrated. You're unable to do that. It says a lot about you.
John, why can't people like you read a posting like mine, recognise you were in error, and simply admit it? Why is that beyond you?
Yes you did strike a nerve. You said things about my job and duties that were plainly wholly in error. I think anyone who truly cares about their job would be offended when a clumsy oaf like you, with no understanding or inside experience, bounds into things he knows nothing about, like an arrogant bull in a china shop.
Be a big enough person to respond to the main thrust of my thread, instead of evading it so conspicuously like a cowardly resentful jealous (let's face it) individual who can never admit he's wrong.
john bodega · Member since
I don't get it. What is the big deal? GB is an archivist. He gets to handle a bunch of stuff we'll never see. How the fuck can we possibly have stretched that out into several threads dotted over many years? Mooooove along, people, it's not worth discussing. It's not like he can smuggle anything out in his pockets for us.
John S Stuart · Member since
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[b]Queen Archivist wrote:[/b] Be a big enough person to respond to the main thrust of my thread, instead of evading it so conspicuously like a cowardly resentful jealous (let's face it) individual who can never admit he's wrong.
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Although I agree with Zebonka 12 (above) - here are my final thoughts on the subject.
There are many threads in here either started by, or contributed to by [i][b]your [/b][/i]good self.
I am not responsible for those - [i][b]you [/b][/i]are.
When we actually trawl through [i][b]your [/b][/i]threads and begin to critically analyse their contribution - [i][b]you [/b][/i]betray [i][b]yourself [/b][/i]from the large volume of data [i][b]you [/b][/i]have left behind. Breeding, education, grammer, spelling, vocabulary, style, manners, etiquette, character and personality (or the lack thereof) can all shine through - and can be gleaned - not from me - but from 'Greg in his [i][b]own [/b][/i]words' - and I think that is the important bit to remember.
Not what I or others say about [i][b]you [/b][/i]- but what [i][b]you [/b][/i]say about [b]yourself [/b]- in [i][b]your [/b][/i]words and [i][b]your [/b][/i]thoughts. (They become the emissary for [i][b]your [/b][/i]mind and [i][b]your [/b][/i]soul).
BTW; That does not only just apply to GB - it applies to anyone who has a large body of work to look through - and private correspondence, or forum contributions are among the most personally revealing of all.
It was [i][b]you [/b][/i]who stated [i][b]you [/b][/i]did not work for Queen Productions, but were self-employed.
Not I.
It was [i][b]you [/b][/i]who stated that times were lean and [i][b]you [/b][/i]needed to suppliment income by (perhaps) writing children's books.
Not I.
It was [i][b]you [/b][/i]who stated that the job was not glamourous and [i][b]you [/b][/i]were shackled to 'the man'
Not I.
It was [i][b]you [/b][/i]who said that [i][b]you [/b][/i]were forbidden by contract from revealing track details.
Not I.[i][b]
You [/b][/i]are the one who (in Freddie's words) is "a pr*ck teaser..." - "I will continue to listen to Victory... etc..." to paraphrase.
Not I.
[i][b]You [/b][/i]are the one who behaves like a cross between an internet troll and an arrogant spoilt child.
Not I.
So you see, all I have done is held up a mirror to reflect [i][b]your [/b][/i]Queenzone image, which [b]you [/b]created.
If [i][b]you [/b][/i]do not like that image - that is [i][b]your [/b][/i]problem - not mine.
Again to quote valtaire "Judge of a man by his questions rather than by his answers", and you have left us
many questions to judge [b]you [/b]and [b]your [/b]performance on.
Finally; This thread is not really about me.
Rather, it is about [i][b]your [/b][/i]perceptions and [i][b]your [/b][/i]reactions, which again say far more about [i][b]you [/b][/i]- than they do I.
I am neither resentful of you or your job.
As far as I am concerned, I am very content with life.
An educated, professional background, based upon middle class values.
A beautiful home. A lovely wife. Educated, professional children.
A doting, adoring grand-child.
Life is good, and is measured by more instruments than mere slide-rules.
Why would I be resentful?
It was [i][b]you [/b][/i]who used the word resentful - I wonder why?
david (galashiels) · Member since
any chance of hearing a snipet of.victory?.
Jam Monkey · Member since
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[b]david (galashiels) wrote: [/b]
any chance of hearing a snipet of.victory?.[/QUOTE]
Hear hear, but let's not hold our breath
Sebastian · Member since
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[b]John S Stuart wrote: [/b]
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[b]Queen Archivist wrote:[/b] Be a big enough person to respond to the main thrust of my thread, instead of evading it so conspicuously like a cowardly resentful jealous (let's face it) individual who can never admit he's wrong.
[/QUOTE]
Although I agree with Zebonka 12 (above) - here are my final thoughts on the subject.
There are many threads in here either started by, or contributed to by [i][b]your [/b][/i]good self.
I am not responsible for those - [i][b]you [/b][/i]are.
When we actually trawl through [i][b]your [/b][/i]threads and begin to critically analyse their contribution - [i][b]you [/b][/i]betray [i][b]yourself [/b][/i]from the large volume of data [i][b]you [/b][/i]have left behind. Breeding, education, grammer, spelling, vocabulary, style, manners, etiquette, character and personality (or the lack thereof) can all shine through - and can be gleaned - not from me - but from 'Greg in his [i][b]own [/b][/i]words' - and I think that is the important bit to remember.
Not what I or others say about [i][b]you [/b][/i]- but what [i][b]you [/b][/i]say about [b]yourself [/b]- in [i][b]your [/b][/i]words and [i][b]your [/b][/i]thoughts. (They become the emissary for [i][b]your [/b][/i]mind and [i][b]your [/b][/i]soul).
BTW; That does not only just apply to GB - it applies to anyone who has a large body of work to look through - and private correspondence, or forum contributions are among the most personally revealing of all.
It was [i][b]you [/b][/i]who stated [i][b]you [/b][/i]did not work for Queen Productions, but were self-employed.
Not I.
It was [i][b]you [/b][/i]who stated that times were lean and [i][b]you [/b][/i]needed to suppliment income by (perhaps) writing children's books.
Not I.
It was [i][b]you [/b][/i]who stated that the job was not glamourous and [i][b]you [/b][/i]were shackled to 'the man'
Not I.
It was [i][b]you [/b][/i]who said that [i][b]you [/b][/i]were forbidden by contract from revealing track details.
Not I.[i][b]
You [/b][/i]are the one who (in Freddie's words) is "a pr*ck teaser..." - "I will continue to listen to Victory... etc..." to paraphrase.
Not I.
[i][b]You [/b][/i]are the one who behaves like a cross between an internet troll and an arrogant spoilt child.
Not I.
So you see, all I have done is held up a mirror to reflect [i][b]your [/b][/i]Queenzone image, which [b]you [/b]created.
If [i][b]you [/b][/i]do not like that image - that is [i][b]your [/b][/i]problem - not mine.
Again to quote valtaire "Judge of a man by his questions rather than by his answers", and you have left us
many questions to judge [b]you [/b]and [b]your [/b]performance on.
Finally; This thread is not really about me.
Rather, it is about [i][b]your [/b][/i]perceptions and [i][b]your [/b][/i]reactions, which again say far more about [i][b]you [/b][/i]- than they do I.
I am neither resentful of you or your job.
As far as I am concerned, I am very content with life.
An educated, professional background, based upon middle class values.
A beautiful home. A lovely wife. Educated, professional children.
A doting, adoring grand-child.
Life is good, and is measured by more instruments than mere slide-rules.
Why would I be resentful?
It was [i][b]you [/b][/i]who used the word resentful - I wonder why?
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Best post you've ever written. And curiously, Greg hasn't replied, even though he's often very quick to jump at what you and other people say.
john bodega · Member since
As long as we're keeping it civil, fellas. You never know ... any day now, [url=http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p301/zebonka/GBintheQueenArchives.jpg]those Queen rarities could be released[/url]. Isn't that a nice thought? [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]Of course, I'll be in my 50s, but hey![/QUOTE]
Micrówave · Member since
To Greg, my replies in [b]BOLD[/b] since you chose CAPS.
To Microwave.... who is talking out of his bottom... I WILL REPLY IN CAPS..... [b]Actually I talk out my front door, which is pretty much the same.[/b]
GB: My job entails things on a daily basis that you have NIL idea or concept of.
Microwave: Such as
1. Insulting Queen fans. GB: A LOT OF QZ-ERS INSULT ME FREQUENTLY ON THIS SITE, MICRO OLD CHUM, AND THUS I SOMETIMES GIVE BACK AS GOOD AS I GET. I REGARD THIS AS FAIR AND BALANCED. NO MORE, NO LESS. YOU WOULD PROBABLY DO THE SAME IN MY POSITION, BUT I WOULDN'T BOTHER MENTIONING IT TO YOU BECAUSE I WOULD SEE THE SITUATION FOR WHAT IT IS. UNLIKE YOU.
[b]Actually you seem to start it 75% of the time.[/b]
2. Lying. GB: I HAVE NEVER LIED ON THIS SITE. I HAVE SAID BLATANTLY SILLY THINGS SOMETIMES, AND OUTRAGEOUS AND CLEARLY ABSURD PISS TAKES... I THINK YOU'RE CONFUSING THE TWO THINGS. I HAVE NO NEED TO LIE, WHEN A WIND-UP DOES THE TRICK AND REALLY GETS BACKS UP - PRECISELY AS INTENDED. IF I CANNOT OR WILL NOT ANSWER SOMETHING, I SIMPLY SAY SO... AS YOU SHOULD WELL KNOW BY NOW.[b] Saying "I have NEVER lied on this site" is a lie in itself. "Never" implies that you are 100% certain, you've checked all of the posts you've ever written?[/b]
3. proclaiming your self worth. GB: GUILTY. AND I STAND BY IT. IN THIS QZ ENVIRONMENT WHERE NEARLY ALL OF YOU JUST LIKE TO THINK I DO NOTHING OF WORTH. I STAND UP FOR MYSELF WHEN PEOPLE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, HOLLY, DIG AND KNOCK ME BUT REFUSE POINT BLANK EVER TO AGREE WITH ME HERE WHEN THEY DO SEE MY POINT. [b]You do it without provocation. It doesn't take Holly or anyone else to do anything sometimes.[/b]
IT'S ALL SO IMMATURE AND ONE SIDED, BUT YES I AM AWARE SOME QZ-ERS ARE QUITE YOUNG. THEY PROBABLY ARE TEENAGERS A LOT OF THEM, BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW. THEY ARE HAPPY TO JOIN THE HAVE A GO AT GB BANDWAGON, BUT THERE IS NO PROPER BALANCE. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THEY SEE MY POINT, AGREE WITH ME.... BUT THEY CANNOT WILL NOT WANT TO BE SEEN TO AGREE. THAT WOULD NEVER DO. AND THAT IS VERY CHILDISH, DON'T YOU AGREE? [b]Totally.[/b]
'CAN YOU' AGREE WITH ME INDEED? WHAT WOULD YOUR FELLOW QZ-ERS MAKE OF THAT... YOU'D BE A TRAITOR IN THER EYES.
SO I STAND UP FOR MYSELF. THIS IS TRUE. [b]Actually, I've (and several others have) stood up for you only to be shot down in a later thread.
[/b]
4. misrepresentation GB: NO, THIS IS RUBBISH. YOU ARE GRABBING AT STRAWS NOW.
[b]I remember you vehemently saying Sun City does not exist. A couple years later, the entire Queenzone community is blessed with footage of the event... and not from the Queen camp. I specify the Queenzone community, because that is all who were interested in it. If it was some big sellable product, it would be all over the web. [/b]
5. cataloging audio and video files GB: YES THIS IS PART OF IT. WELL DONE. [b]Hey, I know you do SOMETHING!!![/b]
6. drinking GB: NOW YOU'RE BEING JUST PLAIN STUPID, AGAIN. I LIKE TEA AND COFFEE. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN, YOU DOPEY MUPPET TYPE. [b]I was thinking Adult beverages.[/b]
7. internet chat rooms GB: VERY VERY OCCASIONALLY, WHEN I'M BORED. NOWHERE NEAR AS MUCH TIME ON THEM AS YOU DO. I HAVE A FULL AND ACTIVE LIFE. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT YOUR OWN TIME SPAN ON HERE BEFORE POPPING AT ME SILLY BOY. IT'S A BIT RICH YOU TELLING ME ABOUT TIME SPENT ON FORUMS, WHEN YOU YOURSELF VIRTUALLY LIVE HERE. POT AND KETTLE SYNDROME OLD SON![b] The rent is cheap. The neighbors are nice.
Greg, there was a time when you were a very respected member of the community. A lot of us enjoy your brand of humor, but I believe you've been taking it too far as of late. Instead of starting a thread proclaiming how great you are, how about starting one about something worthwhile? Maybe you're going to the UK convention and you could give us an idea about something you'll be presenting? Maybe some behind-the-scenes stories. You don't have to be specific about a certain concert or song. To many of us, you represent Queen and how it feels about it's fans. Have you ever thought about that? They must pay you some kind of stipend to do what you do, so I would expect you to represent yourself in a more positive light. You don't have to get a lobotomy, for Christ's sake, but if you "gave back" a little, we wouldn't mind your humor one bit.
We'd like to have the old Indiana Brooks back, as Zeb's photo suggests.[/b]
Benn Kempster · Member since
Greggy Boy,
Once again, you titilate and throw out the chum in order to entice; you think we can't see what you've done in evading the point of your own post? Needing to prompt people into questioning you about the out-takes again with no intention of responding - as with Tiger Woods, *you* are a self-aggrandising prick.
On the Ning Nang Nong
Where the Cows go Bong!
and the monkeys all say BOO!
There's a Nong Nang Ning
Where the trees go Ping!
And the tea pots jibber jabber joo.
On the Nong Ning Nang
All the mice go Clang
And you just can't catch 'em when they do!
So its Ning Nang Nong
Cows go Bong!
Nong Nang Ning
Trees go ping
Nong Ning Nang
The mice go Clang
What a noisy place to belong
is the Ning Nang Ning Nang Nong!!
louis.007 · Member since
Well I just want to say hello to Mr Kempster who I haven't heard from in years. From Adam, former editor of the 'Queen Chronicle' - No big deal or high almighty attitude because I produced a fanzine that most liked, it was just a labour of love. I must say that I know a few people on here including those involved in this thread and really do find it highly amusing that grown men should bicker in this way. Greg you have a enviable job... FACT! But to tease with such alarming regularity is only going to backfire due to jealousy and the unavailability of such gems. I have a direct question - When are we going to see, if ever, the proposed Queen rarities box set? A straight answer will be more than sufficient - 2010? Unknown but it will happen? or Never? I'm not asking what's on it but just want to know 'cos I ain't getting any younger! John, Greg, Pittrek, Holly.... you all have your attributes, let's not waste time fighting.