To John Stuart

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[b]mooghead wrote: [/b]

Will you shut up about Victory. Who gives a shit about Freddie singing with some twisted paedo..[/QUOTE]
Michael Jackson wasn't a twisted pedo. He was brillant and he was found not guilty. I give a shit about his music and I give a shit about Freddie singing with him and would like the opportunity to hear it in my lifetime.

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[b]Lisser :) wrote: [/b]

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[b]mooghead wrote: [/b]



Will you shut up about Victory. Who gives a shit about Freddie singing with some twisted paedo..

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Michael Jackson wasn't a twisted pedo. He was brillant and he was found not guilty.
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Amen!

[QUOTE]I give a shit about his music and I give a shit about Freddie singing with him and would like the opportunity to hear it in my lifetime.[/QUOTE]
Another song has been out for years..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9_BwMtPeWU

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[b]Lisser :) wrote: [/b]

Michael Jackson wasn't a twisted pedo. He was brillant and he was found not guilty.

[/QUOTE] Being found not guilty meant he was a free man, but didn't necessaily conclusively prove his innocence.  After all, Elton John was married to a woman, but it didn't prove that he wasn't gay!

True.

But since he was found innocent, there's no need to call him a pedo.

Michael Jackson could also have been a procrastinator, a carpenter, an astronomy enthusiast, a good cook, a good painter, or a good saxophonist.

You can't prove he wasn't any of those things.  But none of those claims makes publicity or money, which is why it's more popular to call him a pedo despite there being no evidence.

I wonder which star popular culture is going to destroy next...

When will we learn?

Sorry for getting off-topic, but :

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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]

True.

But since he was found innocent, there's no need to call him a pedo.

Michael Jackson could also have been a procrastinator, a carpenter, an astronomy enthusiast, a good cook, a good painter, or a good saxophonist.

You can't prove he wasn't any of those things.  But none of those claims makes publicity or money, which is why it's more popular to call him a pedo despite there being no evidence.

I wonder which star popular culture is going to destroy next...

When will we learn?
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Exactly. 100% agree with you.

TBF, he wasn't found 'innocent', but 'not guilty', which is not the same thing.

But good point about sax and stuff... BTW, I'm sure I mentioned this here before, but it's quite sad that some great singers (like Michael and even Freddie for some extent) are usually thought to be incapable of being great composers. MJ complained in 'Moonwalk' that people tended to ask him: 'who [i]really[/i] wrote those songs?', which disappointed him.

For some extent that happens with Freddie as well, in non-Queen circles that is: 'who helped him write the harmonies in [i]Bo Rhap[/i]?' 'if he wasn't a guitarist, how could he compose [i]Ogre Battle[/i]?'... same with other great songwriters such as Axl Rose or many pop artists (e.g. the Backstreet Boys).

I've liked Queen since I was 13, but before that I was a big MJ fan. I still love his work.

I realise the man had many faults, and did some things he shouldn't have, but I seriously don't think he ever harmed any children. I prefer to remember him a musical genius.

OJ Simpson is innocent too. Love the way he is out there right now looking for the real murderer!! Catholic vicars? Nope, not child abusers.


Michael Jackson? Fat white guy... comfortable in his skin.


He's misunderstood and we are all ignorant.

OJ's blood was on the glove, and everyone in the civilized world with half a brain knows what the catholic church is all about.

On the other hand, the father of the boy with the first so-called MJ molestation claim killed himself shortly after MJ died.

It's not remotely fair to group MJ in with the above.

That father killed himself because he was dying of cancer.

I have never seen Michael Jackson act strange towards children except that ONE interview.  I also saw Live In Budapest with John's interview with Emma.  Just as creepy.

So does that make Queen a pedo?

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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]

That father killed himself because he was dying of cancer.
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I don't buy it.  My vote goes for guilt.  If not, then his timing was quite exquisite, to say the least.

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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]

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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]



That father killed himself because he was dying of cancer.

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I don't buy it.  My vote goes for guilt.  If not, then his timing was quite exquisite, to say the least.
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I don't think we should speculate on why he committed suicidel; certainly we will never know the truth.

As for Michael, while I don't think his relationships with children were completely 'normal', I don't think it was because he was a peodaphile. I think it was because he had lost his childhood, and he was attempting to revisit his childhood as an adult; hence all the sleepovers and his talk about sleeping with the kids in the same bed. At the end of the day, I think he was a very lonely man who was struggling to recapture a childhood which had been stolen from him.

Fully agreed.

I don't think any of us can be in a position to judge the man, because none of our childhoods ended at age 5 when we became child stars.  And none of us were forced to take female hormones from then until age 16 to keep our voices up high.

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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]

TBF, he wasn't found 'innocent', but 'not guilty', which is not the same thing.

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Legally, the two are exactly the same.