KillerQueen840 : "Alice is the MAN".
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its_a_hard_life 26994
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Micrówave
[QUOTE]And I agree with ThomasQuinn on another point, Microwave - you DO need to pull your head out of your ass. You seem to pick fights with people here everyday, way more than I do in a week. You do know that having too much personal pride is a sin, right? [/QUOTE]
Not when I'm right.
What you fail to see, inu-liger, is that TQ and YOU are both musical morons who apparently only listen to CDs that they've owned for over ten years.
PROOF OF YOUR IDIOCY:
[QUOTE]"And just because you can solo, doesn't make you a good songwriter"
People have to start somewhere. You can't write music if you don't have the skills, patience and passion required.[/QUOTE]
Michael Jackson was writing songs when he was 7. So he had solos, skills, patience, and passion all mastered at 7, huh?
Radio still is a very current format, just nowadays we have internet radio, satellite radio, and still the good-old fashioned radio. That's how you hear new music. Not sitting around waiting for the new Ozzy CD. And let's look what Ozzy did in 2001. He re-recorded Diary and Blizzard to remove the original band member's performances because they sued him. So he destroyed good music for money and personal pride.
Plus, while you accused me of picking a fight (Note: TQ started the agressiveness, as he always does), you failed to address anything relevant, like Alice's shitty Poison album. Where's the good instrumentation on that? Where's the Jeff Beck part there?
Bottom line, Alice is just mad that his records don't sell like Lady Gaga's.
Not when I'm right.
What you fail to see, inu-liger, is that TQ and YOU are both musical morons who apparently only listen to CDs that they've owned for over ten years.
PROOF OF YOUR IDIOCY:
[QUOTE]"And just because you can solo, doesn't make you a good songwriter"
People have to start somewhere. You can't write music if you don't have the skills, patience and passion required.[/QUOTE]
Michael Jackson was writing songs when he was 7. So he had solos, skills, patience, and passion all mastered at 7, huh?
Radio still is a very current format, just nowadays we have internet radio, satellite radio, and still the good-old fashioned radio. That's how you hear new music. Not sitting around waiting for the new Ozzy CD. And let's look what Ozzy did in 2001. He re-recorded Diary and Blizzard to remove the original band member's performances because they sued him. So he destroyed good music for money and personal pride.
Plus, while you accused me of picking a fight (Note: TQ started the agressiveness, as he always does), you failed to address anything relevant, like Alice's shitty Poison album. Where's the good instrumentation on that? Where's the Jeff Beck part there?
Bottom line, Alice is just mad that his records don't sell like Lady Gaga's.
Micrówave
You want a good song with great instrumentation by one of these pee-wee wankers?
Try Fireflies by Owl City. The first time I heard that song two years ago, I knew it was a hit the moment it hit my ears. Sure enough, top downloaded song of 2009. Great song, very well written, and great instrumentation. Better than anything Alice has put out in the last 15 years.
Try Fireflies by Owl City. The first time I heard that song two years ago, I knew it was a hit the moment it hit my ears. Sure enough, top downloaded song of 2009. Great song, very well written, and great instrumentation. Better than anything Alice has put out in the last 15 years.
thomasquinn 32989
I can only smile with a mix of pity and "schadenfreude" at Microwave's remarks. The desperately self-conscious "this is modern rock so we don't have to solo, dude"-attitude he seems to be defending says it all - he's missed the point completely, as per usual.
Oh, by the way, Microwave, I'm neither an Alice Cooper nor a Jeff Beck-fan. There's another one of your prejudices down the drain.
@Sir GH:
Yes, you are right that good music matching the characteristics AC mentions is being made outside the mainstream, but that does not mean that Cooper isn't right in voicing this criticism - the fact remains that pop and mainstream rock are heading in the same direction as they were for a while in the '90s, namely away from proficient musicianship and towards a situation where the only technically capable person involved in making a record is the engineer, as was the case with all those synthetic groups we are so happily rid of.
I for one think that the increasingly lazy and apathetic mainstream is long overdue for a refreshing new start, where it is "the best music we can sell" rather than "anything we can sell" that drives the recording industry. It is painfully obvious, though, that very few artists care for quality any more than their companies.
Oh, by the way, Microwave, I'm neither an Alice Cooper nor a Jeff Beck-fan. There's another one of your prejudices down the drain.
@Sir GH:
Yes, you are right that good music matching the characteristics AC mentions is being made outside the mainstream, but that does not mean that Cooper isn't right in voicing this criticism - the fact remains that pop and mainstream rock are heading in the same direction as they were for a while in the '90s, namely away from proficient musicianship and towards a situation where the only technically capable person involved in making a record is the engineer, as was the case with all those synthetic groups we are so happily rid of.
I for one think that the increasingly lazy and apathetic mainstream is long overdue for a refreshing new start, where it is "the best music we can sell" rather than "anything we can sell" that drives the recording industry. It is painfully obvious, though, that very few artists care for quality any more than their companies.
inu-liger
"What you fail to see, inu-liger, is that TQ and YOU are both musical morons who apparently only listen to CDs that they've owned for over ten years. PROOF OF YOUR IDIOCY"
WHAT proof? You are so fucked in the head, it's not even funny. I actually listen to a wide range of both new AND old music, I just don't care for most of the new stuff they put on radio. Emphasis on MOST, because for every 9 bad songs out of 10, there is one I will actually find "Hey, I really LIKE this tune I've never heard before!"
I even seek out tons of music, both domestic and international, that piques my interests far more often than the average iTunes "top 40" listings.
How old are you, really?
"Michael Jackson was writing songs when he was 7. So he had solos, skills, patience, and passion all mastered
at 7, huh?"
He'd been singing since 5 years of age or so, so he had some experience going already - yet I HIGHLY doubt he'd mastered those skills by that age. You should know yourself, Mr. Music-Know-It-All, that GOOD skills take TIME to perfect, and even then no-one is ever 100% perfect. People can lapse and make mistakes you know, including musicians.
And although MJ was VERY young maybe he DID find a passion already by that time which inspired him to start writing music. He could have easily gone the Elvis route otherwise and have people write his whole catalogue FOR him, but then we might not have ever seen many of his great tunes come to life either.
"Radio still is a very current format, just nowadays we have internet radio, satellite radio, and still the good-old fashioned
radio. That's how you hear new music. Not sitting around waiting for the new Ozzy CD. And let's look what Ozzy did in 2001. He re-recorded Diary and Blizzard to remove the original band member's performances because they sued him. So he destroyed good music for money and personal pride."
What does the Ozzy part have to do with this conversation? And you know what, radio has always been a form of promoting new music out there. What you really mean to say is that the radio execs have only been experimenting in finding new ways of expanding radio beyond traditional means in order to keep people interested.
"Plus, while you accused me of picking a fight (Note: TQ started the agressiveness, as he always does), you failed to address anything relevant, like Alice's shitty Poison album. Where's the good instrumentation on that? Where's the Jeff Beck part there?"
Your points for the most part have been lacking in relevant sensible means to back up your point (eg. sources), so I don't think you should be talking, O Tunnel-Vision Sighted of Thee. Also, TQ isn't the source of all your negative postings and you know that, so I wouldn't go selectively picking my eggs out of a carton if I were you.
"Bottomline, Alice is just mad that his records don't sell like Lady Gaga's."
There will be a day when Lady GaGa's record sales fail to match Alice's sales in his prime. It happens to everyone, don't be so narrow-sighted you silly little boy. What goes up must eventually come down, that's the natural law of musical economics.
WHAT proof? You are so fucked in the head, it's not even funny. I actually listen to a wide range of both new AND old music, I just don't care for most of the new stuff they put on radio. Emphasis on MOST, because for every 9 bad songs out of 10, there is one I will actually find "Hey, I really LIKE this tune I've never heard before!"
I even seek out tons of music, both domestic and international, that piques my interests far more often than the average iTunes "top 40" listings.
How old are you, really?
"Michael Jackson was writing songs when he was 7. So he had solos, skills, patience, and passion all mastered
at 7, huh?"
He'd been singing since 5 years of age or so, so he had some experience going already - yet I HIGHLY doubt he'd mastered those skills by that age. You should know yourself, Mr. Music-Know-It-All, that GOOD skills take TIME to perfect, and even then no-one is ever 100% perfect. People can lapse and make mistakes you know, including musicians.
And although MJ was VERY young maybe he DID find a passion already by that time which inspired him to start writing music. He could have easily gone the Elvis route otherwise and have people write his whole catalogue FOR him, but then we might not have ever seen many of his great tunes come to life either.
"Radio still is a very current format, just nowadays we have internet radio, satellite radio, and still the good-old fashioned
radio. That's how you hear new music. Not sitting around waiting for the new Ozzy CD. And let's look what Ozzy did in 2001. He re-recorded Diary and Blizzard to remove the original band member's performances because they sued him. So he destroyed good music for money and personal pride."
What does the Ozzy part have to do with this conversation? And you know what, radio has always been a form of promoting new music out there. What you really mean to say is that the radio execs have only been experimenting in finding new ways of expanding radio beyond traditional means in order to keep people interested.
"Plus, while you accused me of picking a fight (Note: TQ started the agressiveness, as he always does), you failed to address anything relevant, like Alice's shitty Poison album. Where's the good instrumentation on that? Where's the Jeff Beck part there?"
Your points for the most part have been lacking in relevant sensible means to back up your point (eg. sources), so I don't think you should be talking, O Tunnel-Vision Sighted of Thee. Also, TQ isn't the source of all your negative postings and you know that, so I wouldn't go selectively picking my eggs out of a carton if I were you.
"Bottomline, Alice is just mad that his records don't sell like Lady Gaga's."
There will be a day when Lady GaGa's record sales fail to match Alice's sales in his prime. It happens to everyone, don't be so narrow-sighted you silly little boy. What goes up must eventually come down, that's the natural law of musical economics.
Micrówave
Actually, I think Lady Gaga has sold more than Alice already.
But since you fail to see what I've mentioned, lets make it more simple for you two simpletons. The average song length has dropped about a full minute since Alice's heyday. So an average song runs maybe 3 minutes. Where do you put the Jeff Beck part.
I guess since Stone Cold Crazy has no Jeff Beck part, it sucks, too?
I've picked three totally different artists: Green Day, Owl City, and Lady Gaga. All three are great musicians and entertainers. All you two have said is you listen to a variety of music. LIKE WHAT?!?!?! Muse? Dream Theatre?
If you're so into a wide variety, then how come you're agreeing with Alice? You can't come up with three groups that have decent musicians? Again I say maybe you should expand your CD collection, nimrod.
And a minor point, Inu-liger. I gave you "proof of your idiocy" in a pretty little box. And you totally missed it!!! Did I have to put it in bold shiny font, too? Why not read the entire post before spewing your nonsense? Then maybe you can address the points correctly. Next time I'll use a crayon and 28 point font. Will that help?
But since you fail to see what I've mentioned, lets make it more simple for you two simpletons. The average song length has dropped about a full minute since Alice's heyday. So an average song runs maybe 3 minutes. Where do you put the Jeff Beck part.
I guess since Stone Cold Crazy has no Jeff Beck part, it sucks, too?
I've picked three totally different artists: Green Day, Owl City, and Lady Gaga. All three are great musicians and entertainers. All you two have said is you listen to a variety of music. LIKE WHAT?!?!?! Muse? Dream Theatre?
If you're so into a wide variety, then how come you're agreeing with Alice? You can't come up with three groups that have decent musicians? Again I say maybe you should expand your CD collection, nimrod.
And a minor point, Inu-liger. I gave you "proof of your idiocy" in a pretty little box. And you totally missed it!!! Did I have to put it in bold shiny font, too? Why not read the entire post before spewing your nonsense? Then maybe you can address the points correctly. Next time I'll use a crayon and 28 point font. Will that help?
inu-liger
Listen, I don't accept so-called "PROOF" from those who already claim they know everything about my music collection. YOU are failing to get the point here, not me. I am TRYING to see where it is you are coming from, but you are clearly not doing the same. So I'm just going to walk away from this argument here, because it's not worth my time.
Have a nice day, O Tunnel Vision Sighted of Thee.
Have a nice day, O Tunnel Vision Sighted of Thee.
thomasquinn 32989
Lady Gaga is not a "great musician". I do not even feel the need to back that statement up with arguments, because it is so evident. Green Day have potential, I just don't understand what they're trying to achieve.
GratefulFan
I think Lady Gaga is definitely a significant musican and a significant artist. I also find that glaringly obvious. You gotta get past the panties people! :)
andreas_mercury
lady gaga = talentless manufactured garbage adn a secretly hiding a penis to boot