Whatever happened to Wilki?

It's ultimately regrettable how negatively GF turned for the worse as a person here, honesty. To THINK, the year before she went berserk defending Fuller, she used to be so nice and even once allowed us to participate in a Queen goodies giveaway from her own collection.

Geez. What a world!

Wonder how she is now?
How are you GF?

Back to topic - whatever happened to Wilki?

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[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]

GF: I also recall you enjoyed having frequent pops at me about deleting my angrier ranting posts - after the event - when I had time to reflect on and regret my childish foolishness.

Now I see that you have done the same above: "Posted: 12 Feb 14, 08:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote".

Funny how you seem to mirror everything I was saying/doing two years ago; except now you find it totally logic and acceptable.
How times change (for the better).[/QUOTE]

She reflected on an earlier post and added her thoughts in a later post. She did not delete nor modify her post.

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Page 2 of this thread
Post 10 of page 2
(Middle post of GF's 3)
SHOWS otherwise.

This post HAS indeed been deleted! so you CANNOT say "She did not delete nor modify her post" - because she did delete! A blind man in a dark room can see that!

I am just calling this because when/if I deleted a post (and explained afterwards why - "I reflected on an earlier post and have added my thoughts in a later post") - she was the most unforgiving b*tch in the board.

Now she has done exactly the same thing and it has come back to haunt her; I find it all very ironic, hypocritical and most of all amusing. Now; I can't be incorrect here (yet) as the evidence is still there for all to see. (Unless it is modified later).


As I said; how times change for the better.

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GF had two posts one minute apart. Sounds to me like a double post.

[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]

It's ultimately regrettable how negatively GF turned for the worse as a person here, honesty. To THINK, the year before she went berserk defending Fuller, she used to be so nice and even once allowed us to participate in a Queen goodies giveaway from her own collection.

Geez. What a world![/QUOTE]

... an excellent observation by Peter Pettigrew aka Scabbers

^^^ Don't you think you should give it a rest with the petty name-calling, Panchgani? Even if you don't agree with Inu, there's no need for that: all you're doing is belittling your own character. We all know what side of the fence you sit on, which, respectfully, is your own prerogative - you don't have to reinforce your stance with comments like that.

I know there's upset on both sides, and both are equally trying to put their side of the story across. For what it's worth, I class both Inu and GF as friends, both here and elsewhere, and would love this to stop. I can see why both are upset, and I can see why both want the other to back down - however, maybe we should lay off this topic altogether as it's spilling over throughout the whole forum. It'd be nice to see everyone getting on, but if it's not going to happen then we're better off saying nothing on it at all.

[QUOTE] [b]Walter White wrote:[/b]

^^^ Don't you think you should give it a rest with the petty name-calling, Panchgani? Even if you don't agree with Inu, there's no need for that: all you're doing is belittling your own character. We all know what side of the fence you sit on, which, respectfully, is your own prerogative - you don't have to reinforce your stance with comments like that.

I know there's upset on both sides, and both are equally trying to put their side of the story across. For what it's worth, I class both Inu and GF as friends, both here and elsewhere, and would love this to stop. I can see why both are upset, and I can see why both want the other to back down - however, maybe we should lay off this topic altogether as it's spilling over throughout the whole forum. It'd be nice to see everyone getting on, but if it's not going to happen then we're better off saying nothing on it at all.


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You do not seem to care about insults Inu leveled at GF.

I won't stand by while Inu insults GF, while Inu plays victim. If he can dish out the abuse, he can sure as well take it.

You know...my offer to GF still stands. I'm willing to keep it simple and put this bullshit entirely behind us if she would just stop being a difficult person and regain some Canadianly common sense to just simply apologize for the derogatory, insensitive use of the "Alberta Urkel" namecalling, regardless if the word "Urkel" alone was uttered even once or not before I revealed myself as the source of the complaint filed against Fuller. It still fucking hurt my feelings and is not something I made up as a convenient attack prop, I am 100% for real on this.

It really ONLY takes a couple of minutes to write a sincere apology and retract those insults. I'm not asking for a fucking 5-page long apology or an impossible miracle!
Be reasonable GratefulFan and do the right thing. I will hold up my end and stop the counter attacks as well as apologize for any nasty insults I hurled your way in turn during the duration of the Fuller debacle, along with the aforementioned offer to not discuss each other's roles in the debacle in our future postings. This is my final offer. I am NOT a wholly unreasonable person and I hope you can recognize that.

Regardless whether "Urkel" was uttered previously or not, I think we can agree that we could benefit from not stressing each other out any more by ending this constant war of words , yes? It's gotten beyond stupid and silly, and I think it's time we put an end to this.

I agree with Walter.

There are two types of bullying. Actual deliberate bullying and perceived bullying.

Perceived bullying is where it exists from perhaps a misunderstanding - but the victim still feels bullied - and it is still real - to him!
For example; I could make a blanket statement in that I disagree with all forms of genital mutilation in children. That does not make me anti-Semitic - just anti-barbarianism (in my opinion).
If a Jewish reader felt offended at that, or thought I was having a pop at their religious beliefs (which I am not); they still have the right to say that they feel upset/sensitive or bullied by this remark - even though my intention was further from the truth - because the fact is - they DO!
In such a case a simple clarification: "I am really sorry if you feel offended or upset by what I said; but in truth it was not meant to hurt anyone. I still believe what in what I said; but I honestly did not mean to upset anyone by it".

My point is - actual or perceived - Richard feels intimidated and threatened. To him that is real. A few lines to say "sorry but crossed wires" will not kill anyone.

But your bullying Panchgani IS deliberate and meant to offend; and that is simply unacceptable in any society.

As for deleting posts - If I posted a double post - my mistakes were not so lightly dismissed. I was told that I was to write "Double Post" rather than leave a blank space because some paranoid folks in here thought that the remaining blank space involved conjuring up the anti-Christ or something.

I have seen a lot of double-standards in here lately. Pots calling kettles black and all that. But unlike many in here my withdrawl from QZ has been without fanfare and my contributions minimum; because when I shut down my PC, no one in here exists!

I don't think we can give Dave the credit for wanting to "change the system". I don't think he operates based on higher principles. Ha.

[QUOTE] [b]Walter White wrote:[/b]

^^^ Don't you think you should give it a rest with the petty name-calling, Panchgani? Even if you don't agree with Inu, there's no need for that: all you're doing is belittling your own character. We all know what side of the fence you sit on, which, respectfully, is your own prerogative - you don't have to reinforce your stance with comments like that.
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He seems to follow Inu around on the board, gleefully calling him names whenever he gets the opportunity. It's just pathetic; all he does is bully Inu instead of contributing anything worthwhile to the board.

[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]

You do not seem to care about insults Inu leveled at GF.

I won't stand by while Inu insults GF, while Inu plays victim. If he can dish out the abuse, he can sure as well take it.
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What a ridiculous and completely misinformed comment. I'm sure GF would tell you that herself. I said that I class BOTH as friends, here and elsewhere, and would love this to stop. I also said I can see why there's upset on BOTH sides.

I really think this whole situation is unfortunate, but GF is a grown, intelligent woman who can fight her own battles if she needs to, without a sidekick who needs to hound Inu on what looks like every corner he turns. Why would you personally need to insult Inu for insulting GF anyway? If it came to it, it'd be down to those two.

However, since you've taken on the role as her enforcer, at least think before you post, because you're way off the mark with the comment you've just directed at me.

OR, we could all just drop it, like I suggested above. It's sad that Inu and GF may never reconcile, but that's life.

http://blog.theautismsite.com/do-you-have-aspergers-syndrome/?utm_source=social&utm_medium=autaware&utm_campaign=do-you-have-aspergers-syndrome&utm_term=20140216

Jesus H. Rollerskating Christ. Do you people even realize that you're shoulder-deep in Paranoia Lake right now? As if the whole "Fanthology"-crap wasn't bizarre and overblown enough (and apparently the source of endless conspiracy-theory-entertainment for panchgani), we are now getting into the even more outlandish territory of supposed cyber-espionage. Can any of you still think reasonably? Let me put it like this: even if all GF says is true (which I'm not saying it is, because there are still a number of unanswered questions - how can there be a targeted search on the basis of information you say yourself you didn't disclose at any time, for instance?), how serious is a targeted google search for publicly available information? It'd be a different story if your e-mails got redirected to the QZ-mod or something, but this is just a completely banal non-entity of a problem.

What's wrong with QZ more than anything, except perhaps the spamming and trolling, is that people here do not seem to have any sense of perspective anymore.

I don't know how the information was acquired. I learned the hard way several years ago that online, where there is a will, there is a way. In this instance I can point out that my QZ login/email address contains my last name, and my first name was known to a handful here at the time. My last name is a very rare name - only a handful of us in the world. I am the only person on the planet as far as I know with my combination of first and last name.

Anyway, Thomas, since it happened to me I'm the one who gets to decide how it feels. When the context is a wild, wild, ignorant bias, and when it is further happening in an atmosphere where flat out vindictive campaigns are ignored by the moderators (the digging up and posting of Gerry's picture for example, among others), what it felt was intimidating. I couldn't continue here without feeling disquiet about what was going to happen next if people who had demonstrated unreasonable drooling dislike toward me were willing to push into my personal life uninvited. And then come and indirectly scream about it on the boards. Given my beliefs about the source of the search, the failure to acknowledge it adds another layer of ick.

Anyway, you said several times you didn't like me anyway. You should just be glad I left. lol.

"Should I stay, or should I go?"