Brian May to become Vegan!!!!!!!!!!!

[b]ivq said:
[i]That's some utter drivel right there. Go eat some dirty vegetables and see your B12 sky rocket. In truth, there would be no absorption of the B12. And there is no B12 in plants. And yes, humans do need their B12, unlike true herbivores, they don't produce it.[/i][/b]

You are wrong on that. B12 is a substance in the soil. Animals consume it, as said, as a residue on plants, and carnivores get it from eating their flesh. It is now recommended by some that everyone take a B12 supplement who consumes factory-farmed animal products because the animals no longer have access to the soil, and thier feed is more refined.

I was vegan, and still would be if my husband had gone along. I would only recommend eating animal products these days if you can get them from a source other than factory raised as that stuff is toxic. One really should only eat organically produced plant products too as the commercial stuff is devoid of nutrients, sometimes genetically modified and possibly contaminated with herbicides and pesticides.

I hate to force my views on people, and I won't. However, I truly encourage anyone to watch the Paul McCartney documentary 'Glass Walls', which exposes the cruel realities of slaughter houses. It made me consider myself to work my way towards vegetarianism. As of right now, I'm a pescetarian-vegetarian so per say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTifP6idBPs

As for Brian May being a vegan, I wouldn't try that myself but I respect his decision. I personally have found that it's hard to find the same nutrients from dairy products on a strict vegan diet.

While I respect vegans' decision and concern towards animals, I don't approve of the way how some of them (especially PETA members) have bullying tactics to force people into veganism.

I have been vegetarian nearly ALL my life and VEGAN for around 7 years and I can tell you, you are all talking rubbish.

Blank posts never happen to carnivores. Just sayin'.

For me it's about how the animal is treated. If it is raised in a cruel, soulless manner, (mass production line) I won't eat the meat. This has lead me to not eating meat for two decades...

However, if you're talking about hunting a deer in an over-populated area, due to lack of natural predators, then I wouldn't have a problem eating that venison.

The deer is in its natural environment where they have to be aware of predators,(wolves/ cougars /coyotes etc.) They aren't mass produced in a sterile factory given no chance at life. In their natural environment they have a chance to escape or avoid, they can't do that in a steel cage.

Ah, it's all about awareness of how we treat fellow living creatures and either agreeing that we can go overboard with cruelty or not caring about cruelty because animals are inferior beings who are meant to be devoured.

Ha ha! Good one GratefulFan.............although I can't take responsibility for the double post, I only posted once but two showed up. :)

I don't want to get into a discussion about veganism here but I just wanted to point out that being vegan is the healthiest way to live. Dairy fills your arteries with cholesterol and fat. Why do you think doctors recommend we eat 5 portions of fruit and vegetables a day to be healthy? I don't hear them saying eat 5 portions of meat and dairy a day.........infact they actively discourage this.
I just hope Brian May is vegan...........he is a lovely person and has a good heart, so if he is then that is something to be proud of not scorned. :)

[QUOTE] [b]pipijolk wrote:[/b]
For me it's about how the animal is treated. If it is raised in a cruel, soulless manner, (mass production line) I won't eat the meat. This has lead me to not eating meat for two decades...

However, if you're talking about hunting a deer in an over-populated area, due to lack of natural predators, then I wouldn't have a problem eating that venison.

The deer is in its natural environment where they have to be aware of predators,(wolves/ cougars /coyotes etc.) They aren't mass produced in a sterile factory given no chance at life. In their natural environment they have a chance to escape or avoid, they can't do that in a steel cage.

Ah, it's all about awareness of how we treat fellow living creatures and either agreeing that we can go overboard with cruelty or not caring about cruelty because animals are inferior beings who are meant to be devoured.
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Excellent post.

Hard job being a vegetarianism, yet alone a vegan. I think blokes probably need meat more, but then again my niece's weight problems only started when she became a vegetarian. She takes supplments to get the nutrients she would otherwise miss, but all those carbs she needs to fill her up can't be good weightwise.

I have to say I have never had a problem maintaining a healthy weight. I think if anyone can't achieve a healthy weight it's because they just aren't eating enough........no matter what diet they are on.

The majority of people today are overweight and that's caused by their unhealthy non vegan diet. Heart disease and cancer have been linked to eating animal products.......it's just NOT a healthy thing to do. It's better for your health, the planet and of course the animals if you are vegan. :)

Hi Sandravegan
Some people are lucky when it comes to their weight. I wonder if you are one of those. Others need to eat right to stay thin.

Eating the right things proactively, which I assume is what you are saying, certainly helps with weight loss. And I think protein, usually in the form of meat, eggs or fish along with leafy green vegetables seems to work well in this respect.

On the other hand, I've noticed my niece stocking up on high carb foods like potatoes and rice to satisfy her hunger, which relatively smallish amount of animal protein might well suppress more effectively because of the appetite retardant effect of protein.

Just on your point about unhealthy non vegan diets, I agree that too much red meat is linked to inflammation which can lead to heart disease etc, although not too much meat and plenty of fish seems to be quite a good healthy combination because of the anti-inflammatory effects of the fish oils.

I reckon you would need to be spot on with your diet and your supplements to get the same benefits from a vegan diet, because of the risk of deficiencies of particular vitamins, minerals and other nutrients. Havings said that, I am far from an expert on vegan diets.

You are right Heavenite, some people are just lucky with their weight and others only have to look at food and they put on weight.
If you Google the vegan diet you will learn that it contains ALL the protein, vitamins etc that the human body needs to be healthy. Afterall we are just eating food like everyone else.
You may be surprised to learn that there are numerous vegan foods that contain protein for example. I for one have never been told that I am deficient in ANYTHING. I have had routine blood tests through the years and all come back perfectly normal. Plus, my cholesterol levels are very very low due to the fact that I am not consuming extra cholesterol from animal foods. I suppose I'm fighting a losing battle here trying to persuade you that being vegan is the way to go but as I said just Google some stuff about veganism and you will see that it's not so strange afterall. What's strange to me is the fact that adult human beings are still drinking the milk of another species. Milk that was designed for the young of that species. Now, that to me is weird. :)

I eat what is put in front of me.

Well, I suppose cannibals would say that too. :)

Plus, it doesn't matter whether the animals are commercial raised to be killed or killed by a hunter...........animals should NOT be killed for humans to eat. They have a right to their lives just as we have a right not to be eaten by cannibals.