Martin" is NOT a reliable source for authentication... he is giving his opinion based on seeing many comparable signatures. He is not a certified authenticator and therefore NOT liable if it turns out his opinion was wrong.
That's right but two opinions of two different experienced collectors is more likely to be the real deal than one sinlge opinion - that's simple math :-), rest of this discussion points out to be what we call Kindergarten in Germany, sorry this is NOT meant to offend members that do not agree with me, thanks!
Oh b. t. w. what the hell is a certified authenticator? Please don't tell us that you buy autographs with COA's...
thefallenqueen wrote:
two opinions of two different experienced collectors is more likely to be the real deal than one sinlge opinion - that's simple math.
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Yes, but I, an experienced collector, share the same opinion as people on the streets, who is also an experienced collector, and that opinion is that this is not the real deal. So your simple math theory isn't reliable, either. Just remember it was you who said that a large collection doesn't make an expert - ergo, your large collection of autographs doesn't put you in any better a position to say said signed LP sleeve is genuine. I'm not here to "out" anyone, but I know the OP and, from my many encounters with him, have found him not to be reliable. The fact that he has several accounts here and uses one to advertise items and then the others to promote their "provenance" solidifies my assessment of his reliability. As I said, I will not "out" him, but I do know what I am talking about. Furthermore, my above post stands - at no point was I anything but polite to you, and it was unfair for you to judge me as "unrefined". And as for comparing the debate to Kindergarten?.....if the cap fits!
The cover is part of my collection now, I bought it, I love it. You do not think it's genuine, you did not buy it, you do not love it. Well seems to be an happy end for all those who were involved. Amen.
thefallenqueen wrote: The cover is part of my collection now, I bought it, I love it. You do not think it's genuine, you did not buy it, you do not love it. Well seems to be an happy end for all those who were involved. Amen.
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Well, if you bought it, that's fair enough - I'm glad you're happy. It genuinely couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Noted, though, that you have still danced around the issue of bandying around insults for no apparent reason. Never mind, enjoy your LP.
Enjoy your fake. I'm sure all your friends will be impressed.
Maybe you could tell 'em that Freddie specifically autographed it for you.
Oh yes I told them and they were impressed, and nobody wondered how I could meet him Freddie while I was just a little boy :-)
[QUOTE]thefallenqueen wrote: Martin" is NOT a reliable source for authentication... he is giving his opinion based on seeing many comparable signatures. He is not a certified authenticator and therefore NOT liable if it turns out his opinion was wrong.
That's right but two opinions of two different experienced collectors is more likely to be the real deal than one sinlge opinion - that's simple math :-), rest of this discussion points out to be what we call Kindergarten in Germany, sorry this is NOT meant to offend members that do not agree with me, thanks! [/QUOTE]
Well, here's some even simplier math that throws that theory of yours to waste.
Out of all the autographs that Martin and "The Other Guy" have seen, they've been wrong at least once. Unfortunately you can't determine which one they were wrong about. And after seeing that fake and establishing it as valid, now future comparisons are made against that fake that they think is real. As that happens, the chance of being wrong increases significantly.
At some point, they're going to end up being wrong more times than right. Problem is, you don't know if that's already happened or not.
I love math.
Cant believe microwave called me a pinhead :(
It was either that or Jason, Mike Myers, or Freddie Krueger.
I went with the Hellraiser movies.
seasofrhye09 wrote: Cant believe microwave called me a pinhead :(
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I prefer con-merchant! Still, goes to prove that you and 2011records ARE the same person. So you may have fooled fallenqueen....but you know what they say, JT, about a fool and their money. As for me, I'm gonna make sure you DONT do it again, at least here on QZ. As for falllenqueen - they WILL realise. I pity the fool, to coin a phrase.
Thistleboy wrote: So you may have fooled fallenqueen
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I don't give a f... who is who in this forum and who has one, two or more identities, just to clear up one thing: I do not rely on any opinion but my own when I buy autographs. B.t.w. you experts, I've recently been fooled again and bought another Freddie's autograph. So let me know what you do not like in this one.
thefallenqueen wrote: Thistleboy wrote: So you may have fooled fallenqueen
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I don't give a f... who is who in this forum and who has one, two or more identities, just to clear up one thing: I do not rely on any opinion but my own when I buy autographs. B.t.w. you experts, I've recently been fooled again and bought another Freddie's autograph. So let me know what you do not like in this one. =============================================================================================
You don't give a "f"? Well you should...when a seller creates an identity and then uses another to try to add provenance to the item, then that's alarm bells. And I've never claimed to be an expert, get that into your head.
I don't give an "F" anymore either. In fact, I'm selling ALL my Queen Autographs right now.
The first up is a copy of THE GAME signed by all four members of Queen in very bright blue ink.
$5
First come, first served.
Guaranteed authentic. Comes with a Certificate of Authenticity.
Micrówave wrote: I don't give an "F" anymore either. In fact, I'm selling ALL my Queen Autographs right now.
The first up is a copy of THE GAME signed by all four members of Queen in very bright blue ink.
$5
First come, first served.
Guaranteed authentic. Comes with a Certificate of Authenticity. =============================================================================================
Some Kiwi told me you bought it off him, so it must be real. I won't even need a photo - you've just sold it Mr. Wave, $5 deposited into your account just now.
