Thistleboy 1980 wrote: kurgan100 wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Well, Jacky told me that a signed LP I had was genuine and it turned out not to be!
Reply: How did you come to this conclusion?
Because the seller later admitted it!!!!
Reply: Well this kind of sums it up for me.
You purchased an autograph that the seller later admitted was fake?
First of all I thought you may have got it from the fan club, but now I presume you just asked Jacky if it was a fake?
If so, then perhaps she would have made guess?
When the seller later informed you, did he admit faking it himself?
It's like I've being saying all along, never BUY autographs and don't listen to anyone who tries to verify authenticity.
I'm not defending anyone here, just trying to clarify the sequence of events.
Is the seller dead now?
thefallenqueen wrote: do you really believe you can say if a Brian's signature from the last years is genuine or not?
Reply: Who are you asking?
thefallenqueen wrote: no 4 is still poor fake... though it's a nice story, go and ask Jacky WHO signed it
Reply: OK, thanks.
I'll chuck it now, as I know you are 100% sure.
The chain of events is this:
1 - saw NOTW signed LP (Brian, Roger and John) on ebay at low starting price.
2 - as I hadn't dabbled with Queen autographs before, I sent the picture to Jacky. She authenticated it as, without any doubt in her mind, 100% genuine. Not a chance it was a fake.
3 - Won the auction.
4 - A fellow collector compares with his collection (most signed in person) and has doubts about mine.
5 - I contact the seller, who says he bought it as part of a job lot, is a one-off, and was sold in good faith.
6 - Seller later has tonnes more, all looking exactly the same.
7 - I contact him again
8 - he eventually admits that he knows they're likely fakes, but has been getting "rid" of them. He didn't admit to personally doing the signatures.
9 - won paypal dispute.
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: The chain of events is this:
1 - saw NOTW signed LP (Brian, Roger and John) on ebay at low starting price.
2 - as I hadn't dabbled with Queen autographs before, I sent the picture to Jacky. She authenticated it as, without any doubt in her mind, 100% genuine.
3 - Wn the auction.
4 - A fellow collector compares with his collection (most signed in person) and has doubts about mine.
5 - I contact the seller, who says he bought it as part of a job lot, is a one-off, and was sold in good faith.
6 - Seller later has tonnes more, all looking exactly the same.
7 - I contact him again
8 - he eventually admits that he know they're likely fakes, but has been getting "rid" of them. He didn't admit to personally doing the signatures.
9 - won paypal dispute.
Reply: Ok, I see
Then it boils down to the fact you accepted the advice of a third party on the verification (authenticity) of an autograph before purchasing it, something I am banging on about NOT doing.
I wouldn't even accept a band member to verify their own signature at a later date.
My wife can sign my name as good as me, I really can't tell it's not my signature on some of the things she has signed on my behalf.
You say he admitted they were likely fakes.
You won't like this, but 'likely' and 'definitely' are two different things entirely.
Aye, it was him dancing around the fact he knew they were fakes. First, it was a one-off, bought and sold in good faith. Then, he had a load of them. Then another load. And then another......
I've already said, numerous times, I get your point. I can't stess enough I get your point. But I also can't stress enough that everyone has, and is entitled to, their own opinions. And if I'm asked, I'll give that opinion.
You have your opinion,I have mine, and we've already agreed to disagree.
What's the point in dragging it out???? We're only going round in circles and making the same point over and over again!!!
