So, with the Deluxe Editions adding some, but not all, of the BBC recordings to the bonus discs, we're still left with a few officially unreleased tracks from those six sessions.
Released:
1st BBC Session (Feb 5th, 1973) My Fairy King Keep Yourself Alive Doing Alright Liar
On "Queen At The Beeb" (UK) & "Queen At The BBC" (US) Also, "Keep Yourself Alive" on the "Crown Jewels" promo CD single Also, "My Fairy King," "Doing Alright" and "Liar" on the "Let Me Live" CD single
2nd BBC Session (July 25th, 1973) See What A Fool I've Been
On "Queen II" Deluxe Edition bonus disc
3rd BBC Session (Dec. 3rd, 1973) Ogre Battle (Edit) Great King Rat Modern Times Rock And Roll Son And Daughter
On "Queen At The Beeb" (UK) & "Queen At The BBC" (US)
4th BBC Session (April 3rd, 1973) Nevermore
On "Queen II" Deluxe Edition bonus disc
5th BBC Session Flick Of the Wrist Tenement Funster
On "Sheer Heart Attack" Deluxe Edition bonus disc
6th BBC Session We Will Rock You (Fast Version)
On The Sun promo CD single
Which leaves the following still sitting in the vault, listed by song and session:
Liar (BBC #2) Keep Yourself Alive (BBC #2) Son And Daughter (BBC #2) Ogre Battle (BBC #3) (Complete Version - Presumed damaged?) Modern Times Rock And Roll (BBC #4) The March Of The Black Queen (BBC #4) (has it been confirmed that they used the album version here?) White Queen (As It Began) (BBC #4) (**Post Edited, thanks SirGH**) Stone Cold Crazy (BBC #5) Now I'm Here (BBC #5)
And it's still possible some or all of the 6th Session, with the NOTW tracks, will appear on the Deluxe Ed. of that album.
Thoughts?
Pim Derks · Member since
I think it's a disgrace that these recordings still have not been compiled in a 2-disc package.
Dr Zoidberg · Member since
I dunno that I'd go so far as to use the word "disgrace" but I definitely agree that no complete Queen BBC sessions before now is pretty baffling.
The Real Wizard · Member since
You should add White Queen from session 4 to the list of BBC songs not yet released.
If they put out even two of the four 1977 tracks, one of which is Spread Your Wings, then I'd say they will have done good. Has any band released their complete BBC sessions? Zeppelin and The Beatles certainly haven't. So I'm not sure why anyone should feel entitled to have them all .. especially since all of the tracks are already available unofficially. We're really quite lucky to have them.
rhyeking · Member since
Oops, missed that track. Thanks, Sir GH. I fixed the post just now.
I think what bugs fans about Queen not yet issuing all their BBC tracks is that compared to, say, The Beatles, who had a crapload and a lot of the same songs over and over, Queen had exactly 24 (or 23, if you exclude "Black Queen," assuming it's the Album Version edited). That's not really a lot and would easily fill up 2 discs. I'm happy a single disc was released, but the completist in me will always want, well, the complete set. Yes, I have good quality bootlegs, but I've always been willing to pay for official material, particularly if its an improvement over the 2nd or 3rd generation fileshares.
And to keep this in perspective, I'm not one those fans driven to frustration by what QPL hasn't released. These things don't keep me up nights. I regard most unreleased material as "It would be nice if they released it. Maybe someday..."
:-)
Ray D O'Gaga · Member since
I certainly don't feel "entitled" to anything but as the previous poster remarked, with a third of them already released and with only a couple of dozen tracks extant, slapping them all on a couple of CDs and releasing them seems like a no-brainer. Its not like the interest isn't there. But I don't think that shows an entitlement mentality toward the band's material, and its nowhere near the people who seem to have actually become embittered toward the band and its corporate identity because they haven't released a slew of rare and previously unreleased material. I have a life and I certainly don't stew in my own juices, dwelling on how awful it is that something or other hasn't be released. I don't get wound up over things I have no control over.
pittrek · Member since
Did anybody of you ever compare all the existing releases of the official tracks ? I am trying to compile a new BBC compilation from the best available sources
cmi · Member since
pittrek wrote: Did anybody of you ever compare all the existing releases of the official tracks ? I am trying to compile a new BBC compilation from the best available sources
Pittrek, can you share the original 'bad quality' full-lenght (with guitar intro) version of Ogre Battle from Session 3 that you used to create your own mix of this track?
Thank you.
pittrek · Member since
I'm sorry, I don't think I have it anymore :-( I can try to find it but I can't guarantee it
GinjaNinja · Member since
The session 5 tracks certainly sounded better, and some of the vocal lines are now more clearly audible in Nevermore. On the original share some of them sounded like the vocal had been lowered at that point. There is still quite a lot of hiss on Nevermore though.
The BBC Version of SWAFIB sounds FANTASTIC, but it uses different vocals at some points so both should be included.
rhyeking · Member since
So, there are now two different mixes of the BBC Version of "See What A Fool I've Been"? I agree that if the differences are significant, it's worth distinguishing between the two.
"See What A Fool I've Been (Original BBC Version)" & "See What A Fool I've Been (BBC Version - 2011 Mix)"
Or something to that effect.
Man, I can't wait to get these discs!
Soundfreak · Member since
It seems that "See what a Fool I've been" is also one of those studio recordings turned into a so called "BBC Session". Cause from real BBC-sessions there are usually no multi-tracks existing that allow a remix.
rhyeking · Member since
There would have to be multi-tracks, as the recording sessions weren't as straightforward as "go in, play the song, record it, finished." There are multiple guitar tracks and multiple vocals, which must have been put down on a 24 track tape. They wouldn't do the harmony overdubs straight onto the master, for example.
I think, back when The Beatles did their BBC sessions, it probably was a case of play a few takes, then call it done, but doubt that happened with Queen. The songs are still a bit more complicated than that. And in the early days, they were still trying to put their best foot forward to the public, as this was publicity for them, so they'd take care to make the finished product as good as they could achieve, having one day to record a few songs each time.
Not having heard the Deluxe Edition tracks, I can't comment on what they sound like, so I can't really comment beyond that. This is just my educated guess.
Wilki Amieva · Member since
Exactly. That's why it's NOT called LIVE at the BBC.
The new remix of See What A Fool I've Been uses some of the 2nd. vocal take unveiled by Brian in his site some years ago.
By the way, the full We Will Rock You is released in THE BEST OF... THE KING BISCUIT FLOWER HOUR CD.
pittrek · Member since
So there ARE new vocals on SWAFIB ? I didn't notice anything strange. I guess I'm getting deaf :-)
