Gregsynth wrote: Funny thing, is that Paul Stanley's voice actually is better now, than when Kiss was in their prime.
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Actually Paul's having vocal issues now and has been for the past few years. I'll guess nodes. The guy just turned 59, too.
IMO Paul's best vocals were from "Hot In The Shade" through "Carnival Of Souls". I noticed a change in his voice after he did "Phantom Of The Opera". 6 shows a week for two long runs (he was asked back to close out the run in Toronto).
BTW, what do you consider to be KISS' prime?
jpf · Member since
Holly2003 wrote: jpf wrote: Holly2003 wrote: jpf wrote: Holly2003 wrote: It must be frustarting for jpf knowing that everyone he meets or talks to is smarter than him, even his neighbours in the trailer park.
It would be a strange world indeed if a minor typo makes me stupid and the homophobic, bigoted, misogynistic, moronic shite that makes up about 99% of jpf's comments somehow makes him "smart". A world of trailer parks and inbreeding probably. Welcome to jpf's world. ----
You're a moron.
You're a moronic cunt.
Sums you up perfectly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That's just what I'd expect an inbred trailer park Kiss fan to say. You never disappoint. ----
You always disappoint. There's absolutely nothing interesting about you. You're a waste of cyberspace.
jpf · Member since
brENsKi wrote: PrimeJiveUSA wrote: jpf...this thread's been my first interaction with you.
You've been totally rude and obnoxious...but what the hell, that's the way a lot of people are on the internet.
I just have one question...are you a Queen fan?
I mean this IS a Queen fan site...and it seems you want to talk about how every other band is better than Queen.
I mean...wtf? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ it's called having an objective opinion. it's refreshing that people can find fault in their favourite stuff...let's face facts...nothing and no-one is perfect...esp Queen....they messed up laods...some stupid and awful songs, gigs in sun city, losing america the way they did, the "falsies" in sth america during "i want to break free", they were far from perfect...gett eh fuck over it
a band can still be your favourite without you being so far up their (collective) arses as to to praise them "farting in a jar" as being full of artistic merit ----
Sums it up nicely.
jpf · Member since
jazzy mercurois wrote: @jpf:
Lennon is God. Paul is a genius. George is one great musician. And Ringo is the best human to ever exist. THE BEST.
On the other hand, your view upon them is a magnificent evidence of mental disease, to say the least. They suck because they don't inspire you to learn how to play an instrument? They're overrated? The Beatles aren't even appreciated for what they have truly done, actually. People often think of them as a simple band with simple songs but the truth is they managed to write very clever songs, truly sophisticated music.
- You say Black Queen wasn't Queen's prime material. What kind of God would allow a creature like you... well, exist? Of course I'm not gonna ask for arguments, I know you're just plain stupid.
- You say Freddie lost his voice over the years... WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!? DUDE, HE HITS A C4 (and higher too) ALMOST ON EVERY SONG FROM THE 80'S!!
You probably work for the Rolling Stone magazine.
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Rolling Stone magazine isn't worth wrapping fish bones in.
I play guitar. I sure wasn't inspired to pick up a guitar due to The Beatles.
Freddie lost vocal range due to smoking, heavy drinking, drugs (cocaine), and
vocal chord nodes. Go watch "Live at Wembley" particularly during the call and
response with the audience. Freddie was never going to be able to sing something
like "You Take My Breathe Away" in the same key and fashion in '86 as he did in the '70s.
Lennon wasn't God, he was a wife beating cunt, a delinquent father, and a drug addict.
BTW, you're an ignorant cunt.
jpf · Member since
GratefulFan wrote: brENsKi wrote:
it's called having an objective opinion. it's refreshing that people can find fault in their favourite stuff =====================================
Uh huh. jpf is refreshing like a tall glass of chipped ice, a bottle of 7-Up, and arsenic.
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Let me buy you one of those drinks.
jpf · Member since
Amazon wrote: brENsKi wrote: "It's called having an objective opinion. it's refreshing that people can find fault in their favourite stuff...let's face facts...nothing and no-one is perfect...esp Queen....they messed up laods...some stupid and awful songs, gigs in sun city, losing america the way they did, the "falsies" in sth america during "i want to break free", they were far from perfect...gett eh fuck over it"
True, but not the way Skip does it.
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You're crying again.
LOL
Matias Merçeauroix · Member since
freddie lost range??
HELLO?????
Show Must Go On = D4 Innuendo = Eb4 Hang in on There = E4 All God's People = F4
jpf · Member since
Sir GH wrote: jpf wrote:
LZ sold more worldwide than Queen.
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Yes, but that doesn't make LZ bigger than Queen in every part of the world. Go to Europe, Japan or South America and ask any random person in the street who is bigger.... most people will say Queen. ----
Worldwide sales put LZ higher than Queen.
Just posting what's available. Couldn't care less how many lps any band sold. The only lp I care about is the one I purchased.
jpf · Member since
Zebonka12 wrote: Why do people keep complaining about Queen playing Sun City? I'll never understand. I'm proud that they did it! \m/
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It wasn't a cool thing for Queen to do at that time.
KISS were asked to play Sun City and they declined.
jpf · Member since
jazzy mercurois wrote: freddie lost range??
HELLO?????
Show Must Go On = D4 Innuendo = Eb4 Hang in on There = E4 All God's People = F4 ---
Show me the clips where he sang those songs live.
The Real Wizard · Member since
jpf wrote:
Freddie was in his vocal prime in the '70s. He lost range due to smoking, drugs (cocaine), heavy drinking and vocal chord nodes.
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Freddie was always consistently strong in the studio. Death On Two Legs, Dead On Time, Staying Power, and The Show Must Go On are all strong performances.
As for live, his peak was 80-82. Oakland 80, Milton Keynes 82.. he never sang like this in the 70s... bar late 79.
The Real Wizard · Member since
jpf wrote:
It wasn't a cool thing for Queen to do at that time.
KISS were asked to play Sun City and they declined.
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Queen didn't make their decision to go to South Africa based on what was or wasn't cool. If being cool was a motivating factor in any of their decision making, they would have called it quits in 1974.
They went to South Africa because they thought it was the right thing to do, and the people they played to would probably agree. Playing a rock concert for mixed audiences during apartheid doesn't make them racist or uncool. They were musicians who wanted to play for a new audience, simple as that. Well, and make money, of course..
rhyeking · Member since
jpf wrote: Zebonka12 wrote: Why do people keep complaining about Queen playing Sun City? I'll never understand. I'm proud that they did it! \m/
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It wasn't a cool thing for Queen to do at that time.
KISS were asked to play Sun City and they declined. *********************************
There was a cultural boycott that Queen disagreed with. They knew the consequences would be a blacklisting by the Musicians Union and the UN, and general criticism, and they had the balls to do it anyway, because they believed it be a positive action towards change.
They stood on stage as a united foursome, in and against a country of tyrannical racism. Their lead singer and front-man was both gay and of East African descent. By performing, they committed an act of cultural subversion toward apartheid, rather than passively 'boycotting' South Africa. They showed sexual and cultural diversity in a positive way, in country where both were serious crimes. They risked themselves and their reputations, and were in very real danger if the government had caught on. It's galling that anyone could criticize them for both their bravery and the conviction of their beliefs.
Gregsynth · Member since
jpf wrote: Gregsynth wrote: Funny thing, is that Paul Stanley's voice actually is better now, than when Kiss was in their prime.
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Actually Paul's having vocal issues now and has been for the past few years. I'll guess nodes. The guy just turned 59, too.
IMO Paul's best vocals were from "Hot In The Shade" through "Carnival Of Souls". I noticed a change in his voice after he did "Phantom Of The Opera". 6 shows a week for two long runs (he was asked back to close out the run in Toronto).
BTW, what do you consider to be KISS' prime? =======
1974-1979 for me.
Gregsynth · Member since
jpf wrote: Gregsynth wrote: jpf wrote: Gregsynth wrote: Plant started losing his voice (well his "high voice") as early as 1973 (improper technique, smoking, drugs, back-to-back shows, etc).
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Basically the same path Freddie followed a few years later.
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He was in his vocal prime, then.
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Freddie was in his vocal prime in the '70s. He lost range due to smoking, drugs (cocaine), heavy drinking and vocal chord nodes. =============
His studio vocals were better as he aged. As for the live stuff, it's 1979-1982 (Crazy Tour-Milton Keynes). He GAINED range as he aged. He's hit C5s-D5s hundreds of times on the 80s albums. And his highest note in full voice is an F5.
