Live at the Marquee Club 1972?

pittrek wrote:

Nadejus mi smozhem pogovorit na etih yazikah, drug :-)

Now we can talk about these languages, friend ? 

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I guess :-)

No, seriously, I'm only guessing on these translations, but it shows how close these Slavic languages are :-)
But I think this is really an off-topic :-)

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You're almost right!  It means "Hope we can talk these languages, friend".

Indeed it's an off-topic.  We can do it at email if you want :-)

Excuse me, please, for that mistake, I've really don't suspected, that it's a fake...

i Have a question... is russian but in "English (or spanish,too) letters" Right???

I can read some (Only a bit) of russian cause i had to read some of the "Russian formalist theory of the language" and i can undertand one of two words (Anyway with the russian letters is much more dificult to read,cause the spanish and russian are both (almost) complety different)
Forgive me for the questions i love the laguages and his forms...

Cheers!

DJGreg wrote: Excuse me, please, for that mistake, I've really don't suspected, that it's a fake...
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Don´t worry... anyway i hope that some day the true recording can be released (Officially or not)

MERQRY wrote: i Have a question... is russian but in "English (or spanish,too) letters" Right???

I can read some (Only a bit) of russian cause i had to read some of the "Russian formalist theory of the language" and i can undertand one of two words (Anyway with the russian letters is much more dificult to read,cause the spanish and russian are both (almost) complety different)
Forgive me for the questions i love the laguages and his forms...

Cheers!

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Yes, it seems to be right in English but I don't have any ideas how is in Spanish.

Of course it's difficult to understand in Russian letters if it's not your native language.  I'm glad you understand two words!  Can you please tell which ones do you understand? 

Feel free to ask my anything about Russian language.

Nice try, but indeed fake. It already starts in the first few seconds: two guitars on KYA.

There is no recording from the Marquee in 1972, why do people still think there is?
Just like there is no studio recording of Hangman out there.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]GT wrote:[/QUOTENAME] There is no recording from the Marquee in 1972, why do people still think there is?
Just like there is no studio recording of Hangman out there. [/QUOTE]

With all due respect, what makes you claim that no studio recording of Hangman is "out there" ?
Also are you 100% sure that there is no Marquee recording ? Because the taper claimed he sold it to QPL in the 90's if I remember correctly

Yup, the Marquee recording is definitely there.

GT wrote: There is no recording from the Marquee in 1972, why do people still think there is?
Just like there is no studio recording of Hangman out there.

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You've probably lit the red touchpaper now Gary!

To say "there is no recording from the Marquee in 1972" is simply a silly statement to make.  Yes, the show may not have been professionally recorded, and yes there may not be a audience bootleg either in the QPL archives or publicly circulated, but there is NO WAY that you, I, Jim Beach, Greg Brooks, Brian May etc..etc... can KNOW that an audience recorded bootleg does not exist.  Yes, after all these years the chances of one surfacing are remote, but then again, what about examples of people finding unknown Beatles recordings on cassette in their lofts 40 years after they were stashed away, (or perhaps even more bizarrely people finding Brian May demos in a skip of all places?!!)  What you mean is that your belief is that no recording of the Marquee 72 exists.

The Hangman demo?  Yes, I will admit that your thought on this is possibly/probably right, and you may be able to categorically state that one doesn't exist in the archives, and that according to old studio track sheets or recording logs it wasn't slated to have ever been recorded.  
However I'm sure in your trawls through the archives Greg has already publicly stated that he is constantly amazed at finding things that aren't catalogued, or that are not supposed to be on the tapes that they are actually on etc... 

In addition, Brian has often shown that whlst his physical collection of memorabilia etc.. is second to none,  his memory and recollection of Queen events and history is very much surpassed by some fans' knowledge - (eg I've seen Brian state that certain songs were never performed live when we know they were, I've heard him say that certain tracks were from a specific album when they were on a different one etc...etc..), so if he swears it wasn't recorded,  I wouldn't be 100% sure.

Bearing all of the above in mind, perhaps you should be willing to reword your statements, certainly with regard to the Marquee, and possibly even a studio Hangman??

Cheers

GT wrote: Just like there is no studio recording of Hangman out there. -----------------
That´s right .... but what about "in there" ? :P

Marquee and Hangman acetate were discussed years ago here on Queenzone - maybe before you, Gary, posted here as a regular? It was when John Stuart brought all his notes and lists to the community.

About Marquee:

"Queen: Unreleased Live, Marquee, London 20th December 1972
Richard Thomson: original mono reel-to-reel. (Earliest known bootleg – but dreadful quality copies).
Christie’s Pop And Guitars Auction, Thursday 6th June 1996. Richard Thomson: Lot 154 sold £2,800. Bought by Queen Productions Ltd – John S. Stuart, Record Collector, 11th June 1996.
Set similar to 10th March 1992, except, Night Comes Down, See What A Fool I’ve Been, Stone Cold Crazy, and Hangman dropped from the set. New material includes Doing Alright, and Ogre Battle.
Great King Rat, Son & Daughter, Jesus, Doing Alright, Ogre Battle, Keep Yourself Alive, Liar, Jailhouse Rock, Bama Lama Lama"

quoted from
http://www.wwry.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=1378&st=40
because parts of the original QueenZone posts by John Stuart got lost but wwry.ru copied from QZ before it got lost

About Hangman acetate:

"Trident One-sided 10" acetates:
Hangman
Rock 'n roll (Jailhouse Rock)
Jesus
Keep Yourself Alive"

Answering the question if the Hangman studio acetate does exist, John S. Stuart answered the following:

"Yes it does - but a copy has NOT been "found" by Greg or QP. These acetates were sold on the open market about 20 years ago.
I think I need to explain here a little about acatete pressings. simply, acetates are "works of reference" recorded on disc, of a night's session in the studio. These tracks may (or may not be) recorded on master tape (EG Many Beatles acetates DO not exist as master recordings - and there is a great Beatles bootleg called - surprisingly enough - "Unreleased Acetates"!).
These discs (depending on how many are cut) are usually retained by the band - or their producers/engineers etc.
I have no idea of how many "Hangman" acetates were cut, but there is a world of difference between "can't be found - and - does not exist".
Remember, I am writing what "I" KNOW about. The exciting thing for me is to find out about what I do NOT know about!"
Quoted from
http://www.queenzone.com/forums/407815/eponymous-queen-or-debut-album-.aspx 

I think John never answered the question if he owns a copy and I would not ask him since it is none of my business but I am sure he has seen one :-)

Although, not all that info is 100% correct. An acetate doesn't indicate whether something is a work in progress or not - it is merely a pre-vinyl pressing, pressed up to see what something sounds like before entering production. The more modern equivalents would be DAT and then CD-R. Mastering houses would often press up acetates so their client could approve the finished master.
The fact that an acetate exists of something confirms that at some point, both the original multitracks tape and then (possibly multiple) stereo mix tapes would have existed - at some point. If this track does exist (this has never been proven in any way) then it is extremely unfourtunate that QP managed to lose multiple tape copies of it.

pittrek wrote:

No, seriously, I'm only guessing on these translations, but it shows how close these Slavic languages are :-)

"Zapis" means "a recording". It's the same in Bulgarian as it is in Russian.

Indeed, Slavic languages ARE very similar. You'd be surprised how similar Bulgarian is to Czech. 

V.