Don't Lose Your Head...Seriously?

Me, I don't care for DLYH - but cool that someone mentioned Electric Dreams.

Well, it isn't bad song. The problem is, it has a bad cut.

Roger definitely wrote worse songs than DLYH... i like it as well...

rhyeking wrote: It's amusing how Queen discussions can devolve into "synths = bad."

I wonder sometimes if classical music enthusiasts get into heated discussions with arguments like, "Yeah, the moment Mozart incorporated chromatic harmony, it all went to shit!" 

(For those who need this explained, I'm comparing the fans, not the artists.)

Synthesizers are not evil contraptions and artists who use them are not uninspired, lazy hacks. It's okay to like the synth. It is not a betrayal of your inner dirty-jeans, weed-smoking hard rocker. There is more to popular music than guitar, drums, bass and piano.
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It's also okay to generally not like music that is dominated by synth.  It is not a betrayal of your inner toddler to recognize that you're entitled to your own opinion, but not everybody else's.

Well I never really liked it, but I can't say I HATE it. I've heard worse songs, even from Queen (Delilah anybody ?)

synth drench shit, no geetars!

Zebonka12 wrote: If it's good synth pop, then it's the best of an utterly terrible lot.
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LOL Zebonka LOL

Not IMHO... :)

Cheers,

Ogre-

"Synthesizers are not evil contraptions and artists who use them are not uninspired, lazy hacks. It's okay to like the synth. It is not a betrayal of your inner dirty-jeans, weed-smoking hard rocker. There is more to popular music than guitar, drums, bass and piano. "

True, but Queen playing those instruments sounded like Queen.  There was no identity to synths, and for the most part, who played them didn't matter in a band like Queen.  The Red Special wouldn't have been the Red Special with John Deacon playing it.  Brain May made that sound from his hands.  A pre-programmed Oberheim or Yamaha synth with sounds that anybody could use would sound like a pre-programmed Oberheim or Yamaha synth with sounds that anybody could use, from Queen to the Human League to Milli Vaniili, and Queen didn't do enough sonically (of course there are exceptions, but it was mostly basic synth pads and fills on synths, no virtuosity) to make it a big deal in their music so it was a bit of a wash.

So would you say those who got into Queen in the 80 and 90s and disregard the 70s stuff as early fumbling are not Queen fans?

I don't hate DLYH because of the dominant use of synths. I mean, ADRRFMD is the same in a sense, and i love that track, i think it's the totally uninspiring lyrics and the overall presentation of the track that I don't like. I would probably place this track as my least favourite tbh.
'Delilah' isn't terrible, i think the only thing wrong with it is the production, it just sounds so out of place.

For the record Master Marathon Runner, no, I wasn't drinking (when i put up the thread anyway) ;-)

It's definitely a song I can enjoy. If it comes on during a shuffle, I don't skip it. To me, DLYH is one of those tracks that Queen did which seems different from the norm. Those pounding drums, the bass line, Brian's guitar, Fred's delivery and Joan Armatrading's bit-part in there, too. I like that it wasn't Queen by numbers which sometimes I feel from some Queen tracks in the 80's.

Even 16 years later after finding it, I don't feel that differently. It's not for everyone, I guess.

In fact, talking about it...I'm remembering a time when I was wanting to cover it in 1999. Dang... memories!

Adam.

If "so would you say those who got into Queen in the 80 and 90s and disregard the 70s stuff as early fumbling are not Queen fans?" is directed to me, not at all dysan.  You like what you like.  I generally dislike songs in ad campaigns, but that cell campaign where the girl group sings IWTBF a cappella reminded me of what a great, great song that is, along with Radio Ga Ga and lots of their 80s stuff that aren't in classic Queen style.  FWIW though, Queen made its musical name from the first album to Jazz.  After that, they made their money and got acclaim but serious music fans without bias would probably not say that the 80s (with or without synths) was the golden age of Queen music.  Synths were part of the change they needed, I love their 70s catalogue and think it's art, the 80s had some good songs, but what kept me as a fan was the change, and that was the only constant in the band history.

GratefulFan wrote: rhyeking wrote: It's amusing how Queen discussions can devolve into "synths = bad."

I wonder sometimes if classical music enthusiasts get into heated discussions with arguments like, "Yeah, the moment Mozart incorporated chromatic harmony, it all went to shit!" 

(For those who need this explained, I'm comparing the fans, not the artists.)

Synthesizers are not evil contraptions and artists who use them are not uninspired, lazy hacks. It's okay to like the synth. It is not a betrayal of your inner dirty-jeans, weed-smoking hard rocker. There is more to popular music than guitar, drums, bass and piano.
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It's also okay to generally not like music that is dominated by synth.  It is not a betrayal of your inner toddler to recognize that you're entitled to your own opinion, but not everybody else's.
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I was being facetious with my point.

For example, I used to think anything computer driven, techno or dance wasn't real music ("There are no real instruments here!"), but eventually learned my view was narrow-minded. My point: Life is more interesting when bands broaden their scope, just as it can be more interesting for the listener as well, if they want it to be.

I've never said another subjective opinion is wrong, I simply present what might be another way of looking at things. Isn't that why we're here?

If they can let Freddie put  "Delilah" on an album complete with embarassing "meows", then DLYH is a masterpiece

The Dude wrote: If they can let Freddie put  "Delilah" on an album complete with embarassing "meows", then DLYH is a masterpiece
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LOL yeah, rock bands should never meow! Not even once! I ***** Delilah.