Just because all these people were close to Freddie doesn't mean they were close to each other. With Freddie gone, why should Mary feel compelled to remain part of their lives. Maybe it was too hard for her emotionally to stay in touch. Maybe she just didn't like them. That doesn't make her a "cunt," nor does discussing Freddie in interviews. The cone of silence was lifted pretty much when Freddie told the press he had AIDS the day before he died. Mary hasn't tried to capitalize on their relationship in any financial way, she hasn't a written a book or toured the media doing "tell all" interviews, unlike the very people she's accused of cutting out of her life. Maybe *that's* why she doesn't communicate with them, because of their attempts to make money on Freddie's life and death. Mary's kept a low profile all through Queen's existence, why should she change it now?
Micrówave · Member since
I heard that Freddie dated Brian May, but always called him "Mary". So they had to find a good cover story so no one would know.
It just got outta hand.
The Real Wizard · Member since
rhyeking wrote:
So everyone in Freddie's life has to get along?
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Yes, of course! Otherwise the person who kept the lowest profile is a cunt. See how that works?
GratefulFan · Member since
I remain baffled at the apparent need to elevate Mary to something like sainthood at the expense of the others in Fred's life. She seems to be a lovely, gentle person who enjoyed a unique, loyal and inspirational friendship with somebody we all admire. Why the need to leap beyond that and assign her all these extra character traits and motivations we really can know nothing about? She was hardly always reticent and her spread in OK! magazine (a slightly trashier version of People Magazine as far as I can tell) in 2000 was as gratuitous as any interview I've seen from anybody else in Fred's life. Maybe she didn't write a book because she's shy by nature, or maybe she was just busy raising a family, or maybe she didn't have to consider making an investment in time to flesh out Freddie as a complex and substantial human being because two other people did it for her.
As I said before, I do understand the gut reaction and the books certainly can be criticized, but nobody has yet made any case beyond the fact that we're just supposed to be appalled on principle because somebody cut somebody a cheque. Books of any nature should be judged first on whether they make a positive contribution. If they do, that somebody was compensated for their time and insight is not that important in the grand scheme of things. They presumably wouldn't be different books if they were written for free. Just because you or I can't imagine choosing an undertaking like that from our own limited perspective (and I can't really imagine it), doesn't mean we know everything we need to know to make a fair judgement. As I've pointed out what feels like a dozen times, they're largely sentimental fluff. It's not like anybody wrote Mommie Dearest. Time to cut those guys a break I think. And time to rethink the canonization of Mary while were at it.
lifetimefanofqueen · Member since
brENsKi wrote: lifetimefanofqueen wrote:
my girlfriend and i are in a state of shock as we hate mary austin because i just got to the bit in mercury and me where mary turned into a cunt, (my gf has mercury and me too but im beating her at reading it! HA!) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ firstly, you eblieve every embitetred load of old bollox you read in books? secondly, when did Mary turn into a cunt? cos Freddie is likely to leave EVERYTHING to a cunt isn't he? cos that's the oNE thing that struck me abotu Freddie...gullible fool!!!!
========================== kicking jim, jo and phoebe out of garden lodge then making them take back gifts they gave to freddie IS being a cunt so yes
P.S calm down i did fuck all to u mate
lifetimefanofqueen · Member since
cb5000 wrote: doubtfully. i think shes been with freddie since the late 60's. dont take my word for it though. p.s is the website this one http://www.whosdatedwho.com/tpx_4379/brian-may/
====================== it didnt load properly cus my laptop is a being a duck but yeah it sounds like the same name
lifetimefanofqueen · Member since
jpf wrote:
Mary's a cunt in the way she treated Peter, Joe, and Jim, and ultimately Freddie. Peter, Joe, and Jim were Freddie's family and Mary couldn't get rid of them fast enough.
my girlfriend and i are in a state of shock as we hate mary austin because i just got to the bit in mercury and me where mary turned into a cunt, (my gf has mercury and me too but im beating her at reading it! HA!) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ firstly, you eblieve every embitetred load of old bollox you read in books? secondly, when did Mary turn into a cunt? cos Freddie is likely to leave EVERYTHING to a cunt isn't he? cos that's the oNE thing that struck me abotu Freddie...gullible fool!!!!
========================== kicking jim, jo and phoebe out of garden lodge then making them take back gifts they gave to freddie IS being a cunt so yes
P.S calm down i did fuck all to u mate ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
don't tell me to calm down. if you write stuff that is rubbish then you should accept some criticism. Mary was not a c*nt. you are reading a book that is full of bile from interviews and quotes from a few sad old c*nts who couldn't stand the fact that Feddie left it all to Mary. If Freddie had told her.."make sure they always have a home" she'd have honoured it.
the key thing in all of this is that those sad old c*nts show so much respect for Freddie that they'll sell out any private stories and personal info for a couple of thousand quid a time to newpapers and book writers...
Mary, on the other hand has kept a dginified silence...the only stuff she has ever said is stuff that was already widespread public knowledge..... when you add it all up....ONLY Mary had truly respected freddie's memory
the rest of em? c*nts....and money-grubbing-c8nts at that too!!!
The Real Wizard · Member since
^ what he said. That's about as close to accurate as we'll ever get.
GratefulFan · Member since
More like as close to cruel, paranoid and delusional as we'll ever get. I'm boring myself with this topic at this point, so I've got nothing more to add, except way to rot some teenager's mind guys. Really nice.
john bodega · Member since
BRIAN: Don't worry Freddie, you'll get over Mary ....
.... I did!
brENsKi · Member since
GratefulFan wrote: More like as close to cruel, paranoid and delusional as we'll ever get. I'm boring myself with this topic at this point, so I've got nothing more to add, except way to rot some teenager's mind guys. Really nice. ++++++++++++++++++++++++
so - in essence - you posted to say you were bored with the thread? way to go!!!!!....if i'm bored with some i usually find something else more interesting to discuss...
as for rotting her mind.....i would say that the book has done that all by itself. what do i base this on? read her comments: "i just got to the bit in mercury and me where mary turned into a cunt, (my gf has mercury and me too but im beating her at reading it! HA!) " anyone who can make this comment and expect kind responses is delusional. there's so much wrong with the statement : 1. is there a prize for who finishes first? 2. it's hardly fucking "war and peace" - there's not much of a challenge in finishing that "book" in one evening 3. no questioning of the written word - some twat gave an inteview slagging off Mary and she's automatically "a cunt" 4. think for a minute if any of those "sad old c*nts" woulda said a word about Freddie while he was alive? NO. why? because he'd have disowned them...they were all cashing in...after his death...no respect, no love...no nothing...selfish little c*nts...all of em...and liars to boot!!!!
it's clear that everything in the book was taken as read. teenagers are supposed to have inquiring, reasoning minds. once they start accepting everything they're told/read the world is fucked for good.
for lifetimefanofqueen i would say one thing: don't come back and attack me for the above. you made the initial vacuous comments. defend your comments with logic and reason and i'll retract, otherwise, just accept that believeing what you read is not always the best perspective to have. The old saying "never judge a book by its cover" is perhaps never more apt than when you see a book jacket called "Mercury and Me"
The Real Wizard · Member since
Good post.
I simply take solace from the fact that the process of natural selection has always existed, so I'm not worried in the least.
When I was 14, I didn't think overly critically. It comes gradually. That said, when I was 14 I didn't have forums to just write down the first thing that came to mind. All we had was pen and paper, so we had to think first before writing. We were taught to formulate a thought before expressing it.
Computers are eroding away that ability from the lower 50% of the population. Again ... the process of natural selection. Those who can figure it out, will. If anything, from what I've seen, today's kids are getting smarter overall.
brENsKi · Member since
i love that "natural selection" comment...wonder which heads it will sail over at 30,000 ft ?