I also like this song.
Nice lyrics with cool soundeffects, like the "slamming door". The drums are also great.
ITSM
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Back2TheLight
I dunno...I always thought this song was pretty cool...with the new remaster, it brings out alot more in terms of sonic quality than the HR version I was used to. No hate from me about this song!
AlbaNo1
If there is a negative to Loser in The End its that it doesnt really fit the sound and running order of the album Queen II.
ITSM
Yes, I see your point.
It stands out from the album feeling - the same for White Man on A Day at the Races, I think.
These two songs has really grown on me, and now they are great!
It stands out from the album feeling - the same for White Man on A Day at the Races, I think.
These two songs has really grown on me, and now they are great!
brENsKi
AlbaNo1 wrote: If there is a negative to Loser in The End its that it doesnt really fit the sound and running order of the album Queen II.
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wow. i disagree. it fits no worse than that pointless dirge "some day one day"
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wow. i disagree. it fits no worse than that pointless dirge "some day one day"
Holly2003
brENsKi wrote: AlbaNo1 wrote: If there is a negative to Loser in The End its that it doesnt really fit the sound and running order of the album Queen II.
wow. i disagree. it fits no worse than that pointless dirge "some day one day" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it sounds like a hippie anthem of the late 1960s, but at least the lyrics fit with the rest of the album (queen, fairies, orgres etc) whereas Loser in the End is more like a teenage rebellion song by The Who.
ps the guitar on Some Day makes up for the soppy lyrics.
wow. i disagree. it fits no worse than that pointless dirge "some day one day" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it sounds like a hippie anthem of the late 1960s, but at least the lyrics fit with the rest of the album (queen, fairies, orgres etc) whereas Loser in the End is more like a teenage rebellion song by The Who.
ps the guitar on Some Day makes up for the soppy lyrics.
brENsKi
where's the "hippies fairies and ogres" in "Funny How Love Is" "Nevermore" and "Father to Son"
and "White Queen" isn't about any of the above either...it's a song about someone Brian knew
and "White Queen" isn't about any of the above either...it's a song about someone Brian knew
MERQRY
Holly2003 wrote: brENsKi wrote: AlbaNo1 wrote: If there is a negative to Loser in The End its that it doesnt really fit the sound and running order of the album Queen II.
wow. i disagree. it fits no worse than that pointless dirge "some day one day" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it sounds like a hippie anthem of the late 1960s, but at least the lyrics fit with the rest of the album (queen, fairies, orgres etc) whereas Loser in the End is more like a teenage rebellion song by The Who.
ps the guitar on Some Day makes up for the soppy lyrics.
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Mmmm we could say The loser in the end is about a teenage goblin who wants to break free of his fairy mother and... Voilá! the song now fits with Queen II !
wow. i disagree. it fits no worse than that pointless dirge "some day one day" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it sounds like a hippie anthem of the late 1960s, but at least the lyrics fit with the rest of the album (queen, fairies, orgres etc) whereas Loser in the End is more like a teenage rebellion song by The Who.
ps the guitar on Some Day makes up for the soppy lyrics.
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Mmmm we could say The loser in the end is about a teenage goblin who wants to break free of his fairy mother and... Voilá! the song now fits with Queen II !
MERQRY
brENsKi wrote: where's the "hippies fairies and ogres" in "Funny How Love Is" "Nevermore" and "Father to Son"
and "White Queen" isn't about any of the above either...it's a song about someone Brian knew
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About Funny how love is... i always wonder the same untill a friend said me that she tried to imagine a chorus of fairys and elfs singing the song... ha ha in some cases it works
and "White Queen" isn't about any of the above either...it's a song about someone Brian knew
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About Funny how love is... i always wonder the same untill a friend said me that she tried to imagine a chorus of fairys and elfs singing the song... ha ha in some cases it works
Holly2003
brENsKi wrote: where's the "hippies fairies and ogres" in "Funny How Love Is" "Nevermore" and "Father to Son"
and "White Queen" isn't about any of the above either...it's a song about someone Brian knew
queens, fairies and ogres, not hippies. fer phuck sake.
Like, Loser, Funny How Love Is doesn't fit either. Queen II is nearly a concept/themed album, except for those 2 songs.
and "White Queen" isn't about any of the above either...it's a song about someone Brian knew
queens, fairies and ogres, not hippies. fer phuck sake.
Like, Loser, Funny How Love Is doesn't fit either. Queen II is nearly a concept/themed album, except for those 2 songs.
brENsKi
sorry, but NO II is not a concept album. side black is almost a concept - but that's only really because of the segue of
Fairy Fella/Nevermore/Balck Queen...the rest of it NO
as for side white...you need to explain what concept or thread...you named THREE things....and way i see it
Father to Son - real life, maybe set middle ages
White Queen - about someone Brian knew in 1968(ish)
Someday One Day - hippie shit
Losr in the End - about growing up and leaving home
Nevermore - a flowery song about broken love
Funny How LOve Is - a little bit of a nod towards the Lurex single
so i dont see a concept or a them
Fairy Fella/Nevermore/Balck Queen...the rest of it NO
as for side white...you need to explain what concept or thread...you named THREE things....and way i see it
Father to Son - real life, maybe set middle ages
White Queen - about someone Brian knew in 1968(ish)
Someday One Day - hippie shit
Losr in the End - about growing up and leaving home
Nevermore - a flowery song about broken love
Funny How LOve Is - a little bit of a nod towards the Lurex single
so i dont see a concept or a them
Holly2003
brENsKi wrote: sorry, but NO II is not a concept album. side black is almost a concept - but that's only really because of the segue of
Fairy Fella/Nevermore/Balck Queen...the rest of it NO
as for side white...you need to explain what concept or thread...you named THREE things....and way i see it
Father to Son - real life, maybe set middle ages
White Queen - about someone Brian knew in 1968(ish)
Someday One Day - hippie shit
Losr in the End - about growing up and leaving home
Nevermore - a flowery song about broken love
Funny How LOve Is - a little bit of a nod towards the Lurex single
so i dont see a concept or a them
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White Queen is the moon.
Fairy Fella/Nevermore/Balck Queen...the rest of it NO
as for side white...you need to explain what concept or thread...you named THREE things....and way i see it
Father to Son - real life, maybe set middle ages
White Queen - about someone Brian knew in 1968(ish)
Someday One Day - hippie shit
Losr in the End - about growing up and leaving home
Nevermore - a flowery song about broken love
Funny How LOve Is - a little bit of a nod towards the Lurex single
so i dont see a concept or a them
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White Queen is the moon.
brENsKi
you sure about that?
i will bow to your knowledge...but i felt sure i read an interview that said it was about a blind girl he knew
anyone confirm one way or the other?
all i had to go on was this old queenzone post from 2004: (and i would accept John Stuart's word) he was compiling the ultimate queen list at that time, and has probably forgotten more than i'll ever know
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John S Stuart
Deity: 3896 posts Posted: 24 Oct 04, 21:59
As before. Please feel free to contribute. Very little remains from "Queen II". Followed so quickly behind the heels of the debut album "Queen", that the two sessions were almost cut back to back. For this reason their is a distinct lack of out-takes or alternative material. So much so Brian May had to recycle
an old 1968 home demo of "White Queen", (a song about a blind girl Brian had met). It was always Freddie's intention to end "Queen" and begin "Queen II" with "Seven Seas Of Rhye, but this time, he "lost the vote". Album was divided into two sides Side White and Side Black (representing the duality and co-existence between good and evil). Brian & Roger shared the credits for wiriting side white, While Freddie Mercury was sole responsibility for writing side black.
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full link:
http://www.queenzone.com/forums/410097/1974-ultimate-collection-part-one-queen-ii.aspx
i will bow to your knowledge...but i felt sure i read an interview that said it was about a blind girl he knew
anyone confirm one way or the other?
all i had to go on was this old queenzone post from 2004: (and i would accept John Stuart's word) he was compiling the ultimate queen list at that time, and has probably forgotten more than i'll ever know
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John S Stuart
Deity: 3896 posts Posted: 24 Oct 04, 21:59
As before. Please feel free to contribute. Very little remains from "Queen II". Followed so quickly behind the heels of the debut album "Queen", that the two sessions were almost cut back to back. For this reason their is a distinct lack of out-takes or alternative material. So much so Brian May had to recycle
an old 1968 home demo of "White Queen", (a song about a blind girl Brian had met). It was always Freddie's intention to end "Queen" and begin "Queen II" with "Seven Seas Of Rhye, but this time, he "lost the vote". Album was divided into two sides Side White and Side Black (representing the duality and co-existence between good and evil). Brian & Roger shared the credits for wiriting side white, While Freddie Mercury was sole responsibility for writing side black.
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full link:
http://www.queenzone.com/forums/410097/1974-ultimate-collection-part-one-queen-ii.aspx
AlbaNo1
brENsKi wrote: sorry, but NO II is not a concept album. side black is almost a concept - but that's only really because of the segue of
Fairy Fella/Nevermore/Balck Queen...the rest of it NO
as for side white...you need to explain what concept or thread...you named THREE things....and way i see it
Father to Son - real life, maybe set middle ages
White Queen - about someone Brian knew in 1968(ish)
Someday One Day - hippie shit
Losr in the End - about growing up and leaving home
Nevermore - a flowery song about broken love
Funny How LOve Is - a little bit of a nod towards the Lurex single
so i dont see a concept or a them
The poster said it was nearly a concept album which you are close to conceding in part while at the same time characteristically trying to dismiss the views and perception of others. The sound and quaint , ornate style of lyric, if not the subject matter, are pretty similar on a lot of tracks ,moreso than on other Queen albums. You are picking bones with White Queen as the imagery does fit in with the general fairy tale tone if taken literally . Musically most of the songs are multi-layered. Loser in the End stands in complete contrast to all this. I think the gritty Roger tracks are great on Queen, SHA and ANATO and the contrast with the other styles works on those.
Fairy Fella/Nevermore/Balck Queen...the rest of it NO
as for side white...you need to explain what concept or thread...you named THREE things....and way i see it
Father to Son - real life, maybe set middle ages
White Queen - about someone Brian knew in 1968(ish)
Someday One Day - hippie shit
Losr in the End - about growing up and leaving home
Nevermore - a flowery song about broken love
Funny How LOve Is - a little bit of a nod towards the Lurex single
so i dont see a concept or a them
The poster said it was nearly a concept album which you are close to conceding in part while at the same time characteristically trying to dismiss the views and perception of others. The sound and quaint , ornate style of lyric, if not the subject matter, are pretty similar on a lot of tracks ,moreso than on other Queen albums. You are picking bones with White Queen as the imagery does fit in with the general fairy tale tone if taken literally . Musically most of the songs are multi-layered. Loser in the End stands in complete contrast to all this. I think the gritty Roger tracks are great on Queen, SHA and ANATO and the contrast with the other styles works on those.
Holly2003
Nope, I'm not sure. Someone posted a very insightful interpretation of the lyrics here some time ago, which I happen to agree with. But of course it's possibly wrong. Is John Stuart sure? If there is an interview of Brian saying that, it would be conclusive. Short of that, the song is open to interpretation.