Pink Floyd reissues

Nah... I've been to quite some concerts of different groups and to be honest.. I cannot recall most of them :D
I was listening to The Dark Side of the Moon live (from the box) and thought "gosh I wish I could hear Time live.." and you know.. I once did! Performed by Waters, though I forgot all about it.

RonB wrote: Nah... I've been to quite some concerts of different groups and to be honest.. I cannot recall most of them :D
I was listening to The Dark Side of the Moon live (from the box) and thought "gosh I wish I could hear Time live.." and you know.. I once did! Performed by Waters, though I forgot all about it.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have that same experience listening to Pink Floyd --- instantly forgetable. I often wonder what I;m missing but I guess it's just personal taste. I like strong lead vocalists (I prefer Foo Fighter'sversion of Have A Cigar to PF's, for example.) and I'm not keen on slow spacy guitar -- prefer Tony Iommi to Dave Gilmore. Incidentally I saw Gilmore live at the Mandella Hall QUB when I was about 16 and I almost fell asleep!

bigV wrote:

I've been lurking (and occasionally posting) on a PF forum for a few months now. Oddly enough a lot of PF fans are moaning about "Why Pink Floyd?", saying that it's a rip-off or it's too expensive etc. I wonder if Queen had released their studio albums in the exact same manner, would we be moaning right now?

==============

Absolutely.

The only question is - would it be the same group of people moaning, or a different bunch?

Holly2003 wrote: RonB wrote: Nah... I've been to quite some concerts of different groups and to be honest.. I cannot recall most of them :D
I was listening to The Dark Side of the Moon live (from the box) and thought "gosh I wish I could hear Time live.." and you know.. I once did! Performed by Waters, though I forgot all about it.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have that same experience listening to Pink Floyd --- instantly forgetable. I often wonder what I;m missing but I guess it's just personal taste. I like strong lead vocalists (I prefer Foo Fighter'sversion of Have A Cigar to PF's, for example.) and I'm not keen on slow spacy guitar -- prefer Tony Iommi to Dave Gilmore. Incidentally I saw Gilmore live at the Mandella Hall QUB when I was about 16 and I almost fell asleep!
:D yes their music is not always uplifting or a rush of adrenaline I must say. Their Animals album is very... hmm.. shifted down a few gears, but it's their best. I however cannot enjoy their last two studio albums that much. They're ok, but they're lacking something. Still dont know what.
Same for The Wall.. I do not know what the exitement is all about. 2hrs of the same moaning voice. I much more prefer Tommy by the Who for instance.

Jimmy Dean wrote: Pre-ordered the Dark Side and Wish You Were Here Immersion sets the day they were available to pre-order... The Wall one isn't worth the cash, in my opinion.... especially since I already have the live album... which doesn't need remastering at all.

I considered the Discovery Edition Box - but I honestly cannot listen to more than 50% of their catalogue... I already have the remastered Piper... the only other ones worth getting IMO (to satisfy my musical tastes) are Saucerful, Atom Heart Mother, Meddle, Animals (which should have an Immersion edition) and the Wall.... and maybe Division Bell (lots of great cuts on that one).

Finally - I can't see any Queen releases that would be able to properly pull this off - the only one would be A Night At The Opera... and it would be rehash of what's already available:

Disc 1 - The Album

Disc 2 - Hammersmith Xmas Show (this would be the Gem)... but they'd put bits of Live Killers, The Bowl, Montreal, Wembley, and since they have a whole disc to cover - Paul Rodgers live versions!!!

Disc 3 - Demos (this would be key)... but they'd put single versions, non-segue versions, previously available remixes and instrumental karaoke versions, and maybe even la-creme-de-la-creme brand spankin' new edits!

Disc 4 - Blu-Ray lossless DTS-HD/PCM Lossless 5.1 Mix... but they'd put compressed DTS DVD Version (Wembley 25 justifies this comment)

Disc 5 - DVD of Making of the album - already released with certain 30th anniversary edition copies and standalone...(Classic Albums version)

Disc 6 - A brand spanking new interview CD with Brian and Roger discussing the album...And then we realize that it's just the Audio Commentary on the "Videos" of the Night At The Opera 30th Anniversary DVD....Can't wait for this one! lol

Conclusion: No need for Queen Immersion sets... just give us a bloody Anthology box already!!! Like the Beatles did in 1995/1996.

The Wall is going to have ALL OF THE ORIGINAL DEMOS ROGER WATERS, THE BAND AND DAVID GILMOUR BROUGHT TO THE GROUP ON DISCS 3 AND 4 OF THE IMMERSION WALL BOX (beats the bootleg I have).

Discs 3 and 4 of The Wall Immersion;

Disc 3:
 1) Prelude (Vera Lynn) [The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979] [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]  
 2) Another Brick In The Wall, Pt. 2 (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
 3 )Mother (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
 4) Young Lust (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
 5) Another Brick In The Wall, Pt. 2 (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
 6) Empty Spaces (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]  
 7) Mother (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
 8) Backs To The Wall (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo] 
 9) Don't Leave Me Now (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]10) Goodbye Blue Sky (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
11) Don't Leave Me Now (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
12) Another Brick In The Wall, Pt. 3 (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
13) Goodbye Cruel World (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
14) Hey You (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
15) Is There Anybody Out There? (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
16) Vera (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
17) Bring The Boys Back Home (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
18) The Show Must Go On (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
19) Waiting For The Worms (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
20) Run Like Hell (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
21) The Trial (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]
22) Outside The Wall (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 1] [Excerpts From Roger Waters' Original Demo]23) Prelude (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Roger Original Demo]
24) Another Brick In The Wall, Pt. 1 (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
25) Goodbye Blue Sky (The Wall Work In Progress Pt 1., 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
26) Teacher, Teacher (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
27) Another Brick In The Wall, Pt. 2 (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
28) Empty Spaces (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
29) Young Lust (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
30) Mother (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
31) Don't Leave Me Now (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
32) Sexual Revolution (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo] (Pink Floyd version of a Waters solo tune, this I have to hear)
33) Another Brick In The Wall, Pt. 3 (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
34) Goodbye Cruel World (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
35) In The Flesh? (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 3] [Band Demo]
36) The Thin Ice (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 3] [Band Demo]
37) Another Brick In The Wall, Pt. 1 (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 3] [Band Demo]
38) The Happiest Days Of Our Lives (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 3] [Band Demo]
39) Another Brick In The Wall, Pt. 2 (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 3] [Band Demo]
40) Mother (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 1, 1979) [Programme 3] [Band Demo]

Disc 4:
 1) Is There Anybody Out There? (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 1] [Roger Waters Original Demo]
 2) Vera (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 1] [Roger Waters Original Demo]
 3) Bring The Boys Back Home (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 1] [Roger Waters Original Demo]
 4) Hey You (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 1] [Band Demo]
 5) The Doctor (Comfortably Numb) [The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979] [Programme 1] [Band Demo]
 6) In The Flesh (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 1] [Band Demo]
 7) Run Like Hell (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 1] [Band Demo]
 8) Waiting For The Worms (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 1] [Band Demo]
 9) The Trial (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 1] [Band Demo]
10) The Show Must Go On (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 1] [Band Demo]
11) Outside The Wall (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 1] [Band Demo]
12) The Thin Ice (Reprise) [The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979] [Programme 1] [Band Demo](I may not have heard this,a new one on me)
13) Outside The Wall (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
14) It's Never Too Late (The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979) [Programme 2] [Band Demo]
15) The Doctor (Comfortably Numb) [The Wall Work In Progress Pt. 2, 1979] [Prog

RonB wrote: Nah... I've been to quite some concerts of different groups and to be honest.. I cannot recall most of them :D
I was listening to The Dark Side of the Moon live (from the box) and thought "gosh I wish I could hear Time live.." and you know.. I once did! Performed by Waters, though I forgot all about it.

---------------------------------------

That's why I videotape.

Interesting that "Sexual Revolution" is there. The genesis of both "The Wall" and "The Pros and Cons of Hitch-hiking" happened at almost the same time. The band voted to work on "The Wall" as it seemed a more interesting concept. Good call indeed.

V.

people on streets wrote: I prefer to spend my money on concert tickets instead of buying physical releases. 
Seeing a band perform live is, in my opinion, what music is all about.

Especially box sets. They become very boring after some time. When the Freddie 10 cd box was released I bought it instantly. 
After 5 or 6 listenings and some views in the book, I shoved the thing in a closet and never ever listened or looked at it again.

The new wembley concert: same thing. Watched it twice when it was released. Never looked at it again.

Freddie was correct: pop music is disposable.
I won't go to another concert as long as I live. You would go see Lady Gag Gag, Twitney Sneers and Banana Titty Perry. I pity you!

Having Aspergers induced Sensory Sensitivity Disorder is a nightmare. I used to enjoy concerts but this DEPRESSION (which O-BUMMER HAS WORSENED) and the Sensory Sensitivity led me to retire from going to big events (concerts (I don't need to see anymore and I hate drinking and drugs so clubs are out), sporting events, family gatherings).

The new Dark Side box was WELL WORTH THE CASH. My discs weren't scratched probably because I drove to store to buy it rather than have it shipped and asswipe mailers banging and so forth.

Perhaps it's just me, but does this sound like a certain track from NOTW? (without the dog on vocals of course)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuOB2_u87fo

NOTWMEDDLE wrote: people on streets wrote: I prefer to spend my money on concert tickets instead of buying physical releases. 
Seeing a band perform live is, in my opinion, what music is all about.

Especially box sets. They become very boring after some time. When the Freddie 10 cd box was released I bought it instantly. 
After 5 or 6 listenings and some views in the book, I shoved the thing in a closet and never ever listened or looked at it again.

The new wembley concert: same thing. Watched it twice when it was released. Never looked at it again.

Freddie was correct: pop music is disposable.
I won't go to another concert as long as I live. You would go see Lady Gag Gag, Twitney Sneers and Banana Titty Perry. I pity you!

Having Aspergers induced Sensory Sensitivity Disorder is a nightmare. I used to enjoy concerts but this DEPRESSION (which O-BUMMER HAS WORSENED) and the Sensory Sensitivity led me to retire from going to big events (concerts (I don't need to see anymore and I hate drinking and drugs so clubs are out), sporting events, family gatherings).

The new Dark Side box was WELL WORTH THE CASH. My discs weren't scratched probably because I drove to store to buy it rather than have it shipped and asswipe mailers banging and so forth.
------------------------------------------------------

You sound really frustrated.

NOTWMEDDLE wrote:

Finally - I can't see any Queen releases that would be able to properly pull this off - the only one would be A Night At The Opera... and it would be rehash of what's already available:

Disc 1 - The Album

Disc 2 - Hammersmith Xmas Show (this would be the Gem)... but they'd put bits of Live Killers, The Bowl, Montreal, Wembley, and since they have a whole disc to cover - Paul Rodgers live versions!!!

Disc 3 - Demos (this would be key)... but they'd put single versions, non-segue versions, previously available remixes and instrumental karaoke versions, and maybe even la-creme-de-la-creme brand spankin' new edits!

Disc 4 - Blu-Ray lossless DTS-HD/PCM Lossless 5.1 Mix... but they'd put compressed DTS DVD Version (Wembley 25 justifies this comment)

Disc 5 - DVD of Making of the album - already released with certain 30th anniversary edition copies and standalone...(Classic Albums version)

Disc 6 - A brand spanking new interview CD with Brian and Roger discussing the album...And then we realize that it's just the Audio Commentary on the "Videos" of the Night At The Opera 30th Anniversary DVD....Can't wait for this one! lol

Conclusion: No need for Queen Immersion sets... just give us a bloody Anthology box already!!! Like the Beatles did in 1995/1996.

=================================================================

It would be interesting to have such thing released, you know. But, as I said before, it's a little bit of nonsense *quoting Brian*. Having released everything *over and over again* that has been available for years isn't an interesting case.

But let's look at a few things.

Hammersmith Xmas Show - they've been promising to release it since 2009 (or even earlier, if I'm not wrong). We haven't put our hands on it yet. What a pity. This is the concert I've always wanted to see officially released. Let's now hope they release it in 2015 (40th anniversary of the concert). They could put some great bonus material on it. There are four years left before 2015 yet, so maybe Brian can find someone who filmed the last encore and they'd put it as an extra bonus... hmm. Anyway, I hope it becomes released some day.

Demos - I'm pretty sure they do have some interesting demos from A Night At The Opera sessions in the QP archives. So they could put them in box set.

One more conert - would be good if they could release some interesting 1975 concert on video (another one, yep). For example, Tokyo gig on 1st May.

So here are my thoughts. Wouldn't it be great, really?

Just face it, boxed sets like this will hardly sell, they will be all over usenet and torrent sites within a week of releasing them, so only a few die-hard fans would pull out 50 euro's or more for it. We all know that Queen does not really care for the die-hard fans and have focused on mainstream fans for years, and will continue to do so.

There probably still is interesting stuff out there, but i don't think it will be released, because they will lose money on it.

I got Nirvana's Nevermind deluxe box with 4 cds and 1 dvd yesterday. Great!
Now surely Queen has a bigger following than Nirvana, so why can Nirvana release something like this (the box should even be limited to 'just' 40.000 copies), but Queen can't/won't.... Pity.
Am glad I also started to appreciate other music so I can buy such sets after all, although not by Queen.

Lostman wrote:
One more conert - would be good if they could release some interesting 1975 concert on video (another one, yep). For example, Tokyo gig on 1st May.

================

We don't even know if this is possible.  They have three songs for sure, but judging by what was shown at the Stormtroopers exhibition earlier this year, the rest of the footage certainly may be fragmentary.  Furthermore, it's silent, and we don't know if they even have the audio.  The Tarantura bootleg might actually be the best audio from this show, unless the band made a two-track board recording.

Sir GH wrote: Lostman wrote:
One more conert - would be good if they could release some interesting 1975 concert on video (another one, yep). For example, Tokyo gig on 1st May.

================

We don't even know if this is possible.  They have three songs for sure, but judging by what was shown at the Stormtroopers exhibition earlier this year, the rest of the footage certainly may be fragmentary.  Furthermore, it's silent, and we don't know if they even have the audio.  The Tarantura bootleg might actually be the best audio from this show, unless the band made a two-track board recording.
---------
Anyway the tokio gig (1st may)  is from the SHA tour not from ANATO tour... i think if they release Rainbow 74 some day, the available japan 75 footage would be part of the bonnus disc.
another thing: are you sure all the footage in the exhibition was from the same night? how many times freddie changes his costumes?? for me (is only a suposition of course) they have fragmentary footage from some other nights and at least 6 songs (or even the full gig why not?) filmed in full from 1st may (what a shaky takes ha ha)

The sound is the big problem there... many audience noise ha ha that´s why i think they only could use japan 75 footage as bonus, a propely release of this gig as a main dvd is -almost- impossible