Relationships between Queen memebers/

[QUOTE] [b]Stelios wrote:[/b]

But what i do know about AIDS in those times, is something i read on a book.
"Aids gives space/time for the death itself to live."
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Wow. Powerful.

Has John been mentioned by Roger or Brian on stage during this tour? I assume his picture has been shown during some of the montages, but has he been singled out by name at all?

The complexities of these relationships are accessible to the persons who collaborated with them, like Fred Mandel, Mack or Roy Thomas Baker Wizzard.

And yes, they can be more gentleman with John.
The opinion about John by Roger is not very kind.
And Roger is an ironic person. He said to me they never talked with Robbie Williams. Later, I found an interview and he said yes....so....

Nobody has replied to this post in almost 4 years(sorry if that isn’t allowed) but recently I’ve been reading posts that say Brian and Freddie never got along or weren’t friends and honestly I wouldn’t have known that if it wasn’t for looking at those posts, cause Brian even said Freddie was his friend and even though they got into fights and didn’t always get along they were still were like brothers. And Brian was really affected by Freddie’s death and I’m pretty sure he said it was like losing a family member too? But maybe if Freddie was here he’d be saying something completely different and saying that they aren’t friends and hate each other, plus there’s people here that know them way more than I do so I could be wrong. If Brian and Freddie really weren’t friends Brian really plays it up like they were

Not having been there, I've no way of knowing.

"they were still were like brothers"

Brothers love each other but still fight like cat and dog and certainly don't hang out together...

Obviously they all hated Freddie and got him infected so that they could take control of the band.

Let's be honest here, if I were researching Queen in a professional manner, I would not consider Brian May a reliable source because of his many, many contradictory statements and his completely inconsistent interpretation of the band's past. That is not to say that you can discount what he says offhand, but that information for which a statement by Brian May is the only source is weak and needs further investigation.

I just became a fan closer to the end of last year so I’m not really aware of Brian’s inconsistency, but Roger has also said similar things to be fair. I personally don’t see why they’d lie? I also genuinely think Brian misses Freddie, and sure maybe that kinda makes him lie cause he wants to tell himself “no we were friends! We were close!” But idk, I could just be naive though.

Please note that I did not say he's a liar, but that he's not a reliable source. I don't think Brian deliberately misrepresents the truth most of the time when he says or writes something questionable, I just think he's susceptible to 'colouring in the picture' a bit through nostalgia. A little like how the cliché proud war veteran gradually increases the part he heroically played. It's not uncommon, and something which almost everyone does at some point and to some degree, but it is a thing to take note of. I'm basically just saying that Brian tends to remember things to have been a little nicer than they were, and that he remembers things in such a way that he looks a little better than he might perhaps have done to a disinterested observer at the time.

That’s was I was saying he might just be remembering differently cause he does miss those days and of course misses Freddie, and who knows what Freddie would say I know he did say in an interview in the early 80s that he hates them but then they all got closer towards the end of Freddie’s life so that could’ve all changed.

It reminds me of how Paul talks about The Beatles, he could be remembering things differently as well and I think the director of eight days a week even said Paul told him to show John and Paul as best mates not as enemies

it is our fans that wish to see Queen as four close-knit BFFs but that is unrealistic.. if we look at relationships with our friends, we all have ups and downs even with the closest friends.. let alone with someone we're not that close to.

Queen got along pretty well when you take into consideration mutual their differences in music and lifestyle.. compared to let's say Pink Floyd who never got along and were always at the verge of a clash until they split up, Queen were the best possible friends in the world :)

It is hard to be involved in a band (professionally) over so many years and always agree on the course of the band and what your part of it would be, and still be friends with everyone.. I would say it's impossible.

I remember once John said that got along great musically with Freddie but that he could never imagine Freddie coming to his house for a dinner with his family and vice versa.. so I think they got along great in the band but privately they weren't friends. Roger and Freddie did get along privately which can be seen in various footage. And as it was already stated, Brian/Roger thing was always love/hate, currently being love. During work on MIH, Roger said a lot of not so nice things about Brian, mentioning that he and John had a completely another idea about how the album should sound, and that the Brian in his opinion ruined the album with his final input.

It seems to me that they all respected each other, and stick together with Freddie until his end. Somehow for me that is the most important thing, as regardless of what John, Brian and Roger feel for each other currently, they never talked much rubbish about each other in press and that's something not many bands can say about themselves.

When I first became a fan I did think they were tight knit tbh! But that’s cause the first thing I listened to was No One But You and watched videos of Brian performing it and clearly he got emotional and I figured that they were like brothers cause who would write a song like that for someone who was just a colleagues? Tbh I think it’s the “tight knit” image that got me into Queen so now idk if I wanna believe they were just co workers at best

I may have mentioned this before but an extraordinary thing happened at a Roger Taylor gig which underlines the things said above about Roger and Brian not getting on in the early 90's.

I happened to have connections with the Shepherd's Bush Empire and knew a lot of the staff including the stage manager. When Roger played one of his two '94 gigs there I was told that Brian attended in total secrecy (I think Anita was with him).

Apparently he was ushered into somewhere high up in the upper circle and on no account was anyone to know he was there. Whether he was in disguise or not I don't know.

The stage manager (who thought Queen were a bit of a joke) came into the pub next door (as a lot of the Empire staff did when they had some down time) and knowing I was a fan took great relish in telling me what was going on in 'Brian May's a total nut job' kind of way.

He said that apparently they hated each other and Roger wasn't to know he was there.

Apparently back stage was like a snow storm if you know what I mean.

[QUOTE] [b]splicksplack wrote:[/b]

I may have mentioned this before but an extraordinary thing happened at a Roger Taylor gig which underlines the things said above about Roger and Brian not getting on in the early 90's.

I happened to have connections with the Shepherd's Bush Empire and knew a lot of the staff including the stage manager. When Roger played one of his two '94 gigs there I was told that Brian attended in total secrecy (I think Anita was with him).

Apparently he was ushered into somewhere high up in the upper circle and on no account was anyone to know he was there. Whether he was in disguise or not I don't know.

The stage manager (who thought Queen were a bit of a joke) came into the pub next door (as a lot of the Empire staff did when they had some down time) and knowing I was a fan took great relish in telling me what was going on in 'Brian May's a total nut job' kind of way.

He said that apparently they hated each other and Roger wasn't to know he was there.

Apparently back stage was like a snow storm if you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]

Brian in disguise. That would be funny to see. Stovepipe hat? "Oh look, its Abraham Lincoln!"

I think there definitely was a fall out in that time period but its odd that Brian would attend a show at all if he was seriously angry with RT.