Is anyone else a little skeptical about the new album?

I just sincerely hope that they just don't pay tribute to themselves by putting in clips from old songs. On The Cosmos Rocks, the "We Will Rock You" beat appeared in "Still Burnin'". It was cheezy and it makes me skip to the next track. So please guys, don't do that on the new album. If you are going to go to the tribute to old songs route, tehn just get a Freddie soundalike and go on a neverending nostagia tour. 
I am so excited about this, but I just hope it's done right...and without self-tributes

Of course most people who post here will say they're skeptical. QZ is all about saying how Roger and Brian are screwing things up and sullying their legacy anymore. The real answer is their legacy already is, and no amount of The Cosmos Rocks or Made In Heavens or 5ive collaborations make any cut off of ANATO or any other album any worse.  

As for Zebonka saying he's glad Michael Jackson is dead, well, you get numb to those sort of things when you read such Serious Discussion, right?

3 quick points:

1) The '...just wait and see' argument.
Sure, although my hopes aren't high, I'm not totally passing judgement on it. I haven't heard it yet! But this is completely missing the point! If you read my orginal post, the concerns I have are to do with the PREMISE of the project.

2) This '...Haha, what about Made in Heaven, it's the same thing, isn't it?".
Well, no it isn't. I addressed that in my OP.

3) If you're going to write a post denouncing what I've said, fine. No problem. Not everyone agrees. But please, can you at least read what I've said first.

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[b]TyphoonTip wrote: [/b] 3 quick points:

1) The '...just wait and see' argument.
Sure, although my hopes aren't high, I'm not totally passing judgement on it. I haven't heardit yet! But this is completely missing the point! If you read my orginal post, the concerns I have are to do with the PREMISE of the project.

2) This '...Haha, what about Made in Heaven, it's the same thing, isn't it?".
Well, no it isn't. I addressed that in my OP.

3) If you're going to write a post denouncing what I've said, fine. No problem. Not everyone agrees. But please, can you at least read what I've said first. [/QUOTE]

I did no denouncing... it's just better to.... ah... i'd be eating those words after the COSMOS ROCKS...

i was gonna say it's better to think positive.. haha.. nvm.

But, yes... as for "credibility"... oh well... they'll be glossened up demos. Of course MIH had the 4's blessing. And yes.... it would be lacking a GREAT GREAT voice in the band... JOHN DEACON (his sense of melody IS another voice)

yeah, they were well presented arguments... but I AS A FAN would not strike down a chance of hearing the "true" band... recording something...

Of course people had problems with QPR... oh well... I was one of em... and look what happened.... i missed my chance to see em live. (it would have been an arm and a leg but i really SHOULD HAVE GONE)...

arrgh.

All I am saying is there's no room, not really, for a nuanced discussion here of expressing skepticism/ambivalence whatever it is Brian and Roger are going to put together as a collection of songs, since there's just so many haters.  And to say in the original post you think Made in Heaven is different, fair enough; the dis on "synth pads," whatever that might mean, undercuts the point.  

For what it's worth: I do wonder if Freddie had a sit-down with QP et al and had a track-by-track approval of what would appear on the album(s) after Innuendo. We live in an age, like it or not, where unfinished/demoed recordings can be brought to completion, or an approximation thereof.  Granted, Queen doesn't have a Smile-type album up its sleeve that needs to see the light of day. The chance to see some rough recordings or demos or Michael Jackson duets brought to light with Roger and Brian at the helm seems a completely reasonable thing for members of a rock band to do.

Another thing: John's lack of involvement on things like this doesn't mean it can't be called a Queen project any more than Mike Love not signing off on Smile with Brian Wilson at the helm isn't a Beach Boys album.  Or Pink Floyd reissues after Syd went off the grid.  The argument that John's lack of involvement undercutting legitimacy seems much weaker here to me than touring as Queen +, which I am totally OK with, but understand others who think that.  These are old recordings, ones that John may or may not have laid down tracks for, and to have Brian or Roger produce or make additional recordings on them seems completely what old rock stars do in their golden years.

I'm a little skeptical, but mostly because MIH is such a hodgepodge of scraps of Freddie's vocals and bits and pieces of whatever else they could salvage of his years of vocals. I have to think that they used the best of what they had, and if they were putting shite like Delilah on Innuendo, I cannot imagine there were much more hidden masterpieces left towards the end of Freddie' s life.

As for the comment that maybe there are some more good songs left because all four of them fought to have their best songs on the cds,  I'd imagine that anything worth anything was included on Innuendo, and anything left out was thrown onto MIH. They had to know that Innuendo was the last full cd they'd record together, and given the patchwork quality of MIH, it's obvious to me that if Freddie would have farted in the studio, they would have found a way to fashion that into a song for MIH. Once again, I point to Delilah and that creepy track 13 -- bottoms scraps, if I've ever heard any. If there were hidden gems tucked away, don't you think at some point Brian and Roger would have capitalized on that in the past 20 years?

"The real answer is their legacy already is, and no amount of The Cosmos Rocks or Made In Heavens or 5ive collaborations make any cut off of ANATO or any other album any worse"

Must've posted something like this a dozen times when the Q+PR thing first kicked off, but no one listened.  It probably has something to do with the section of the Queen fanbase that is in denial over some certain immutable facts.  They want Queen to be current and viable, but they don't want them to be different, which is what they inevitably must be.

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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b] I'm a lot skeptical, if any MJ stuff is going to be on it.  Couldn't give two fucks about him and I'm glad he's dead.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say I'm *glad* he's dead, but I don't miss him, nor would I regret never hearing a Michael Jackson song ever again. I agree that any Freddie + MJ stuff will make the album less appealing rather than more appealing to me.

I don't care whats on it. As long as it isn't another re-remaster of known stuff..

Just keep an open mind and don't be distracted by possible reasoning behind certain choices.
(meaning; releasing one of the MJ tracks is commercially very smart and one might be tempted to say 'they do this for the money')

I used to be against the idea of a MIH II because I also thought they used the best things for MIH, but word is they have found a lot of things. There certainly is more than the demos weve heard and QPL are obviously not going to play the best on a convention.

For one, I am excited to hear these songs. They were probably left off (as another member said) because they didn't fit that albums flow or would have been more than the usual from one of the members.

As for the nasty INCORRECT comments about Michael Jackson, can we at least keep the false info to ourselves? Anyone who thinks he did it is kidding themselves and he did release a hell of a lot of great songs over time.

(Here is my proof he didn't do it):

1- He was a bit weird, I'll give you that, but he loved kids and didn't like to see them suffer. He had no childhood of his own and lived through making theirs happy and spending time with them.

2- People took advantage that he was a bit weird and had money and spent time with kids. I like kids, drive a school bus and get along with them. No one sues me, but then again I'm poor...

3- The first one recanted after he died and the second one lost in court. Proof enough for me.

Lets stick to the music please!

"Anyone who thinks he did it is kidding themselves"

Interesting that you chose to use the word 'kidding' ...  is that what he called it?  Ha-ha.

Why can't you just wait until it's released before you cast judgement?

This topic is rather moot.

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[b]The Flash Danny Project wrote: [/b] Why can't you just wait until it's released before you cast judgement?

This topic is rather moot. [/QUOTE]

Well of course we have to discuss these things beforehand. As we all know Roger, Brian and all of QP religiously read this forum and guide their actions by the consensus that is formed by the posters here.