Is anyone else a little skeptical about the new album?
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john bodega · Member since
How can skepticism ever be a moot point? It's just a mindset; and after TCR, I think it's a justifiable one.
Daniel Nester · Member since
Awww, The Cosmos Rocks was a fun vanity project, really no more than that. What they should have done is GIVE IT AWAY so people would actually know those songs on tour. And they should have put the "Runaway" cover on the release. Because that really rocks.
john bodega · Member since
I didn't like it as much as the Wilburys version, but it should've been on there.
malicedoom · Member since
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[b]Daniel Nester wrote: [/b] And they should have put the "Runaway" cover on the release. Because that really rocks.[/QUOTE] Amen to THAT.
QueenFan76 · Member since
Its good and rocks but three 60 something men shouldn't try those high notes! OUCH!
matt z · Member since
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[b]QueenFan76 wrote: [/b] For one, I am excited to hear these songs. They were probably left off (as another member said) because they didn't fit that albums flow or would have been more than the usual from oneof the members.
As for the nasty INCORRECT comments about Michael Jackson, can we at least keep the false info to ourselves? Anyone who thinks he did it is kidding themselves and he did release a hell of a lot of great songs over time.
(Here is my proof he didn't do it):
1- He was a bit weird, I'll give you that, but he loved kids and didn't like to see them suffer. He had no childhood of his own and lived through making theirs happy and spending time with them.
2- People took advantage that he was a bit weird and had money and spent time with kids. I like kids, drive a school bus and get along with them. No one sues me, but then again I'm poor...
3- The first one recanted after he died and the second one lost in court. Proof enough for me.
Lets stick to the music please! [/QUOTE]
Yeah, thanks for clarifying. Also that Jordy Chandler kid, his father was going through a divorce/separation at the time, envious of Michael's celebrity and ALSO of the fact that Michael didn't want him to be a part of a joint film company venture "LOST BOYS" LLC or whatever it may be called.
Sony + MJ put up $40million to start the venture. As the father EVAN CHANDLER was an aspiring screenwriter (his sole film credit is a co-writer on the crappy Mel Brooks film ROBIN HOOD: MEN IN TIGHTS) he felt he could (like so many others) wean off some of the glitter from the most known man in the WORLD.
There's much to the story. Even a reference to where he'd met that asshole is in the film (a horse with a placard on it's ass that says RENT-A-WRECK)
Evan Chandler also reportedly suffered from delusions, and had threatened ON TAPE that if he didn't get what he wanted the outcome would be "nasty", Michael would "never sell another record again". Pure extortion. The guy didn't consult police, or beat the living crap out of Michael, despite having had many opportunities to. The guy also committed suicide sometime in late 2009: the same year Michael died.
It'd been suspected that as a practicing dentist, he'd given his son Sodium Amythal in order to plant false memories into his kid. Many reasons behind this: FIRSTLY : MONEY, SECOND: Custody... even if he didn't want his kid, just to take him away from the mother.
The guy also [b]beat his son with a brick behind the head in 2003 or 2005, [i]presumably because he was going to testify on behalf of THE DEFENSE (Michael Jackson) [/i]during the last trial in which some scheming woman wanted to extort him (with the same lawyer, etc). [/b]
[b] The kid (Jordy Chandler) went to court and got "emancipated" from his father.. probably fearing his life. (brick to the head = Intending death) [/b]
People who rag on the man never bothered to look behind the tabloid veil. Go read something from his collaborator David Nordahl (the artist behind MJ's DANGEROUS album cover... which itself lends deeper meanings)
I don't wanna get on the milk crate here, but the guy gets ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIT for being a resolute human being with strength and sacrifice with his time and fortune. Sure he was waaaay different, that's naturally expected for someone reared completely as a Jehovah's Witness, who idolized his mother and adored her, who was also performing since age 5 and up at Strip Joints, Titty Bars, Night clubs etc. The guy had some emotional damage.
For what it's worth, there's a slim possibility he was gay, after all he hung out with and admired Freddie...until Freddie realized he was far too "down to earth" (including a menagerie of animals...having a humble bed etc) to be a party guy.
But even that's in doubt. The guy obviously FAKED his voice in adulthood. It was part of his public persona. No singer matches the growl and spite of Michael on the last of his recordings. It was his art, it became poisoned and angered, but he was on his way back... it's a pity he didn't get the chance.
...anyways, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE RECORDINGS...
Anything with the Red Special is just that much better... It's like Frank's Red Hot Sauce... it makes everything better.
Squidgy · Member since
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[b]matt z wrote: [/b] [QUOTE][/QUOTE]
[b]QueenFan76 wrote: [/b]For one, I am excited to hear these songs. They were probably left off (as another member said) because they didn't fit that albums flow or would have been more than the usual from oneof the members.
As for the nasty INCORRECT comments about Michael Jackson, can we at least keep the false info to ourselves? Anyone who thinks he did it is kidding themselves and he did release a hell of a lot of great songs over time.
(Here is my proof he didn't do it):
1- He was a bit weird, I'll give you that, but he loved kids and didn't like to see them suffer. He had no childhood of his own and lived through making theirs happy and spending time with them.
2- People took advantage that he was a bit weird and had money and spent time with kids. I like kids, drive a school bus and get along with them. No one sues me, but then again I'm poor...
3- The first one recanted after he died and the second one lost in court. Proof enough for me.
Lets stick to the music please!
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Yeah, thanks for clarifying. Also that Jordy Chandler kid, his father was going through a divorce/separation at the time, envious of Michael's celebrity and ALSO of the fact that Michael didn't want him to be a part of a joint film company venture "LOST BOYS" LLC or whatever it may be called.
Sony + MJ put up $40million to start the venture. As the father EVAN CHANDLER was an aspiring screenwriter (his sole film credit is a co-writer on the crappy Mel Brooks film ROBIN HOOD: MEN IN TIGHTS) he felt he could (like so many others) wean off some of the glitter from the most known man in the WORLD.
There's much to the story. Even a reference to where he'd met that asshole is in the film (a horse with a placard on it's ass that says RENT-A-WRECK)
Evan Chandler also reportedly suffered from delusions, and had threatened ON TAPE that if he didn't get what he wanted the outcome would be "nasty", Michael would "never sell another record again". Pure extortion. The guy didn't consult police, or beat the living crap out of Michael, despite having had many opportunities to. The guy also committed suicide sometime in late 2009: the same year Michael died.
It'd been suspected that as a practicing dentist, he'd given his son Sodium Amythal in order to plant false memories into his kid. Many reasons behind this: FIRSTLY : MONEY, SECOND: Custody... even if he didn't want his kid, just to take him away from the mother.
The guy also [b]beat his son with a brick behind the head in 2003 or 2005, [i]presumably because he was going to testify on behalf of THE DEFENSE (Michael Jackson) [/i]during the last trial in which some scheming woman wanted to extort him (with the same lawyer, etc). [/b]
[b]The kid (Jordy Chandler) went to court and got "emancipated" from his father.. probably fearing his life. (brick to the head = Intending death) [/b]
People who rag on the man never bothered to look behind the tabloid veil. Go read something from his collaborator David Nordahl (the artist behind MJ's DANGEROUS album cover... which itself lends deeper meanings)
I don't wanna get on the milk crate here, but the guy gets ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIT for being a resolute human being with strength and sacrifice with his time and fortune. Sure he was waaaay different, that's naturally expected for someone reared completely as a Jehovah's Witness, who idolized his mother and adored her, who was also performing since age 5 and up at Strip Joints, Titty Bars, Night clubs etc. The guy had some emotional damage.
For what it's worth, there's a slim possibility he was gay, after all he hung out with and admired Freddie...until Freddie realized he was far too "down to earth" (including a menagerie of animals...having a humble bed etc) to be a party guy.
But even that's in doubt. The guy obviously FAKED his voice in adulthood. It was part of his public persona. No singer matches the growl and spite of Michael on the last of his recordings. It was his art, it became poisoned and angered, but he was on his way back... it's a pity he didn't get the chance.
...anyways, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE RECORDINGS...
Anything with the Red Special is just that much better... It's like Frank's Red Hot Sauce... it makes everything better.
I wouldn't say i was a fan of MJ but I do like alot of his music, as for him as a person I never jumped to any conclusions. I did find this a very interesting read though. I always thought performing from such a young age and missing out on a childhood must have been difficult for him.
Anyway back to the topic in question, without MIH we wouldn't have had Let MeLive, Mother Love, You Don't Fool Me and A Winter's Tale, all Queen songs I love and listen to on a regular basis. If the new album only gives me one new song with a Freddie vocal I haven't heard before I will be a happy man. Hope you are still rocking them up there Freddie, still miss ya.........
dysan · Member since
I think we can assume John will be on there just by virtue of the fact that the demos they are using will feature him.
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
Skeptical squared.
BTW, just read Daniel Nester's piece on Freddie on I believe therumpus.com, good stuff Daniel, well written.
AlbaNo1 · Member since
Just read that rumpus article and it is pretty interesting. I remember that day well - it was like the day my childhood finally ended. But what is it with the gay obsession in the US. I dont think anyone would even consider liking Queen to be an indication of being gay in the UK.
dowens · Member since
I think people are being way too hard on "Made in Heaven." I think Brian, Roger and John did a fantastic job with what was left to make a cohesive album. It's the perfect ending to the catalog, in my opinion...especially after "Innuendo," a very heavy, dark album. MIH is very uplifting and almost like a celebration. I know this may sound odd, but I had not bought Freddie's "Mr. Bad Guy," so when I heard songs like MIN, IWBTLY, etc. (I became of fan of Queen in 1993 and the only available Mercury album is the remixed "Great Pretender" here in the US) I thought those were Freddie's final recordings! I was pleasantly surprised to discover the original versions later.
I think the guys were only left with a few vocals from Freddie AFTER Innuendo, so to make an album, they had to rework some songs to fit the overall concept. "Made in Heaven," "Heaven for Everyone," "It's a Beautiful Day," everything on that album is incredible. I remember buying the CD and thinking...wow, this is it. After I listen to this, there will never be a new album with Freddie's vocals.
I am VERY EXCITED for a new album. I have always said Roger and Brian should just go on by themselves. They can bring in a vocalist from time to time, but I say rework some demo's, etc. I do wish John would join them in the studio for this album though. I'll take this over another GH compilation any day!
With that being said, I wonder if the Queen versions of unreleased stuff will appear finally? "Love Kills," etc.
theCro · Member since
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[b]dowens wrote: [/b] I think people are being way too hard on "Made in Heaven." I think Brian, Roger and John did a fantastic job with what was left to make a cohesive album. It's the perfect ending tothe catalog, in my opinion...especially after "Innuendo," a very heavy, dark album. MIH is very uplifting and almost like a celebration. I know this may sound odd, but I had not bought Freddie's "Mr. Bad Guy," so when I heard songs like MIN, IWBTLY, etc. (I became of fan of Queen in 1993 and the only available Mercury album is the remixed "Great Pretender" here in the US) I thought those were Freddie's final recordings! I was pleasantly surprised to discover the original versions later.
I think the guys were only left with a few vocals from Freddie AFTER Innuendo, so to make an album, they had to rework some songs to fit the overall concept. "Made in Heaven," "Heaven for Everyone," "It's a Beautiful Day," everything on that album is incredible. I remember buying the CD and thinking...wow, this is it. After I listen to this, there will never be a new album with Freddie's vocals.
I am VERY EXCITED for a new album. I have always said Roger and Brian should just go on by themselves. They can bring in a vocalist from time to time, but I say rework some demo's, etc. I do wish John would join them in the studio for this album though. I'll take this over another GH compilation any day!
With that being said, I wonder if the Queen versions of unreleased stuff will appear finally? "Love Kills," etc. [/QUOTE] i totally agree with you. there's no need to start bashing queen for something you even don't know what's going to look and sound like. months ago i posted topic about how i'd like Queen to rework the demos and release them as in style of Made in Heaven. Well, now my dream is coming true, so the new Queen songs are too :
So looking forward for new Queen album!
Squidgy · Member since
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[b]dowens wrote: [/b] I think people are being way too hard on "Made in Heaven." I think Brian, Roger and John did a fantastic job with what was left to make a cohesivealbum. It's the perfect ending to the catalog, in my opinion...especially after "Innuendo," a very heavy, dark album. MIH is very uplifting and almost like a celebration. I know this may sound odd, but I had not bought Freddie's "Mr. Bad Guy," so when I heard songs like MIN, IWBTLY, etc. (I became of fan of Queen in 1993 and the only available Mercury album is the remixed "Great Pretender" here in the US) I thought those were Freddie's final recordings! I was pleasantly surprised to discover the original versions later.[/QUOTE]
I think the guys were only left with a few vocals from Freddie AFTER Innuendo, so to make an album, they had to rework some songs to fit the overall concept. "Made in Heaven," "Heaven for Everyone," "It's a Beautiful Day," everything on that album is incredible. I remember buying the CD and thinking...wow, this is it. After I listen to this, there will never be a new album with Freddie's vocals.
I am VERY EXCITED for a new album. I have always said Roger and Brian should just go on by themselves. They can bring in a vocalist from time to time, but I say rework some demo's, etc. I do wish John would join them in the studio for this album though. I'll take this over another GH compilation any day!
With that being said, I wonder if the Queen versions of unreleased stuff will appear finally? "Love Kills," etc. I haven't been way too hard on MIH. I have and always will stick up for it as being a decent Queen Album. I would much rather listen to Made In Heaven than Hot Space, The Works or A Kind of Magic......
Brian Maybe · Member since
No new album after all, according to Roger:
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Queen Drummer Roger Taylor Says There Will Be No New Album [url=http://ultimateclassicrock.com/queen-no-new-album/]http://ultimateclassicrock.com/queen-no-new-album/[/url]
john bodega · Member since
He wants to avoid barrel scraping, but he's using those awful fucking MJ tracks? Right, Roger, right ...