A natural, riveting talent explodes onto the world scene
and then this:
Adele announces she will take a 4-5 year break to
Give her love life a shot at success.
?
> sigh<
queenUSA
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The Real Wizard
Looks like she addressed this on her blog:
http://www.adele.tv/home
"I’ve a few days off now, and then it’s the Brit Awards here at home and then I’m straight into the studio. BOYYAHH! 5 years? More like 5 days!"
So it was yet another fabricated media story. Last week it was Adam Lambert fronting Queen, even though he has a new record to push.
http://www.adele.tv/home
"I’ve a few days off now, and then it’s the Brit Awards here at home and then I’m straight into the studio. BOYYAHH! 5 years? More like 5 days!"
So it was yet another fabricated media story. Last week it was Adam Lambert fronting Queen, even though he has a new record to push.
john bodega
"What's this got to do with Ex Black Panthers????"
I was being facetious, but I'm glad someone read that bit.
"Would be curious - for you and others - who do you count among the exceptional voices?"
I'm really never very good at picking out individuals. (When people ask me what my favourite music is, I usually just say 'oh lots of stuff' - not because I don't have favourites, but because the mental process of actually singling them out for mention is just beyond me. Fried circuitry I guess).
I was watching highlights from the Grammys on the news (newsworthy stuff, apparently) and it struck me as all of these assorted songstresses were hitting their high notes, just how ... samey ... it all is. It's no different to the way that young hipster girls sing these days. When you're hearing a vocal discipline for the 80th time this week, then you sort of wish something else would draw you to the music - in this case, songwriting perhaps. I've listened to a couple of her songs and I think she's got talent as a songwriter, but how that translates to more Grammys that one can comfortably carry is a little beyond me.
I don't begrudge her fans (some of my family among them, go figure!). I readily admit that I'm too picky with my music, but honestly ... I hear someone like Adele and I really can't avoid thinking "I want more from music if I am going to be listening to it". And I don't mean that in the 'only listens to old music' sense. Good music is good music; I just don't think there's enough of it being recognised on what is supposed to be the biggest stage out there.
I was being facetious, but I'm glad someone read that bit.
"Would be curious - for you and others - who do you count among the exceptional voices?"
I'm really never very good at picking out individuals. (When people ask me what my favourite music is, I usually just say 'oh lots of stuff' - not because I don't have favourites, but because the mental process of actually singling them out for mention is just beyond me. Fried circuitry I guess).
I was watching highlights from the Grammys on the news (newsworthy stuff, apparently) and it struck me as all of these assorted songstresses were hitting their high notes, just how ... samey ... it all is. It's no different to the way that young hipster girls sing these days. When you're hearing a vocal discipline for the 80th time this week, then you sort of wish something else would draw you to the music - in this case, songwriting perhaps. I've listened to a couple of her songs and I think she's got talent as a songwriter, but how that translates to more Grammys that one can comfortably carry is a little beyond me.
I don't begrudge her fans (some of my family among them, go figure!). I readily admit that I'm too picky with my music, but honestly ... I hear someone like Adele and I really can't avoid thinking "I want more from music if I am going to be listening to it". And I don't mean that in the 'only listens to old music' sense. Good music is good music; I just don't think there's enough of it being recognised on what is supposed to be the biggest stage out there.
john bodega
"Kiss Suck World Tour 1973-2012"
What, they're breaking up after this one?
What, they're breaking up after this one?
Amazon
Zebonka12 wrote: "I'm really never very good at picking out individuals. (When people ask me what my favourite music is, I usually just say 'oh lots of stuff' - not because I don't have favourites, but because the mental process of actually singling them out for mention is just beyond me. Fried circuitry I guess)."
If we're only talking about women, what about artists like Etta James, Patti Smith & Aretha?
If we're only talking about women, what about artists like Etta James, Patti Smith & Aretha?
Mr.Jingles
[QUOTE] [b]queenUSA wrote:[/b]
A natural, riveting talent explodes onto the world scene
and then this:
Adele announces she will take a 4-5 year break to
Give her love life a shot at success.
?
> sigh<[/QUOTE]
I wish that was Taylor Swift's quote.
Why is that girl famous is beyond me. Her songs are sappy, boring, and she's inspired by her break-ups to celebrity boyfriends. LAME!
A natural, riveting talent explodes onto the world scene
and then this:
Adele announces she will take a 4-5 year break to
Give her love life a shot at success.
?
> sigh<[/QUOTE]
I wish that was Taylor Swift's quote.
Why is that girl famous is beyond me. Her songs are sappy, boring, and she's inspired by her break-ups to celebrity boyfriends. LAME!
thomasquinn 32989
[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b] I really can't summon up two shits either way for Adele. It's great to see someone winning awards for something aside from auto-tune set to the demo button on some ex-Black Panther's Yamaha keyboard.But I think it's sad that something like that should be seen as a success for decent music. There once was a time when all of the artists would've been actual decent singers, and that the most recognised one stood a chance of being an exceptional talent. I'm not knocking people who like Adele, but she's a plain singer and one of her big singles is simply 'that 4 chord song' ... AGAIN. I mean, really? Guys?I'm still laughing that there were people watching the Grammys who didn't know who Macca was. Now that's sad.[/QUOTE] Taste is a funny thing. I wouldn't describe her as 'plain' at all. I think she's got a beautiful tone and I've always liked that particular kind of just slightly unpolished contralto. Would be curious - for you and others - who do you count among the exceptional voices?[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to be an insufferable know-it-all, but a contralto would technically be a male voice singing an alto part.
[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b] I really can't summon up two shits either way for Adele. It's great to see someone winning awards for something aside from auto-tune set to the demo button on some ex-Black Panther's Yamaha keyboard.But I think it's sad that something like that should be seen as a success for decent music. There once was a time when all of the artists would've been actual decent singers, and that the most recognised one stood a chance of being an exceptional talent. I'm not knocking people who like Adele, but she's a plain singer and one of her big singles is simply 'that 4 chord song' ... AGAIN. I mean, really? Guys?I'm still laughing that there were people watching the Grammys who didn't know who Macca was. Now that's sad.[/QUOTE] Taste is a funny thing. I wouldn't describe her as 'plain' at all. I think she's got a beautiful tone and I've always liked that particular kind of just slightly unpolished contralto. Would be curious - for you and others - who do you count among the exceptional voices?[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to be an insufferable know-it-all, but a contralto would technically be a male voice singing an alto part.
GratefulFan
Do you not have google at your house to check these unsolicited outbursts of 'wisdom'?
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
I don't mean to be an insufferable know-it-all, but a contralto would technically be a male voice singing an alto part.[/QUOTE]
It can be, but it's also the lowest female singing range.
I don't mean to be an insufferable know-it-all, but a contralto would technically be a male voice singing an alto part.[/QUOTE]
It can be, but it's also the lowest female singing range.
thomasquinn 32989
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
I don't mean to be an insufferable know-it-all, but a contralto would technically be a male voice singing an alto part.[/QUOTE]
It can be, but it's also the lowest female singing range.[/QUOTE]
I see. I just checked out the English wikipedia page on the contralto, and it mentions it as the official name for the alto-part, with the male equivalent of the same range being a counter-tenor. That's surprisingly different from Dutch use, where counter-tenor is only used when speaking, for instance, of a 'comes' part (as opposed to a 'dux' part) in a vocal fugue, so where it is a tenor voice performing a subservient line (rather than the usual leading male part). The word contralto is used in the meaning of the English counter-tenor, and a female contralto is simply called alto (which, ironically, can mean both "high" and "deep" in Latin, meaning it could either be taken as the highest male voice, or the deepest female one).
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
I don't mean to be an insufferable know-it-all, but a contralto would technically be a male voice singing an alto part.[/QUOTE]
It can be, but it's also the lowest female singing range.[/QUOTE]
I see. I just checked out the English wikipedia page on the contralto, and it mentions it as the official name for the alto-part, with the male equivalent of the same range being a counter-tenor. That's surprisingly different from Dutch use, where counter-tenor is only used when speaking, for instance, of a 'comes' part (as opposed to a 'dux' part) in a vocal fugue, so where it is a tenor voice performing a subservient line (rather than the usual leading male part). The word contralto is used in the meaning of the English counter-tenor, and a female contralto is simply called alto (which, ironically, can mean both "high" and "deep" in Latin, meaning it could either be taken as the highest male voice, or the deepest female one).
GratefulFan
^
Given the universality of music I find it rather improbable that the Dutch have a voice classification system that diverges that much from the rest of the world.
A Dutch Wikipedia page seems to bear this out with definitions for the Dutch words 'alt', 'contra-alt' and 'contratenor' that when translated are completely consistent with the English definitions for the words 'alto', 'contralto' and 'countertenor'.
Not being Dutch in anything but lineage, and oly half at that, I'd be glad - though maybe a bit surprised - to be corrected with links to other info.
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zangstem
thomasquinn 32989
GratefulFan:
I'll look it up for you in my old college textbook tomorrow (I don't have it at hand right now), but I'm pretty sure about this.
Don't overestimate the universality of music, btw. You can get into one hell of a fight over what the note B is, depending on which nationality you ask, for instance (in German, B means "B flat", whereas the note we call B is called "H"). Also, sometimes deceptively similar sounding words have come from different musical systems (even though the words can mean the same lexicographically, they are often used differently in French as opposed to Italian music theory).
I'll look it up for you in my old college textbook tomorrow (I don't have it at hand right now), but I'm pretty sure about this.
Don't overestimate the universality of music, btw. You can get into one hell of a fight over what the note B is, depending on which nationality you ask, for instance (in German, B means "B flat", whereas the note we call B is called "H"). Also, sometimes deceptively similar sounding words have come from different musical systems (even though the words can mean the same lexicographically, they are often used differently in French as opposed to Italian music theory).
Donna13
I've got a large heavy dictionary ... originally contralto referred to a male singing part. Then after females were allowed in the choir it became known as a female singing part (I suppose). So the meaning of contralto would depend on the age of the music possibly.
Donna13
... and I guess the intention of the composer and other variables ...
Anyway I learned something by looking it up.
Anyway I learned something by looking it up.
Sergei.
Many die-hard Lady Gaga fans were spitting fire when they realized Mother Monster wasn't going to be winning diddly squat for Born This Way. They can take a seat, because this was Adele's year for being in The Spotlight, and most people never thought for a minute that BTW would win a single Grammy anyway.