Adam Lambert: No talk of U.S. Queen dates

tigrlily wrote:
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However, what AL fans do not realise is that singing apart, he just does not have that charisma, that magnetism that came effortlessly to Freddie.

The hard core fans do find him wildly charismatic though, and have said so in their friendly visits here. It's one of those things that's really hard to comprehend when you can't see it, but still completely subjective nonetheless. Charisma is usually part natural warmth, part genuine or at least believable connection, and part wild disinhibition. Grinding around the stage in guyliner and purple eyeshadow or whatever doesn't really rise to that level for me.

GratefulFan wrote:
Puffed up self righteousness and an apparent dearth of a sense of humour run a similar risk.

Well I'm certainly not going to listen to that nonsense. Look at how you
(meaning you) are behaving? You have difficulty in talking about positive ideas on a large scale - you're happier to sulk and hurl insults. Physician heal thyself.

I dunno. Doing this music justice isn't even down to one's vocal range or whatever.

I've never liked the Darkness, but the last time I heard that guy singing Tie Your Mother Down, I reckoned that he had the right mentality. Only problem was that he sounded like he wasn't trying, and that pisses me off. It pissed me off with Q+PR as well. Why should I care about a band that sounds like it doesn't care?

I haven't seen what you are talking about but if I was trying out Justin Hawkins I would give him something more melodic to sing. Anyway Adam is not really a rock performer. In fact I think Adam would be best on the songs that John Deacon wrote. Or stuff from Hot Space. Ha.

queenUSA wrote:

GratefulFan wrote:
Puffed up self righteousness and an apparent dearth of a sense of humour run a similar risk.

Well I'm certainly not going to listen to that nonsense. Look at how you
(meaning you) are behaving? You have difficulty in talking about positive ideas on a large scale - you're happier to sulk and hurl insults. Physician heal thyself.

Jeez.  You're acting like I broke into your house and drew moustaches on your Kerry Ellis posters or something.

"You have difficulty talking about positive ideas on a large scale."  Great response to the complaint that you and others are taking wild and nonsensical leaps into peoples psychology.  Really.  I wish you had a sense of humour so we could laugh at you together.

Donna13 wrote:  Anyway Adam is not really a rock performer.

Though I know you generally support the idea of this collaboration that's the thing right there isn't it.  Adam is not really a rock performer.  It's funny...I was reading Adam's official forum a few weeks ago and there was a blog there by a superfan and forum participant.  Her writing was sharp and funny and I enjoyed reading it.  She photoshopped some actual cat throw up from her rug onto a screen cap of Adam's horrid sensitive guy sweater from his 'Better Than I Know Myself' video to illustrate their aesthetic and thematic similarity.  LOL  Her whole thrust was that he was allowing himself to be dragged into something that wasn't him to appeal to the vast middle for album sales etc.  Her belief was that he broke through on Idol as a Rock God and that that's what he was, and is, and that all this pop stuff is a mistake.  I couldn't agree with her more - or less.   I agree that the problem is that he is working a genre that he doesn't fit, but the genre that he doesn't fit is rock, not pop.  As a pop performer I think of him like I think of Kerry Ellis- talented performers who are fundamentally Broadway/West End people who have enough edge to make them pop crossovers more credible than some.  Brian once referred to Kerry as a 'Rock Chick'.  Kerry is a wonderfully talented woman but she is not and never will be a rock chick.  Not even close.  Brian clearly thinks of Adam as a rock guy.  Also not even close. I've said it before - I really think part of this is 10 years worth of immersion in that WWRY musical.  That can and will shape tastes and perceptions.

GratefulFan wrote:
I really think part of this is 10 years worth of immersion in that WWRY musical.  That can and will shape tastes and perceptions.

Yep. I bet when Dave Grohl persuaded Brian to play Sleeping on the Sidewalk it was partly out of frustration that Brian has lost his way a bit, that his "gunslinger" attitude has been replaced with "essence of luvvie".

At least Adam doesn't do that leg pumping thing or the quick head shake thing that the other Broadway types do when pretending to be rock stars. Ha. I am imagining it could have been much worse. But Brian and Roger are both very versatile and talented and creative musicians and I think they are bigger than one genre. And Adam also has that versatility. So I think there is great potential there. But I am worried about the one week of rehearsal that the Adam fan was talking about. The whole thing seems risky. But I'm thinking excitement and creativity will help them figure out how best to work with each other to pull this off. If they have a vision for the end result and think they can do it then I say let's assume that they know what they are doing. It will be fun. (Cross your fingers and visualize the best outcome which is that Brian and Roger will be happy about it afterwards.)

GratefulFan wrote:

queenUSA wrote:

GratefulFan wrote:Puffed up self righteousness and an apparent dearth of a sense of humour run a similar risk.

Well I'm certainly not going to listen to that nonsense. Look at how you (meaning you) are behaving? You have difficulty in talking about positive ideas on a large scale - you're happier to sulk and hurl insults. Physician heal thyself.

Jeez.  You're acting like I broke into your house and drew moustaches on your Kerry Ellis posters or something. "You have difficulty talking about positive ideas on a large scale."  Great response to the complaint that you and others are taking wild and nonsensical leaps into peoples psychology.  Really.  I wish you had a sense of humour so we could laugh at you together.

The only thing true about this is the "jeez".

I'm giving up on this thread. Goodbye grateful. Have a good night.

Can't we all just get along and be friends...?! :-P

hauntofroulettedares wrote:
Can't we all just get along and be friends...?! :-P

Nope, not as long as that fuckwit Adam Lambert is involved in Queen.

Donna 13 wrote:

"(Cross your fingers and visualize the best outcome which is that Brian and Roger will be happy about it afterwards.)"


Brian and Roger ARE happy about it. They are getting publicity, which will generate catalogue sales, which will perpetuate the Queen brand. That is all that matters. For anyone with an understanding of what Queen is, and was, having Adam Lambert sing one song is blasphemy. If you don't understand, then no point explaining the blasphemous act.

You guys crack me up. One thing is for sure. No Queen fan will ever forget the name Adam Lambert. LOL!

Yes, just like no one has forgotten the name 'Hitler' either.

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someonewholikesadam
You guys crack me up. One thing is for sure. No Queen fan will ever forget the name Adam Lambert. LOL!


Yes, Just like no one has forgotten the name 'Hitler' either. He massacred the Jews just like AL will massacre the Queen catalogue.