[QUOTE] [b]tcc wrote:[/b] In view of what you have said, are you recommending that the collectors should just keep everything to themselves and not share it at all ?[/QUOTE]
I know you weren't asking me, but they way I see it there are really only two possibilities:
You can either share the material and accept the possibility of it ending to people you didn't want, or you can just keep it all to yourself.
If you also want to take the credit for any subsequent public appearance of the material, you're going to have to release it yourself directly from the orignal tape/acetate before anybody else has the chance to do the same.
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[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
If QPL are after the Sun City material as ghostwithasmile says I find it hard to believe that a fan could possibly outbid them.
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Maybe John S Stuart could cos he's a "millionaire"[/QUOTE]
Well Queen either didn't record the SC shows... or they have it inferior sound... The bootleg release was also noticed by the band...
Of course they have money enough to buy it... the problem is they need to find it... That's QPL reel problem. And as in many cases...once they obtained such material the question is what are they planning to do with it... as in most cases it will shelved and will never see the light of day again...
Not a collector. Just a lifelong fan of Queen. The way I see it is that the Robin Hood-approach of this Fuller guy is a lesser of two evils compared to hoarders of audio they don't own the rights to anyway- those who do not turn it over to the band so they can possibly release it. Firstly, you're a fool for spending hundreds let alone thousands on music, Especially in the digital age. If so and so has a copy of the so-called "Hangman" and the band members do not and they want the audio they are entitled to it.
Now mind you I find most of this leaked material "pretty crappy" anyway. "The Reaction"? My reaction is that is garbage I will never listen to again.
A soundboard show is great. Audience recordings are frustrating. Lossy studio demo or rare tracks by Brian May and Roger Taylor are of no interest to me. Even the half-finished Queen demos I only listened to once. I'm hoping the band finishes some of them.
This Fuller guy may be ethically-challenged but so are the "elitist" collectors who have unheard Queen and/or Freddie material and plan to take it to the grave with them but have the gall to boast about it in an ultimate c*ck tease.
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]The next time someone takes credit for something you did, I'll be there with a camera while you're shaking the guy's hand.
You said music collecting isn't important to the general population. I cited something to refute that. Are you really that daft?
Right. That's normally what happens when a new recording is brought to the community. But here we have nine pages of people claiming that collectors are elitist parasites who do nothing good for anyone except themselves - despite the fact that most of these very naysayers benefit from the work collectors have done. In the light of such baseless vitriol, people are going to speak up to set the record straight.
If I am an "elitist" for stating facts, then I guess I'm an elitist... an elitist who has been part of a movement that has brought music to the eyes and ears of millions of people. Shame on me for that.
What exactly have you contributed to the Queen community again?[/QUOTE]
The bottom line here is that you can either be a trader and accept the possibility of the material ending up to people you didn't want, or you can just keep it all to yourself.
If you also want to take the credit for any public appearance of the material, you're going to have to release it yourself directly from the orignal tape/acetate before anybody else has the chance to do the same.
If you try to be a trader AND the hero who publishes the material, you have to take the chance that someboody gets there before you. Now that it's happened, you can either suck it up and get on with your life, or you moan about it for another nine pages.
My contribution to the Queen community (which has nothing to do with the topic and is only used as a cheap putdown by yourself) is to provide neutral commentary.
"The way I see it is that the Robin Hood-approach of this Fuller guy is a lesser of two evils compared to hoarders of audio they don't own the rights to anyway"
That's more or less how I feel, but with the added caveat that it shouldn't be obtained for the fans through more lying or dishonesty, which is what appears to have taken place here. If it's going to get released, let it be done amicably - dramas like this only make unnecessary trouble for everyone.
[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b] "The way I see it is that the Robin Hood-approach of this Fuller guy is a lesser of two evils compared to hoarders of audio they don't own the rights to anyway"
That's more or less how I feel, but with the added caveat that it shouldn't be obtained for the fans through morelying or dishonesty, which is what appears to have taken place here. If it's going to get released, let it be done amicably - dramas like this only make unnecessary trouble for everyone.[/QUOTE]
+1
Like I've said elsewhere, if we can give the collectors their space and time to get the Fanthology project out the window, it would actually benefit everyone a hell of a lot more than you think as opposed to bitching nonstop.
Wouldn't you want to have the time taken to ensure the highest quality rarities make their way to you rather than rushing out some 3rd generation tape (for example) that later down the line has a 2nd gen upgrade discovered?
