Queen "Elite!".

I think both my record and generosity within the Queen community can speak for itself.
I have never been greedy with any of my material and apart from a few rarities I have kept behind for very special trades - my collection has been freely given - and widely bootlegged.

Almost every article, web-page and bootleg ever released has my fingerprints - somewhere, but I sit quietly, say little and expect even less.
Even those rarities I have reserved - will be released - sometime.

This is a good business strategy. If I decide to keep my iphone 3 for NOW, then give it away freely after I update to an iphone 4 - that does NOT make me " greedy" or a "cunt". It only keeps me one step ahead. You can take away my iPhone 4 with my blessing - but please wait until I get my iPhone 5. After all, it is me who is paying.

It is I who own the Bellboy tape. I have never released the "A" side (yet) because I thought there was a little more millage in it. In the next year or so I would HAVE released it anyway. Ask yourselves - did you even know the A side existed? If so - it was because I told you. Try and find someone (anyone) who had this track before 2012 - and you will draw a blank, because even the bell-boy had no copy.

In face of all this, all I recieve in return are threats, torrents of abuse, PC viruses, and (as can be seen) name-called as elitist, hoarder or "greedy cunt".

Thanks guys.

You really know how to support each other.

You got an iphone 3?

Not now - I gave it away!

At least you didn't have it stolen. ;)

Well said, John.

Don't know what this is all about... but after the contributions you made on the Freddie box, you're one of the best fans this band has.

You have a free pass to do with your collection what you wish. Just continue dangle a carrot every once in a while.

OK, I also have no idea what has been said - but obviously its pretty bad. So to show my ignorance - what is the bellboy tape and what is on the A and B side? I've been a longtime fan although not as up to speed as I used to be - I am now intrigued (wrong spelling - too much wine!)

john you are not answerable to anyone. these people are the real cunts, selfish demanding, clawing ingrates who feel they have a divine right to everything for free - regardless of what it cost someone else...well fuck em
leechers, scroungers and parasites all

one slight slip-up john, you shouldn't have mentioned that you had "bell boy side 1", because this'll become the new "hangman" and these cunts will not let up, and the place will become even less bearable - of that's possible

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
john you are not answerable to anyone. these people are the real cunts, selfish demanding, clawing ingrates who feel they have a divine right to everything for free - regardless of what it cost someone else...well fuck em
leechers, scroungers and parasites all
one slight slip-up john, you shouldn't have mentioned that you had "bell boy side 1", because this'll become the new "hangman" and these cunts will not let up, and the place will become even less bearable - of that's possible[/QUOTE]

Thanks Brenski: The only reason I mentioned this was because it has already leaked on Queenzone. (Please don't expect me to supply a link!).

But my point was - it was leaked under the pretence of;

1: Mine was NOT the only copy - while in reality it is the only copy. Only one genuine version exists. This is not an acetate but a sole cassette.

2: I never, ever, shared this ever - but only once - with someone I thought I could trust - and guess what - within a few weeks it was up here. (you figure).

3 - The uploader claimed he had it years ago (as if it was some pre-copy) YET, a sonic forensic ananlysis revealed that it came from my Mini Disc. This was a great achievement as the bell boy cassette was recorded almost 10 years BEFORE the MD was invented!
Therefore my tape - which I converted to MD - was being touted as the original version!

4: Anyone can forensically see/hear that this share was from mini/disc. (Besides the MD was an edit - and guess what...)

5: The hub, PC, NAS or whatever this was downloaded from has electronic stamping. Everything uploaded and downloaded was recorded electronically. So I know exactly, when, where (ISP) and it was copied. Yet the uploader claims he never took it down - which in the face of this evidence is obviously a lie.

6: After asking for the download to be politely removed, the downloader provided a faked screen-shot to back-date innocence, denied all knowledge, the continued to update on other sites also

Now; don't get me wrong. C'est La vie - and all that. I really don't care about the tape. My life is far bigger and fuller than that, but the betray hurts, and in two or three years after all sharing has stopped, perhaps looking back on today may be seen as some-sort of doomsday - rather than a revolution.

I sympathize with the hardcore collectors. The very few I have ever known of come into contact with have been nice to me but really this has nothing to do with it:

If someone promises not to do something (share X material) and then does it, that is WRONG. this person is failing to their own word and will not be trusted again.

I don't see how someone can be considered a hero or a modern day Robin Hood for doing this. It's stupid, really... breaking a promise for 15 lousy minutes of fame with kids who will only look/hear the material once (twice if it makes it to their iPod playlist) and then forget about it.

It used to mean something... collecting, being a Queen fan.

So now this 17 year old hears a Queen song on American Idol, likes it and 10 minutes later he is listening to Drammen '82 on YouTube... -_- Heesh!

This sucks, for sure... I don't know if I would call this the Queen Armageddon or Queenpocalypse, though... :S

[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]
I think both my record and generosity within the Queen community can speak for itself.
I have never been greedy with any of my material and apart from a few rarities I have kept behind for very special trades - my collection has been freely given - and widely bootlegged.
Almost every article, web-page and bootleg ever released has my fingerprints - somewhere, but I sit quietly, say little and expect even less.
Even those rarities I have reserved - will be released - sometime.
This is a good business strategy. If I decide to keep my iphone 3 for NOW, then give it away freely after I update to an iphone 4 - that does NOT make me " greedy" or a "cunt". It only keeps me one step ahead. You can take away my iPhone 4 with my blessing - but please wait until I get my iPhone 5. After all, it is me who is paying.
It is I who own the Bellboy tape. I have never released the "A" side (yet) because I thought there was a little more millage in it. In the next year or so I would HAVE released it anyway. Ask yourselves - did you even know the A side existed? If so - it was because I told you. Try and find someone (anyone) who had this track before 2012 - and you will draw a blank, because even the bell-boy had no copy.
In face of all this, all I recieve in return are threats, torrents of abuse, PC viruses, and (as can be seen) name-called as elitist, hoarder or "greedy cunt".
Thanks guys.
You really know how to support each other.[/QUOTE]
i'm really thankful for everything you shared.

It was one thing for said uploader to be pushing the envelope when it came to their popular YouTube channel, however nice it was to organize a lot of rarities in one place in addition to some official material. But breaking the trust of a select few for the "benefit" of the many, and now all but guaranteeing that those of us who theoretically WERE to "benefit" are instead going to be fucked over for a LONG time in terms of any "new" rarity uploads...I hope you are proud of yourself, Robin Hood

No one gives a fuck. It's not your fault, it's just the position that you're in.

People who offer band rarities on the internet will never make a real friendship doing so. Look at Dave R Fuller, and then look at yourself. No one actually *likes* the guy, but you can bet that they suck-the-hell up to him in order to keep him doing what he's doing. It's hilarious to watch the little kiss-asses go to work on him as though he recorded the music himself. Just because they want more of it.

Then there's you - you're perceived as a carrot dangler, or whatever, so the people who want something get frustrated and throw regular tantrums about it because they're not getting any.

What you have to accept is that you're basically irrelevant. Even if people were nice to you and gave you full credit for everything you do, it's not because they like you or care about you. They just want their rare shit. There's no point explaining to people who you are or what great work you've done, because really ... they don't care. They care about Queen, and you're just a middleman.

(Unless of course you were in the band or something, in which case I take that back).

I did forget to add that Dave Fuller is a worthless cocksucker.

could sb pls let us know what the "bellboy" is?
jss: nothing but respect for you

ok, did my research...but I would expect sth detailed...