What REALLY happened

I have commented earlier on my thoughts as to the double standards of collectors blindly stating that 'none of their collections contain any stolen material', at the same time as confirming that they own unreleased studio tracks, home demos etc which most likely DID get 'lifted' by someone at some point.

Now, I think that the argument from Fuller is 'yes, I have the elitists version but I also got a version from someone else which is the one I shared'. However, I think JSS has clearly shown (as clearly as is possible anyway without Dave Fuller providing contradictory evidence) that the version of Is It Me? uploaded by Fuller IS the copy he got from the elitists. Fuller seems to have privately said to JSS that he didn't download from the elitists but that doesn't seem to be the case, so he seems to have been caught lying there. Also If he had, then would he make such a mistake as to upload the wrong version to his YouTube site? Probably not.

I DO think that Fuller has been found to be untrustworthy and not capable of sticking to an agreement/understanding, and I can totally see why JSS would be aggrieved at this, whether it were relating to sharing of rare Queen stuff or anything else going against a mutual word. Whilst I don't agree with the 'hoarding' of material, I think that is genuinely the side issue here.

Let me ask this: Prior to the Reactions acetate fiasco, did ANYONE other than myself find it highly suspicious when David recorded a video of himself introducing the "Is It Me? (Original Version)" track??
He'd never done that before for any of his uploads, and personally I thought it suggested a bout of arrogance as well as being cheese at the same time. Who seriously does that on their videos like that?!

That, and there was his curious leak of the TMLWKY writing session which AFAIK was never publicly known to exist prior to his YouTube upload.

And WHY are we still digging up accusations of "stolen tapes"

People, that has NOTHING to do with the main topic, if you lot had felt it was a big issue in itself, it would have beat to start a separate topic about it. Oh well too little too late.

Yes.. Fuller appearing in his own uploads smacks of a massive ego. Quite a repulsive character trait.. Would probably shit on his own mother for a slap on the back.

he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy

(keeping it topical)

I have a solution.

Just leak all the stuff that David brought into the group and say that you got it from me during a handball tournament in Tulsa.

..or better still
leak all the stuff the group gave to david fuller

mission acomplished

"However, when I was accused of theft etc, I felt emotionally passionate enough to defend myself, why has David been so quiet - is it because he has not only been caught with his handing the till, but denied it and try to turn the tables by calling them "greedy c@nts etc... When in realitythe reverse is true."

Actions are louder than words. And that David is acting silent speaks out a lot for his guilt.

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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b] I have a solution.

Just leak all the stuff that David brought into the group and say that you got it from me during a handball tournament in Tulsa.[/QUOTE]
For a moment there I thought you said Tunisia. Sounds better somehow.....

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[b]mooghead wrote: [/b]
Much as I am uncomfortable saying this, I reckon JSS actually comes out of this worse. You may well be sitting on a pile of tape the world would give its right bollock to hear/I may be well off the mark BUT what is the alternative? Take it to the grave with you? Get it all out there.. bring an end to this once and for all.

Or keep it.

No one has lost and no one has won.

No one cares.[/QUOTE]

"Get it all out there .......bring an end to this once and for all" - if this is the motive, I think attacking the group and piling pressure on them to share the collection is not the correct way of doing things.  For those who do it this way, I really wonder how far they get on in the real business world. 

"Or keep it" - if people have something to share and had been attacked like this, it would not be surprising for them to think along this line and it would take a long time for them to rekindle  the sharing spirit and come out from their shell.  I would not blame them for thinking like this.

Jesus Christ, this "discussion" is still ongoing ?

Facts :

1. Dave Fuller was invited to be a part of a group of collectors, who have access to JSS's personal Queen archive.
2. Everybody including DF was asked not to share or trade the stuff without his permission
3. DF downloaded basically everything and started to upload the rare stuff on his youtube channel and later queenzone => he broke his promise
4. JSS gave DF a "second chance", instead of apologizing himself he blamed a different member of the group for leaking stuff

So basically he broke his 2 promises and he is blaming other people for it.

Conclusion for all traders - if you give DF your rare stuff, there is a pretty big chance he will share it online.

Conclusion for everybody else - absolutely nothing.

So why is this thread (and the other threads) full of personal attacks ? Why are suddenly the victims portrait as villains and the person who brakes promises is the hero ? Isn't it time to start a different discussion ?

His remixes are shite.

Share everything or shut the fuck up about it.