I am a logician for a living. Your problem is that you are making the unsubstantiated assumption that David did not have his own track from his download as well as a second one from a trader. Recall I'm not arguing David's innocence, or the relative likelihood of any scenario, just that everybody gets a presumption of innocence and all reasonable scenarios should be considered. My problem is that you don't seem to ever have considered the scenario even to reject it.
Micrówave · Member since
Never mind that.
So ARE you sleeping with David Fuller? And would you be willing to sneak in a Flash Drive next time?
GratefulFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Micrówave wrote:[/b]
Has the "other trader" been identified by David or has that "other trader" come forward to corroborate David's claim?[/QUOTE]
No. But the defendant never has to take the stand. I'm not arguing David's innocence. I'm arguing that this was a lynching and thus something that should be called out.
Micrówave · Member since
David would be the defendant in this case. We're treating Trader X as a hostile witness. The defendant has referenced Trader X to JSS directly and to Queenzone has a whole. He introduced the witness, so that witness CANNOT take the fifth.
Of course, if he were being tried in Canada they would have executed him already.
John S Stuart · Member since
John S Stuart · Member since
oh-ja · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
I am a logician for a living.[/QUOTE]
sure ...
you're just a poor minded advocatus diaboli, nothing more. why don't you stop this? it's simply none of your business. this is neither your forum, nor your facebook-group, nor your acetates.
you (and the other big mouths) should go out and purchase every officially released record, buy tickets and record some concerts (and share them for free), buy some merchandising and so on. not to mention trade some rare stuff ... after that, you discuss several musical items with different but like-minded people and question your own thoughts and opinions.
then come back, approximately in ten years.
Holly2003 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Micrówave wrote:[/b]
Has the "other trader" been identified by David or has that "other trader" come forward to corroborate David's claim?[/QUOTE]
No. But the defendant never has to take the stand. I'm not arguing David's innocence. I'm arguing that this was a lynching and thus something that should be called out.[/QUOTE]
What you are a lawyer as well now?
YV was right - you are like a ghoul at an accident.
You get off on trying to wind me up so I will crucify David in public to satisfy your morbid curiosity?
On second thoughts YV was wrong; you are NOT a ghoul but a sh*tebag who enjoys clouding the issue with psuedo intellectual goobledook.
David Fuller IS a thief, a liar, a bad-trader and an ungrateful coward, and all your psuedo-philosophical reasoning can not save him now.
He will steal for you - he will steal from you.
Now unless David has the balls to face the music himself, I suggest you enjoy his alleged sexual favours, while I refuse to say anything else on the subject.
Deal?
[/QUOTE]
That's a bit rich after the complete load of bollocks you posted about taxes and copyright law -- the stuff that Vocal Harmony went through like a shortcut. And after you bitched and moaned about being called a "c**t". One set of standards for you and one for everyone else I guess. Now let's hear some more of your pathetic "Christ on the Cross" whining about how you've been betrayed. It is the time of the year for after all...
Holly2003 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]oh-ja wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
I am a logician for a living.[/QUOTE]
sure ...
you're just a poor minded advocatus diaboli, nothing more. why don't you stop this? it's simply none of your business. this is neither your forum, nor your facebook-group, nor your acetates.
you (and the other big mouths) should go out and purchase every officially released record, buy tickets and record some concerts (and share them for free), buy some merchandising and so on. not to mention trade some rare stuff ... after that, you discuss several musical items with different but like-minded people and question your own thoughts and opinions.
then come back, approximately in ten years.[/QUOTE]
Better idea. If you don't like stuff being discussed on a forum, piss off to China or North Korea. You guys are more than happy to divulge what you think us mere mortals will swallow, but now the conversation's taken a route you don't like you''re trying desperatley to close down the discussion. Nice try. Piss off.
John S Stuart · Member since
GratefulFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]
What you are a lawyer as well now?
YV was right - you are like a ghoul at an accident.
You get off on trying to wind me up so I will crucify David in public to satisfy your morbid curiosity?
On second thoughts YV was wrong; you are NOT a ghoul but a sh*tebag who enjoys clouding the issue with psuedo intellectual goobledook.
David Fuller IS a thief, a liar, a bad-trader and an ungrateful coward, and all your psuedo-philosophical reasoning can not save him now.
He will steal for you - he will steal from you.
Now unless David has the balls to face the music himself, I suggest you enjoy his alleged sexual favours, while I refuse to say anything else on the subject.
Deal?
[/QUOTE]
What bullshit. Given the chance to answer the simple question implicit in my post above you invoke more backroom voodoo and attack me sexually.
You're really on an even keel with this. Totally objective. Somebody whose judgement we should completely trust.
I have nothing left to say. Anybody who cared to see my point will have seen it long ago. Anybody who is able to see what is going on here doesn't need me to narrate. The rest of you are shockingly entitled to think yourselves above processes every last one of us is guaranteed in any decent society, QZ included. I have no idea what Fuller did or didn't do. Guilty people can be lynched too, and we shouldn't stand for it, ever, because the next person might be innocent. Or you. Fuck all of you who could have been better, should have been better, and still arrived at the same place.
GratefulFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]oh-ja wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
I am a logician for a living.[/QUOTE]
sure ...
you're just a poor minded advocatus diaboli, nothing more. why don't you stop this? it's simply none of your business. this is neither your forum, nor your facebook-group, nor your acetates.
you (and the other big mouths) should go out and purchase every officially released record, buy tickets and record some concerts (and share them for free), buy some merchandising and so on. not to mention trade some rare stuff ... after that, you discuss several musical items with different but like-minded people and question your own thoughts and opinions.
then come back, approximately in ten years.[/QUOTE]
Better idea. If you don't like stuff being discussed on a forum, piss off to China or North Korea. You guys are more than happy to divulge what you think us mere mortals will swallow, but now the conversation's taken a route you don't like you''re trying desperatley to close down the discussion. Nice try. Piss off.[/QUOTE]
And thank god for you. In the middle of a sea of people trying to overwhelm by the force of authority I'm grateful for somebody with a spine and a sense of the completely absurd.
ludwigs · Member since
Eastenders has just come on.....and I thought that was a downer.....
John S Stuart · Member since
mooghead · Member since
"But I find this thread so irritating and infuriating. "
Me too. JSS, I respect you a lot (real mooghead coming out here!), your knowledge and insight far outweighs any of the other 'fans' here who create websites to tell us what we can all hear, and people fawn over them like they are some sort of demi god.
But I am starting to think that opening this can of worms was a mistake. It DOES sound like sour grapes, just as much as DRF released stuff to court popularity - which is a bit pathetic.
Who is the better person and who is worse? I really don't know. Trust has been broken/other people's property is being touted as if it has been created by the person who holds a physical object in their hand.
Much as I am uncomfortable saying this, I reckon JSS actually comes out of this worse. You may well be sitting on a pile of tape the world would give its right bollock to hear/I may be well off the mark BUT what is the alternative? Take it to the grave with you? Get it all out there.. bring an end to this once and for all.
