If "The Miracle" were the final album...

for the love of christ - [apols matt z] but this has been clarified before several times....Brian was the song writer for TMLWKY, but the lyrics were NOT written by him

as regards the album itself:
too much of an "empty, souless 80s sound", too much filler....party, kashoggi, rain must fall, baby does me....it's a middle-ish queen album

Party is a great song!

I didn't like it at first, but once I'd realised how much was going on musically 'behind the scenes', and took on board the seamless changes from pop to dance to rock, and the tongue in cheek ever-so-Queen lyrics, I reappraised my initial view.

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for the love of christ - [apols matt z] but this has been clarified before several times....Brian was the song writer for TMLWKY, but the lyrics were NOT written by him[/QUOTE]

Brian certainly embraces it as autobiographical, and lets others reference it as such without correction. I recall reading a quote from him that was something along the lines of among all the songs he'd written never had he told as much of his own truth as he did in that one. Separately I remember him saying that he wondered if he should write a sequel to it because there was no resolution in the song, but he decided he didn't have to because everybody knew what happened in his life subsequently. Overall, everything I've ever read suggests he had at least a hand in those lyrics. If he didn't, he's certainly disconcertingly comfortable with letting people think he did.

I think someone's trying to make a point here... I wonder what that could be? lol

But yes, I definitely remember him saying - I think in Days Of Our Lives, actually - that it was specifically about the breakup with his wife and affair with Anita Dobson...

"torn between the lover and the love you leave behind"

cannot get any more literal that that... well he could have been more specific by saying "torn between Anita and the wife I've left behind"... but a lawsuit would surely be pending.

Before you got your panties in a bunch, all I was saying was that the album would have reflected MORE finality with the song - had it been included. I know it was written with someone elizabeth lamers and something musker I noticed it as soon as I got MIH...

I KNOW it was a collaboration, which is probably where it got tied up in (royalties) as the vocal had already been completed long before (kinda like "Heaven for Everyone")


Just like people who jump on the phrase "its so hopeless, so hopeless to even try" from "its a beautiful day"

I wasn't misinterpreting the theme of the song like reviewers did on the above; when clearly the song was saying "itS hopeless to even try stopping him from enjoying himself"

That's really it.

In short, I was just saying it would have given more credence to the notion it was about the band coming to a close


Like
'khashoggi's ship' "who said that my body was all over?"


But the theme only appears there and on Was it All Worth It.

What's a yo problem?


Concluding the post intent : had it all ended there, Queen would have been viewed as a band that capsized when they 1980. Without the return to greatness, all the 80's did was have some novelty songs mixed in among the scant INCREDIBLE ones

They wouldn't have been viewed with as much greatness

Wasnt Scandal meant to be about his divorce issues as well?

I recently somewhat mangled a KISS quote from Brian I tried to do from memory so I dug up the paraphrased ones from my last post:

In 2004 on his Soapbox, he said:

I'm very touched that Too Much Love Will Kill You [has been] a catalyst for onward journeys in emotional lives. I always worried that the song didn't give any answers. I was going to write the sequel ... But I guess that the song, in combination with where my life actually went, does give enough clues.

And from an interview here: http://www.brianmay.com/brian/cambridgeunion/cusreportsd.html

Q. What is your favourite song that you've written?

B. Well, I think 'We Will Rock You' will be on my tombstone. I'm proud of 'Too Much Love Will Kill You,' probably because it took most out of me to write, and it's probably the most amount of truth I've ever told in one song.

I have no idea what Brian's lyrical contribution was or wasn't, but those quotes, and others, certainly leave any reasonable reader with the impression that he contributed lyrically or at least wholly took on the song as an intimate expression of his own life experience.

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[b]GratefulFan wrote: [/b] I recently somewhat mangled a KISS quote from Brian I tried to do from memory so I dug up the paraphrased ones from my last post:

In 2004 on his Soapbox, he said:

I'm very touched that Too Much Love Will Kill You [has been] a catalyst for onward journeys in emotional lives. I always worried that the song didn't give any answers. I was going to write the sequel ... But I guess that the song, in combination with where my life actually went, does give enough clues.

And from an interview here:[url=http://www.brianmay.com:80/brian/cambridgeunion/cusreportsd.html] http://www.brianmay.com/brian/cambridgeunion/cusreportsd.html[/url]

Q. What is your favourite song that you've written?

B. Well, I think 'We Will Rock You' will be on my tombstone. I'm proud of 'Too Much Love Will Kill You,' probably because it took most out of me to write, and it's probably the most amount of truth I've ever told in one song.

I have no idea what Brian's lyrical contribution was or wasn't, but those quotes, and others, certainly leave any reasonable reader with the impression that he contributed lyrically or at least wholly took on the song as an intimate expression of his own life experience.[/QUOTE]
GF, have you never listened to [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vfI_YBR4w4]this?[/url]

I can't quite remember how much it reveals about who came up with what from a lyical standpoint but you should certainly check it out if it's new to you.

Without clicking just yet, I'm going to guess that 'this' might be the leaked writing session we got through that act of high treason a few months ago? If so, I only listed to a short bit, deferring it for another day, probably because I'm not much of a fan of the song.  You're right though, I probably should.  And if'this' is not that, but something else, I probably should do that too. :) I think what I'm really trying to say is that Brenski has brought this up in the past, with similar force, whenever somebody raises some point that the song might have been reflective of something or other personal with Brian. I think when somebody takes on the song to the point that Brian has, and represents it as autobiographical in every way, what he did or didn't write becomes a distinction without a difference.  It's a very personal, intimate and literal communication - probably much more so than heaps of the songs he wrote alone.  Anyway, off to see what 'this' is. :)

I have absolutely no idea how a thread about the miracle album ended up being about this song but if anyone cannot see how TMLWKY isnt about the break up of Brians marriage due to falling in love with someone else then they are idiots.

Or just very inexperienced.

If anybody thinks they have a definitive resolution on that double negative let me know. Until then mooghead would like you to know that TMLWKY absolutely is about the inverse of not being about what people propose it's about, but it's not. And that you're probably not not an idiot. :P

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[b]Bohardy wrote: [/b]  GF, have you never listened to [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vfI_YBR4w4]this?[/url]

I can't quite remember how much it reveals about who came up with what from a lyical standpoint but you should certainly check it out if it's new to you.[/QUOTE]

So thanks...did end up listening.  Appreciated the suggestion, the link and the push.  It was very difficult to make out all of it  at work on middling headphones, but it was at least clear that the lyrics were still being worked out, with several suggestions by Brian. So any belief that this came in as a finished product that Brian simply set to music seems at least somewhat misplaced.

:P

[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
In short, I was just saying it would have given more credence to the notion it was about the band coming to a close
Like
'khashoggi's ship' "who said that my body was all over?"
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Pretty sure it's "who said that my party was all over?" It still makes sense with the thought of the band coming to a close, plus it also ties into the previous track.

Also, I agree with you in that I like Rain Must Fall too. brenski can have his own opinions, and that's fine, but I really like the lyrics on that one. Also, I think that Party/Khashoggi's Ship makes a pretty fantastic album opener. Those two songs aren't very deep, but they're just so much fun, and Party has one of my favorite Brian guitar solos.

You know, I heard Khashoggi's Ship today and it does sound like Freddie says "who said that my body was all over" instead of "party". Followed by "I'm in pretty good shape" I could get why it could be confused. Of course, the lyrics state otherwise. But so it does with "fried chicken" in One Vision. Anyways, I digress.

I'm just saying its amazing to think of the difference between "The Miracle" and "Innuendo". And how different it would have been if we never had the latter.