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Even if you thought that, the lyrics are printed in the album artwork like most of Queen's albums.

Its 100% "who said my party is all over" & I've always heard it that way
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Not to be an ass. But yeah, I know its "party" on the album, but from all review of demos, I thought it was "body"


Same goes for the second line tie in.

I don't know where or how ppl got those demos, but they exist out there. Easiest point of reference is youtube. I'm guessing Fred was a little tipsy, cause the lyrics sound absolutely "off the cuff".


Either my confusion lies in that or the line that I THINK I hear in KHASHOGGI'S SHIP "no one loves my body" (repeat) in the demos.

Ah well. Digressing. Anyways, only a few songs focused on something "coming to an end" and the most foretelling was that there would be no tour to come.

Which is probably the reason for the I WANT IT ALL video being a "live" performance
As for "arguing" over the intent: "these are the days of our lives" was a reflective song by Roger; still it suited that theme just fine. Obviously a matter of circumstance no matter how you put it. It was a reflection of "times passed" (no tour/band coming to close/stage in Roger's adulthood/no longer being a "youngster"

The Miracle is a great album, but a mixed bag. Several swipes at the current or past trends in terms of style

Innuendo, wasn't so much; which probably makes it a better reflection of the band and a stronger "swan song"
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For me Miracle is a bit hot and cold too. The hot bits for me are the early songs: Party, Khashoggi's Ship, Miracle and I Want it All and they are red hot. I just love the way the first two tracks rock and the way they fit in as Party leads into Khashoggi's Ship.

I always thought Freddie was saying "party" not "body" and personally I don't think it would have made sense to come out and respond to AIDS rumours like that, although that may be why it might have been changed if he says "body" on the earlier demoes (which I haven't heard).

I find the rest of the album enjoyable, but doesn't reach the heights of their better stuff. I'm not a huge fan of Was It All Worth It. I thought it was a bit like Queen parodying Queen and never completely bought into it the fast bit of synthesised orchestration at the end. I was also becoming less and less enthralled with Freddie's vocal at that point too and there seems to me to be a high note in the song where Freddie's vocal needed to be articifially adjusted afterwards so that he hits the note. Better a lower key that he can make in my opinion.

So I'm glad that Innuendo and Made in Heaven appeared afterwards. For me, there is bearly a weaker track on either of those albums. And I much prefer Freddie's vocal on these albums too. That makes me wonder if somebody knows when Freddie gave up smoking, which presumably he did at some point before he died, as I think the Innuendo vocal was a strong return to form in terms of the texture of Freddie's voice.
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The Miracle is one of three Queen albums i recently got rid of, the worst Queen album imo.[yes, worse than Hot Space and The Game!]
Party and Khashoggi's Ship are pure fillers, and My Baby Does Me, Was It All Worth It, Rain Must Fall, Scandal and The Miracle used make me cringe with embarrassment to be honest.

its not all bad though folks.
The Invisible Man is fantastic and Breakthru is good too, as is one of the extra tracks, Chinese Torture.'
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[QUOTE] [b]purplepiepete wrote:[/b]
The Miracle is one of three Queen albums i recently got rid of, the worst Queen album imo.[yes, worse than Hot Space and The Game!]Party and Khashoggi's Ship are pure fillers, and My Baby Does Me, Was It All Worth It, Rain Must Fall, Scandal and The Miracle used make me cringe with embarrassment to be honest.its not all bad though folks.The Invisible Man is fantastic and Breakthru is good too, as is one of the extra tracks, Chinese Torture.'[/QUOTE]

Scandal is not a bad song in any case.
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Got rid of?

I really like the album, some of the tunes may have dated but so has a lot of music.

For me with Queen albums, even if an album isn't in my top 5 it certainly doesn't mean it's poor.
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yeah i did 'get rid of' the albums. i took them out the back with the rifle and got rid of them just like i did 'old yella' the dog.

when i was a little teeny bopper i bought everything i could on queen. but now i'm an old sod i don't need to do that.

i realized i was keeping some stuff just for the sake of it, not coz i liked it.
why keep crappy queen songs or lps?
so i recorded the tracks i like from the miracle, the game and hot space, then put the albums out of their misery.
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just coz its queen, doesn't make it good.
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[QUOTE] [b]purplepiepete wrote:[/b]
just coz its queen, doesn't make it good.[/QUOTE]
I hate it when people do that, assume that a Queen fan only likes something because it's by Queen. I love Party and KS for what they are: an album opener, and an awesome, energetic one at that. Second, STELIOS is right; no way is Scandal a bad song. I also strongly disagree with bashing The Miracle and WIAWI?. I even like Rain Must Fall; MBDS is the only one that don't really care for.

Also, are you saying that Invisible Man is better than I Want It All? Yeah, I strongly disagree with that, too.

I like all those songs because they're good songs, and though I have some bias toward (ok, a lot) toward Queen, that doesn't mean I can't enjoy them.

Welcome to the world of art, where everything is subjective and when someone is interested in something you cannot possibly form a coherent reason why that holds up in all cases.
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i just believe SOME people love everything a band does just because its put out by that band.
mind you, i was probably a bit like that with queen and slade 35 or 40 years ago myself.

i did like "i want it all" quite a bit when i first heard it, but it sounds very predictable these days.
so yeah, i personally prefer invisible man.

imo i find songs like 'was it all worth it', 'days of our lives' 'show must go on' and even 'we are the champions' to a small degree, a little embarrassing. you know, they all have that 'i did it myyyyyyyy way' feel, don't they?

"yes, i had lots of obstacles in my life, but i still managed to do it my way, and you know what?" "i wouldn't change a thing, coz i'm such a great guy!"
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Its all definitely a matter of taste. I love Party and Khashoggi's Ship whereas Invisible Man is in my opinion a bit of a kids song. And I'm not crazy about Breakthru either. Love all those "I did it my way" songs you mention too.

Its not right or wrong, just differnt as waunakonor says.
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[QUOTE] [b]AlexRocks wrote:[/b]
Because they are all about the last days of Freddie Mercury. And to be more specific as each one happened they felt they were doing their last one. They were a change in tone in terms of subject matter and attitude. Less reclessness and more reflectiveness and far more uplifting in some ways. Dare I say Fred and the gang got far more conservative.[/QUOTE]
i get what you're saying, but the argument doesn't hold up really, because MIH was not really about the last days of Freddie...
let's look at the evidence:
It's a beautiful Day - 1980
Made In Heaven - 1985
Let me Live - 1983
Born to Love You - 1985
heaven for everyone - 1988
beautiful day reprise - 1980

more than half of the tracks pre-date the Miracle and freddie being "unwell"
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I'm not sure the band knew Freddie was ill during the recording of The Miracle anyway.

I always assumed they did, but the way they tease him for not touring on the 89 Radio 1 interview, suggests they're incredibly heartless or were just unaware.
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@Supersonic_Man89 I think this was classic "misdirection". As was a lot of stuff from then on (if not earlier).
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Brian has said that during The Miracle sessions the band had had "the talk," that Freddie was ill. So, they knew, and probably expected the obvious questions about touring.

Innuendo was started only months after The Miracle was finished. In the EPK, I believe Roger says Innuendo started as a continuation of The Miracle, which may be reflected in the unfinished demos like "Self Made Man" and "My Secret Fantasy," whose approach seems to me to be closer to The Miracle sound than that of Innuendo.