THE CO DISCOVERER OF HIV Prof. Luc Montagnier's Extended House of Numbers

So you guys actually read all 9 of those AIDS Fun Facts posts he wrote?

If this guy was an actual Queen fan, he wouldn't be dishonoring Freddie by attempting to change the circumstances in which he died.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: "I believe this person to be, so to speak, not quite sane."

You're probably right. I mean, anyone who could ever subscribe to the the aids denialism movement have, at best, a screw missing.

I should say that I don't necessarily have a problem with conspiracy theorists as a few are probably quite valid, and many, if not most, are harmless. I mean, if someone wants to believe that the moon landing never happened, it's not hurting anyone.

However there are certain things which are so indisputable and so inarguable- and which the attempt to deny them does hurt people- that the very fact that anyone would contest them is probably a sign of their insanity, and in extreme cases a sign of their lack of humanity. The Holocaust is one example. Another is AIDS.

I'm probably sounding quite dramatic, however one of the reasons so many people are dying from AIDS is that they are taught rubbish by people who either don't know what they are talking about (and may have been taught the rubbish by others), or don't care.

Barb, PLEASE ban this crackhead idiot

[QUOTE] [b]Amazon wrote:[/b]
If this guy was an actual Queen fan, he wouldn't be dishonoring Freddie by attempting to change the circumstances in which he died.[/QUOTE]

I cannot change the fact Freddie died in agony but i can try and make sure it does not happen to other people.

I can't resist feeding the trollS

[QUOTE] [b]MEDUSA-RULES wrote:[/b]I cannot change the fact Freddie died in agony but i can try and make sure it does not happen to other people.[/QUOTE]

Okay well we'll miss you, but we appreciate it.

Double post. Whatever QZ! :)

I cannot change the fact Freddie died in agony but i can try and make sure it does not happen to other people.
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So how is posting this here going to stop that?

[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]
Barb, would it go against the rules if we were to ask you to reveal based on the IP address which country Medusa hails from?[/QUOTE]
We set a very dangerous precedent when we want to ban someone because they express an unpopular opinion. Free speech is a cornerstone of civilized society.

Until he trolls people and does this on a daily basis, there is no need to ban him.

Until he trolls people and does this on a daily basis, there is no need to ban him.
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But you must agree his posts of his dream biopic cast should be deleted from threads that have no relevance.

I have no problem with mad ramblings, but spamming the board?

Of course, spam is spam, no matter the subject.

But on the subject of the source of AIDS - it really is something worthy of discussion. The approach in this thread so far isn't exactly inviting, so here is an alternative - a CBC special from 2004:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZs1V8mpcoY

Unlike most conspiracy-oriented stuff, the presentation is most excellent, and leaves much food for thought.

When looking at conspiracy theories, it is *extremely* important to find out where they started. Conspiracy nuts, so critical of every kind of information except their own, never do that. It is so important to know, because conspiracy theories are rarely harmless, those originally propagating them rarely believe in them, and they always serve some ulterior purpose, closely related to the ideology of those who start them. The simple fact of the matter is that, depending on what kind of conspiracy theory it is, they nearly all start in the same place:

Conspiracy theories about the New World Order or other 'all-powerful government' conspiracies like the supposed Obama death-camps are all, or nearly all, started by far-right extremists who know them to be false. They are really the successors to Cold War myths about omnipresent communist conspiracies.

Conspiracy theories about Freemasons and godless/irreligious extremism are nearly all started by ultra-orthodox Catholics.

Conspiracy theories about disease and medicine, such as this topic, tend to stem from the New Age groups (which, incidentally, are extremely popualar among neo-nazis), with support often coming from extremist religious groups who hate medicine because they believe it to be an insult to god, as opposed to lying to people, which is apparently sanctioned.

The only conspiracy theories I know of that are present among all kinds of groups are those regarding UFOs, which probably indicates that it is more of a fashion thing than a true conspiracy theory.

[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
When looking at conspiracy theories, it is *extremely* important to find out where they started. Conspiracy nuts, so critical of every kind of information except their own, never do that. It is so important to know, because conspiracy theories are rarely harmless, those originally propagating them rarely believe in them, and they always serve some ulterior purpose, closely related to the ideology of those who start them. The simple fact of the matter is that, depending on what kind of conspiracy theory it is, they nearly all start in the same place[/QUOTE]
Excellent summation of the mentality.

But labeling every viewpoint that goes against the grain as a conspiracy theory is an equally dangerous precedent. It assumes that every government and every corporation has told the truth about every issue that remains under debate.