The Point of no return & The Great Test Of Queen

This is a very troubling time for me as a Queen fan.
We are witnessing perhaps the most gigantic blunder in Queen's history.
We are, I think about to see the image of Freddie Mercury forever tarnished by the ambitions of a rather obscure, secretive and talentless man as far as real acting ability, who has become famous for creating lunatic characters who are a mockery of both themselves and anyone who gets in their way.
Sacha Baron cohen, a man known for the talent of consumate mockery and outrageousness, could be known forever as the man who showed the world who Freddie Mercury really was.
This is so ironic and so opposed to "protecting the image and legacy of our friend" to Quote Brian May of Queen, that i think i may be dreaming.
It is even more unberlievable, when you consider the miracle of my finding THE MAN who is so startlingly MERCURY, that if he was in the role, audiences all over the world would leave the cinemas literally dazed and confused by just how it was achieved with no CGI.
http://freddiemercurybiopic.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/untitled-1fv.jpg
Jeremy Kapone is Mercury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq2C8op593c
cast of 36 actors

"Et tu, Brute?"

This is no more troubling than anything else that has happened in the past, say, 15 years. I don't honestly see how a film is going to destroy the image of Queen or Freddie Mercury or anything like that. The movie will come out eventually, but all Queen's music will still be there, everything else will be intact, and the earth will keep moving 'round and 'round. Sacha Cohen is not going to single-handedly change any of that. In fact, the movie may turn out to be decent. Many fans had their doubts when Roger was picking members for the Queen Extravaganza, but he must have seen something we didn't because it turned out to be a great show. Those two still know what they're doing at least sone of the time, and although they've made some more questionable choices over the years...well, we're all still here, are we not?

So let's just all hold hands, forget all our doubts and concerns about the future of (what is for many of us) the greatest rock band ever, and go into this together, and as Queen fans. If we make it out alive somehow, we can all marvel at how good the film was or gripe about how bad it was. If we don't make it, well, I'll see you guys in heaven, or wherever I may end up. For the meantime, however, let's just stop our bitching and worry about things that really matter.

So, what's your favorite Queen song?


That was my deep, sentimental philosophy for today. I am tired. Good night, QueenZone.

Relax.

It'll be fine.

Actors get cast against type all the time. It can bring out new and dynamic performances.

Besides, one person doesn't make or break a film. There's the script he works from, the director directing him, the editor cutting together his footage, the other actors he plays off of...

You can't really judge a forthcoming performance based on what an actor did before, especially if it's a different kind of role.

So, yeah, the sky is not falling.

You are absolutely ridiculous.

"This is a very troubling time for me as a Queen fan."

On behalf of us all I offer you our deepest sympathies. Chin up lad, you'll be ok.

Love

I have a list of 103 actor for this movie, here is a sample:

Phil collins as peter gabriel
http://greenobles.com/data_images/phil-collins/phil-collins-06.jpg

Peter Cushing as Freddies dad, Bob
http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsC/4039-4285.gif

peter gabriel As phil collins
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Peter_Gabriel_Allan_Warren.jpg/220px-Peter_Gabriel_Allan_Warren.jpg

David Brighton as Brighton rock
http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/imgs/artists/david_enrico/enrico_david_stick_rock.jpg

Professor John tricyle as Bicycle Race.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/John_Henry_Knight_tricycle_circa_1880.png

billy idol As Jonny rotten
http://www.icons.nu/thumb/billy-idol-lookalike.jpg

Richard Obrien as James Hutton / The dream master
www.bbec.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Richard-OBrien-797x1024.jpg

Navi Jackson as Mary Austin
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Michael+Jackson+Look+Alikes+Photocall+-hcI2RfBIffl.jpg

Bruce li as Roger Taylor
http://i29.tinypic.com/162ac8j.png

Natasha 18 from london as Red Special
http://www.bloggerheads.com/images/sun_page3_april07.jpg

Bob Hoskins as the plumber who fixed Freddies boiler in 1971
http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2011/06/20/bob-hoskins-mario.jpg

Nicholas Lyndhurst as Shaggy
http://img.discountpostersale.com/posters/MVS268241/1/Nicholas-Lyndhurst.jpg

Pablo dogger as Scooby / Dog with a bone
http://newfoundlandpuppiesblog.com/files/newfoundland3.jpg

lou ferrigno as Brian may / Evil Brian may
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-56h4W9ejhH4/TrFcEs4nUsI/AAAAAAAAA1k/v-L2LCqMd_4/s1600/Lou.jpg

Warwick Davis, his wife and kids as coke carrying dwarfs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/entertainment/galleries/media/getty_warwick_420.jpg

Brian may as Brian may's dad, BOBBY / Tom baker
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Brian_May_filming_for_the_BBC%27s_%27The_One_Show%27.jpg/220px-Brian_May_filming_for_the_BBC%27s_%27The_One_Show%27.jpg

And this guy as John Deacon
http://blog.popflys.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Liu-Bolin-blending-in.jpg

[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
This is no more troubling than anything else that has happened in the past, say, 15 years. I don't honestly see how a film is going to destroy the image of Queen or Freddie Mercury or anything like that. The movie will come out eventually, but all Queen's music will still be there, everything else will be intact, and the earth will keep moving 'round and 'round. Sacha Cohen is not going to single-handedly change any of that. In fact, the movie may turn out to be decent. Many fans had their doubts when Roger was picking members for the Queen Extravaganza, but he must have seen something we didn't because it turned out to be a great show. Those two still know what they're doing at least sone of the time, and although they've made some more questionable choices over the years...well, we're all still here, are we not?
So let's just all hold hands, forget all our doubts and concerns about the future of (what is for many of us) the greatest rock band ever, and go into this together, and as Queen fans. If we make it out alive somehow, we can all marvel at how good the film was or gripe about how bad it was. If we don't make it, well, I'll see you guys in heaven, or wherever I may end up. For the meantime, however, let's just stop our bitching and worry about things that really matter.
So, what's your favorite Queen song?
That was my deep, sentimental philosophy for today. I am tired. Good night, QueenZone.[/QUOTE]
This is the one thing that can destroy Freddie's image, it should be obvious why it can, it is cinema , it is a lasting portrayal of Freddie himself.

So, what's your favorite Queen song?
i dont have one

[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]
Relax.
It'll be fine.
Actors get cast against type all the time. It can bring out new and dynamic performances.


[/QUOTE]
lol
the point is he is not an actor
he cannot act!

To begin to portray the extraordinary charisma and humour of Freddie will take a real actors insight into him as a person, only an actor can study this and begin to genuinly recreate it from a real heart and convey it plausably.
The same goes for Freddies unmatched stage perfomance, it will take a real actor with physical stamina and energy
and an insight into the human exuberence guts and gusto and exageration of Freddies core self, to truly replicate such a massive stage presence and the mobility and musical expressiveness of Freddie by the actors body , that becomes Mercury on stage.
only KAPONE can do all this in every facet, in a way that it is complete, convincing, and truly shines with Freddie, in every respect.
It's Challenging the Doors Of Time

AN ACTOR’S INSIGHT OR A BIG NAME?


No, an unknown is essential for the role, that is what you need.


An unknown who can act and essentially be Mercury on screen, which is what i have found and wow can he look like him! , an unknown genuine actor with a script that portrays Freddie properly , both the performer Mercury and the private man Mercury , otherwise you will DESTROY Freddie mercury's image both as a performer and as a man.

Real actors are able to crush (EMPTY) themselves and become a person, Sacha cannot do this, his characters are an extension of his own ego, that is not acting it is performing.
By letting another powerful well known personality (Sacha) take his (Freddie's) place , you destory his (Freddie's) image.

You do not want to have a performer who is based upon themselves (ego), that is a disastrous thing to do to Freddies image. It is like handing him over to somebody wielding a sledge hammer, literally .

The world's perception of the ego based Sacha performance will profoundly stick and the damage to the perception of Freddie will be lasting , he will be forgotten yet thought known,totally distorted,disfigured.

If sacha's performance is anywhere near credible, it will mean this truly disastrous scenario, because for sacha credbility rests entirely on his speciality- his only range of acting skills that have real impact i.e - his Borat style acting, which rests upon him entirely , and has no relationship to anything REAL, be it a fictional reality based character person, or a factually real portrayal of a real person- such as the Freddie Biopic will be .

Note:
Even spiderman and superman are characters based upon real humans with real human reactions and everyday interactions, and reality based emotional responses to real , even if , fictionalised situations.

Borat is not based upon any human reality at all, it is completly performed in a detached reality, that has no bearing on anything remotley real as far as a study of any real human behaviours , reactions, or thought processes.

You have to understand that Sacha has never played anything remotely near human reality based, even for something as fantastical as the human reality based side of superman , so can hardly be expected to play a real human, and that is why when he tries to portray even fictional characters that are characters that are complete with real human reactions and interactions with other characters, he fails miserably.

This is the key reason behind Sacha's inability to act out anything other than his own unreal creations convincingly.

IN SHORT ALL THE ABOVE EXPLAINS WHY SACHA CANNOT ACT AS A REAL PERSON
BECAUSE HE HAS NEVER REALLY TRIED TO ACT AS A REAL PERSON- EVEN IF IT WAS A FICTIONAL REAL PERSON.

And it's too late now to start learning in time for the Freddie Mercury biopic

That is why i think the below outcome is more probable.

But if it turns out like i think it will, the film will be seen as atrociuosly bad and funny where it is not meant to be funny, and the only thing people will be seriously discussing is the question of the end of Sacha's career .
Because they will say , he failed at scripted comedy, and now after attempting a serious dramatic part he has failed yet again.

This is not naysaying or vindictive, it is the rational outcome when you honestly consider the extent of Sacha's talents as an actor- he can either do totally borat rediculous or he fails, and that is that.

He just cannot convince as an actor unless he is in loony land, and speaking it's language.

Whereass A good actor can become Freddie , tell his story and leave Freddie intact.
Kapone is perfect for this as he can really become Freddie in a way other actors cant.

To begin to portray the extraordinary charisma and humour of Freddie will take a real actors insight into him as a person, only an actor can study this and begin to genuinly recreate it from a real heart and convey it plausably.
The same goes for Freddies unmatched stage perfomance, it will take a real actor with physical stamina and energy
and an insight into the human exuberence guts and gusto and exageration of Freddies core self, to truly replicate such a massive stage presence and the mobility and musical expressiveness of Freddie by the actors body , that becomes Mercury on stage.
only KAPONE can do all this in every facet, in a way that it is complete, convincing, and truly shines with Freddie, in every respect.

The only way you can protect Freddie 's image, is by having someone who becomes Freddie to the audience
if you get someone who is trying to be freddie by using their own ego rather than being him by true acting
all his shit will stain Freddies image forever.

You see the trouble i think is, you all like to moan about what Queen does after the fact.
but what you should do is moan before the fact
and give good arguments before it becomes fact.
This takes actual passion, real opinion, and action.

Ryuichi Sakamoto should play John Deacon...he's not only got the serious look but the zen to go with it...

I genuinely believe that if Freddie was here and
was going to have a biopic made about
him while still alive, he would
prefer Kapone over Sacha,
infact i think he would be
shocked anyone would seriously consider sacha.
he would think it was an awful choice and dismiss it out of hand.
Freddie was a very cultured man, aswell as being aware of pop culture etc, he would have known what good acting was, and that a good actor was essential if a movie about him was made, and would know sacha's actng ability was not sufficent.
I MEAN ITS SO OBVIOUS IT IS NOT!
Also he would know the impact on the general public of such a movie and how important it was to get it right. He would also be fully aware of how the strong image of Borat was attached to SBC.
He would prefer Kapone for many reasons,
primarily because he would make Freddie look good, young as he was , and would know he was far more capable of convincingly protraying him than sbc.
i think he would be outraged by cohen taking the role.
Freddie had a sense of humour yes, but he didnt like to be made a fool of or waste his money on crap.
would you?
Just realise , as unvain or vain as Freddie was do you really think he would want a 41 year old to play him at age 25 and up? forget the fact he catnact, that alone would make Freddie shudder.
comon you have got to be joking but
my goodness!!
they are going to go ahead with this insult!
who is going to protect Freddie!
because they have gone insane!
what an outrage!

I'm finding it hard that it is affecting you so much. Maybe you should pop along to a childrens hospital or a MacMillan nursing home and get some more perspective about things that really do matter?

I doubt this potential film will tarnish Fred's reputation? Seemed he became more popular after his death.

[QUOTE] [b]ludwigs wrote:[/b]
I'm finding it hard that it is affecting you so much. Maybe you should pop along to a childrens hospital or a MacMillan nursing home and get some more perspective about things that really do matter?
I doubt this potential film will tarnish Fred's reputation? Seemed he became more popular after his death.[/QUOTE]
such comments are really quite silly.
AND ALSO TRANSPARENT,
because you silly remark exposes the fact you fear the logic of my points, so resort to some kind of irrational argument based on a false humility and false comparisms of the importance that i should be concerned people at this moment are suffering, and go on about something that is totally inapropraite and inaffective and irrelevent as an argument against the points i have made.
i care about queen i care about freddie
i like their music and them
but i am not here to detract from what people are here to do
by telling them they should not be here doing what this forum was designed to do which is allowing them to express there thoughts on queen and freddie,
which is exactly what i am doing.
And my thoughts are only voiced because i feel strongly about them, i dont express what i do not believe in, or havent thought enough about.
i dont know how other peoples minds work, but i actually can only be bothered talking about things i care about.
if you have a problem with that and feel there are more important things to do at this particular moment in time
i suggest you do them.
and the bit about him becoming more popular after death
is quite sick really isnt it.
i am concerned only with what i know to be true
he would prefer a competent and appropraite actor to play him if he was alive or dead.