THOUGHTS ON QUEEN AND ADAM LAMBERT

[QUOTE] [b]tigrlily wrote:[/b]
I watched the show, watched Adam warbling and trilling, and sorry, but I had to just go back to the REAL Queen clips! Wow! What a difference! The Russia show had all the bells and whistles, but what it lacked was a REAL rock star! Freddie Mercury! He made Queen songs come alive with his raw power! And John Deacon who was just perfect on bass. Brain and Roger were a treat to watch, but the Queen sound is just not right with anybody other than the 4 original Queens. Nothing against Adam Lambert, but he is just not a rock singer.[/QUOTE]

I doubt anyone would argue with this. Warbling, trilling, not to mention the expressions on his face and just the way he presents it all. A lack of sincerity and appears very fake and forced to me. I watched as much as I could and like you, I go back to original Queen clips or vids and all is well with the world. I do like QE but the quality of most of the vids isn't good. I think they presented that setlist with brilliance, no, it isnt the four but it was enjoyable. They all seem to enjoy and respect Queen's music and Freddie with their presentation.

Seen the Calgary QE show (and Q+PR in Rotterdam 2008) - and many here are 100% correct. I'd take the female singer in QE over AL's lack of soul... What has become of Queen fan's ears?

I’ve lurked this forum for quite a while but I’ve only just joined today. I’ve been a huge Queen fan since the 70’s. I remember being 14 and thinking Freddie was GOD as I taped BR from late night radio to my black and silver tape recorder. Later I remember watching the Live Aid concert and being absolutely blown away by Freddie’s command of the stage and the crowd. It was awe inspiring. There is no one like him and there never will be anyone like him again. Period.


I’m also a huge fan of Adam Lambert. I love his voice, hearing it live is like nothing I've experienced. I love his humor, I love that he’s a self-admitted dork with a shopping addiction. I love his generosity, I love his style, I love how articulate and self-assured he is. He’s pretty damn nice to look at too. He’s also one of a kind and a very special person in his own right, not that many of you will ever know it.. and really, that’s ok. To each their own.


But what made me come out of lurkdom was reading all the negative and conflicting posts about Adam, his vocals, his performances, his style…his everything.


It’s either (and I’m paraphrasing):
He doesn’t move around enough on stage.. he looks scared.
or
He’s upstaging Brian and Roger, he needs to tone it down.


He doesn’t seem to have enough confidence.
or
He’s too cocky


He’ll never be Freddie… then proceed to criticize him for all the ways he’s different from Freddie or doesn’t sing the songs the way Freddie did.


No one can fill Freddie’s shoes, There is no Queen without Freddie
And then..
They need to do a tour with a singer who sounds just like Freddie. (and slightly resembles him.. that’s a trip)


The list goes on but the bottom line is that Adam jsut cannot win with many of the hardcore Queen fans and maybe that’s the way it should be. In my mind, no one can fill Adam’s shoes and I’d be PISSED if someone I saw as a random, unknown kid went on tour singing Adam’s music. I’d be picking every little thing apart from the costumes to notes hit or not hit. I admit it. That’s part of being a serious fan.


And even though I think Adam is doing an amazing job (and getting even better with every show) I’m not one of his fans who thinks he should be singing rock music. He’s a pop singer. He has a bit of a rock edge when he’s doing his own music, especially live, but it’s still pop and that’s what he’s really good at. His concerts are a blast and his stage presence is much more focused and energized when he’s doing his own thing. I’m sure he’s still feeling out his place in these Queen shows with regards to the band and the crowds. Adam may have been singing and performing most of his life but he’s still fairly new to the music industry and certainly to playing large venues on very large stages. It’s a different world. He's also on stage with QUEEN!! Hello!! He’s stated more than a few times that this is a huge opportunity and learning experience for him. I’m actually impressed and kind of blown away that he has taken this on at a crucial time in his own career. What’s he’s doing is extremely difficult and he’s doing it KNOWING that many fans have been ripping him apart even before the first concert. The dude has balls.


I know those of you who don’t like Adam with Queen (or Adam at all) each have your own reasons but I think I’ve picked up one thing that seems to be a universal issue. Adam certainly has the confidence (otherwise he wouldn’t even have attempted this) but he has no ego. By that I mean he doesn’t TRY to command the Queen stage in the way Freddie did or other great front men do and lets face it, a really good rock front man needs a bit of a cocky ego to ‘lead’ the band and grab the audience by the balls. The audience expects it. They WANT it. It’s part of the rock attitude. Part of it is that Adam is just too damn polite to try to take over the Queen stage. He realizes he’s not part of Queen, he’s a guest. Maybe that's why some of what he does seems "forced" or inauthentic (is that a word? lol) to some here. Adam loves being on stage and performing, he truly loves what he does. Like I said, the energy and performances are different when he’s running his own show..he’s total HBIC.. but even then he still eagerly shares the spotlight with his dancers and band. It’s just who he is and it’s probably partly due to his theater background. He has it in him to be a really great front man.. and who knows, maybe by the end of this run he’ll find his inner Freddie.. but he’s a solo act and that’s when he truly shines. HOWEVER, judging by the reaction and response of the crowds actually AT the shows, he’s KILLING it.


I have immense respect for Brian and Roger. At the end of the day, they're musicians and working with different people, creating new sounds, reviving old music, has GOT to be exciting for them as artists. They're lucky enough to be able to tour when/where they want with whomever they want. And right now they want Adam.


So thanks for letting me speak but I may or may not continue to post (I’m lurking tho ;) ). This forum is a little hard core for me. I can handle the discussions and I totally respect that not everyone likes the same things but I’ve seen some ugliness and complete disrespecttowards other posters here (and sadly to Brianand Roger as well) and that’s just not an energy I wantto jump in to. I'm not 'too old' but I'm old enough to not want to deal with it. ;) I’ll go back to twitter where it’s nicer. *insert sarcasm font* lmao.

I love Queen, Freddie,Brian,Roger and John were a one of a kind sensation.

Just seen the Adam lambert footage.......... simply dire im afraid.
Weak tired renditions of total classics.

Brian,Roger by all means do projects etc but bin the Queen+ rubbish, its not funny anymore :(

Chica63, hope you'll stick around. I thought the many contradictions you posted above are quite valid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ46L-aORDw
HE RUINED Show Must Go On. Just watch that. LAMBERT SUCKS period. No emotion, out of tune, annoying vibrato, he just sucks.

And yet, Brian May on his soapbox writes that he he has never received as many inspiring and encouraging messages in response to their concerts before.
Shoot me!

[QUOTE] [b]tigrlily wrote:[/b]
And yet, Brian May on his soapbox writes that he he has never received as many inspiring and encouraging messages in response to their concerts before.
Shoot me![/QUOTE]


Lol, sure. The majority of Real queen fans (people who liked queen before lambert) dont like him. Actually the majority dont want to see anyone try to front queen, as freddie cant be replaced.

Adam is a garbage, out of tune, oversinger, who has the worst vibrato iv ever heard

[QUOTE] [b]radiogugu wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]tigrlily wrote:[/b]
And yet, Brian May on his soapbox writes that he he has never received as many inspiring and encouraging messages in response to their concerts before.
Shoot me![/QUOTE]
Lol, sure. The majority of Real queen fans (people who liked queen before lambert) dont like him. Actually the majority dont want to see anyone try to front queen, as freddie cant be replaced.
Adam is a garbage, out of tune, oversinger, who has the worst vibrato iv ever heard[/QUOTE]

I wish Brian and Roger would hear what WE hear. Obviously they don't or if they do, they are after the bubble gum crowd. Or, their egos wouldn't allow them to admit it. Either way, it's a shame.

The videos I saw were even worse than expected. Lambert's voice is just grating and a poor fit. I give him credit for not choking. He hit all the notes, albeit with an atrocious goat-like vibrato, but that means very little. In fairness, Freddie comparisons are part of the problem since Freddie was the greatest white male singer of the modern era.
The reality (about this reality TV singer) is that his solo career is tanking and this just buys him fifteen more minutes. Brian and Roger are desperate to get America back. They act like lecherous old men chasing after 20-something chicks.

This episode along with many others will go down in Queen history as the "dark ages".

double post

[QUOTE] [b]Missreclusive wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]radiogugu wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]tigrlily wrote:[/b]
And yet, Brian May on his soapbox writes that he he has never received as many inspiring and encouraging messages in response to their concerts before.
Shoot me![/QUOTE]
Lol, sure. The majority of Real queen fans (people who liked queen before lambert) dont like him. Actually the majority dont want to see anyone try to front queen, as freddie cant be replaced.
Adam is a garbage, out of tune, oversinger, who has the worst vibrato iv ever heard[/QUOTE]
I wish Brian and Roger would hear what WE hear. Obviously they don't or if they do, they are after the bubble gum crowd. Or, their egos wouldn't allow them to admit it. Either way, it's a shame. [/QUOTE]
You two are two idiots.

But I guess it's natural that jerks think they own the band they like.

[QUOTE] [b]tigrlily wrote:[/b]
And yet, Brian May on his soapbox writes that he he has never received as many inspiring and encouraging messages in response to their concerts before.
Shoot me![/QUOTE]

While I'm sure many of the sentiments are genuine, it can't be forgotten how organized and determined Lambert's middle aged female fanbase is. They constantly bombard video views, polls, comment sections, etc. en masse and in coordinated and deliberate campaigns. Through multiple purchases of multiple copies of Tresspassing and massive gifting campaigns they got the album to number one. Of course that can't be sustained so it fell down the charts like a stone beginning week two and is currently at 137 I think in it's 7th week on the Billboard 200. Here's them trying to manipulate the UK Charts:

http://www.adamofficial.com/ca/node/2184694

And that is just one fan board. These efforts are echoed all over the internet at other boards and at a dedicated chart and sales manipulation site called adamlambertstorm.com. Fanaticism meets middle aged buying power as I've said. Nobody seems to stop and ask themselves if it's even ethical to take it to this degree. Anyway, all this to say that a coordinated Brian May email bomb can't be ruled out, along with the independent and spontaneous praise of the collaboration.

Honestly, the whole idea is horrible, Adam Lambert is horrible and that's expected as the gig is too big for him by a country mile. I just love the fact that the blind devotion of his supporters can't let them see that he is so, so, so far out his league that we get trolls saying that Adam can hit an F#29 v.2 and Freddie never could, therefore Adam is a better singer, and I guess we just don't love him here on QZ. He can sing. He can sing his songs well, I would guess as I've heard two of his songs and thought they were written by the same person who's been writing pop music for the last 15 years. However, he is abysmal singing for Queen. He is show biz, and not of the rock world. Bad, bad fit.